Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: But the point I was trying to make was more that of 'We get stopped and told we have to ask permission' while Goggle stick two fingers up and just carry on regardless. It is about time there was a level playing field, and just

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
John Smith wrote: --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: But the point I was trying to make was more that of 'We get stopped and told we have to ask permission' while Goggle stick two fingers up and just carry on regardless. It is about time there was a level playing

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-07-31 Thread Harald Kleiner
Hi! to make my question more precise, please have a look at this tunnel that crosses a railway track (the railway is a subway that runs at ground level): http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=48.1325961lon=16.3109488zoom=19way=29205957 The tunnel tag implies layer=-1 and that leads to a

Re: [OSM-talk] Google StreetView From Bikes

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: more inclusive than is necessary. So from my perspective they ARE intentionally going out of their way to invade privacy by showing views that are simply not normally visible? If we want to see what is over a wall we can now

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-07-31 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Harald Kleinere9625...@gmx.at wrote: Do you think, this tunnel is OK the way it is or should someone add a small piece of way on layer 0 at the eastern end next to the T-junction to avoid a T-junction of different layers? What is the situation at that

Re: [OSM-talk] Question about gps coordinates 001W0547 convert to -1.0547

2009-07-31 Thread Marc Coevoet
Frederik Ramm schreef: Hi Marc Coevoet wrote: 004E4800,47N2000 002W2300,57N 001W0547,51N4823 013E2600,47N3400 013E2600,47N3400 013E2600,47N3400 013E2600,47N3400 013E2500,47N3343 to something where 001W0547 becomes -1.0547 That can actually be done with sed on the Unix command

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
add a mode tag to see what the [[OSM Server Side Script]] is returning for each one: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=-33.87lon=151.21mode=raw in this case, the only state information seems to be in the Is_In tag on the city boundary On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:23 AM, John

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: add a mode tag to see what the [[OSM Server Side Script]] is returning for each one: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=-33.87lon=151.21mode=raw in this case, the only state information seems to be in the Is_In

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:16 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I also checked the Australian state borders and they are marked as admin_level=4;10 which may interfere with things if the script was only looking for a single number, however the boundary is used for local and state.

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Maarten Deen
OJ W wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:16 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I also checked the Australian state borders and they are marked as admin_level=4;10 which may interfere with things if the script was only looking for a single number, however the boundary is used for local

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Two boundary relations is also the way to map the Australian example. I actually merged boundaries because there was 2 slightly wrong ones and I made one correct one from them both. Using a relation for the state boundary

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Harald Kleinere9625...@gmx.at wrote: Hi! to make my question more precise, please have a look at this tunnel that crosses a railway track (the railway is a subway that runs at ground level):

Re: [OSM-talk] maxspeed tagging Was: Best-practice-idea traffic_sign

2009-07-31 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Thursday 30 July 2009 13:31:25, Maarten Deen dijo: I have never seen a different sign for mopeds, HGV's or vehicles with a caravan, it is always the maximum for all vehicles. http://www.joseramonmartinez.com/2005/11/25/senales-para-tanques/

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Roy Wallacewaldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Cartinuscarti...@xs4all.nl wrote: For three reasons: 1) In the part of my e-mail you did not quote I just pointed out lots of people don't read those definitions. The difference between

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:59:27 +0200, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Roy Wallacewaldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Cartinuscarti...@xs4all.nl wrote: For three reasons: 1) In the part of my e-mail you did not quote I just pointed out

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: No, you can only ASSUME that the current maxheight only use the legal form. Have you counted usages in countries where the physical maxheight are signed? Do you even know which countries such signs are available?

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-07-31 Thread Marc Schütz
to make my question more precise, please have a look at this tunnel that crosses a railway track (the railway is a subway that runs at ground level): http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=48.1325961lon=16.3109488zoom=19way=29205957 The tunnel tag implies layer=-1 No, it doesn't. and

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Marc Schütz
Wrong, osm2pgsql does process relations properly. If they aren't then Jon Burgess is happy to take a look to see if he can fix the problem with osm2pgsql. Second there has been no planet reload for a few weeks now. There's definitely something wrong here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jon Burgess
2009/7/31 Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net: Wrong, osm2pgsql does process relations properly. If they aren't then Jon Burgess is happy to take a look to see if he can fix the problem with osm2pgsql. Second there has been no planet reload for a few weeks now. There's definitely something wrong

Re: [OSM-talk] maxspeed tagging Was: Best-practice-idea traffic_sign

2009-07-31 Thread Tobias Knerr
John Smith wrote: It's basically there to decide whether to use colons as in your example or switch to something like maxspeed[wet][forward][motorcycle]. Why? Well, because those time conditions tend to have colons in You split based on the equal sign and it doesn't matter that the time

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Marc Schütz
The building called Angewandte Informatik is a multipolygon, which has been moved one and a half weeks ago. Both the old and the new shape are rendered now, and the hole is filled too. I know that there have been problems with multipolygons and diffs. Are they supposed to be fixed?

Re: [OSM-talk] Question about gps coordinates 001W0547 convert to -1.0547

2009-07-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Marc Coevoet wrote: Nice, I was thinking about looking for my shell prog book, and trying awk some manips on the degrees and minutes, as there is no number 59 In that case I'd use a famous write-only language and do something like % perl -ne

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
...or locally-maintained rural roads that are important for local navigation, such as connecting a shortcut between two nearby highways which don't intersect. I'm happy that there seems (until now, few contribution in this thread) a consensus on the proposed modification of the basic

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com writes: --- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: it's a different meaning in urban areas as in rural areas. Many of what you tag as primary and secondary in rural areas (especially low density ones) has 2 (1+1) lanes, while

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: were that important it probably would be bigger.  If you are about #lanes, there's a lanes tag for that. Does any renders currently use the number of lanes to vary the outputted images, or should this be something submitted as a wish

[OSM-talk] England's coastal path

2009-07-31 Thread Frankie Roberto
This is possibly a bit off-topic, but I'm looking forward to being able to map the new long-distance continuous coastal path around England, which is being proposed via the Marine and Coastal Access Bill! Natural England (the agency that will be responsible for building the paths) have just

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: - residential roads (just in residential areas, no connecting function, you will not take this if you don't live in the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: No, no, no. maxheight until now was clearly the legal maxheight. It is not explicitely writen on the wiki because you don't see the physical height in many countries here in Europe but only the legal traffic sign and the max height traffic sign is displayed

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org: No, no, no. maxheight until now was clearly the legal maxheight. It is not explicitely writen on the wiki because you don't see the physical height in many countries here in Europe but only the legal traffic sign and the max height

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: someone with interest in this topic could set up a page for maxheight:physical, so this discussion doesn't get lost: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Key:maxheight:physicalaction=editredlink=1 cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Please check your 42 occurrences, whether they are physical or legal and this issue would be resolved. Some of us are in Australia and there will only be one sign posted in Australia which is the legal height, but the

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just see it as a hierarchical line: residential unclassified tert sec prim trunk motorway it's simple as that, and I don't see any problem. Maybe to you, but I don't see it that way based on reading the

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: I object to the notion that there should be a different relationship between residential/unclassified in urban vs rural areas.  We already have too much of that, and I think it's a sign our definitions are off base.  There's no clear boundary, and we have

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
David Lynch djly...@gmail.com writes: Motorway: More than one grade-separated intersection in a row, high speed, oncoming traffic separated. A Motorway should meet the physical standards of what the best national Motorway/Interstate/etc. roads are. Generally entirely divided and limited

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: Some of us are in Australia and there will only be one sign posted in Australia which is the legal height, but the person you are responding to is in Brazil and you said none for South America so that answers that I guess. there were no

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just see it as a hierarchical line: residential unclassified tert sec prim trunk motorway it's simple as that, and I don't see any problem. Maybe to you, but I

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know where you are mapping and which streets you are mapping Sorry, I was thinking of the Australian guidelines... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Roads_Tagging Well, I'm in Italy but occasionally

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just see it as a hierarchical line: residential unclassified tert sec prim trunk motorway it's simple as

[OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread Hillsman, Edward
Some of the areas where I am mapping show untagged green nodes in Potlatch, and I delete these, but where do they come from? In one case, I think a series of them may have been generated when my computer lost the connection to the OSM server while I was tracing a way, and then could not restore

[OSM-talk] Promoting mini-map event

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
I'm currently trying to do up a flier to promote a mini-map event, and I wondering if I would be able to use a couple of images from SteveC's key note talk? Specifically the 20 live 20 minutes from somewhere example given. Those images were really striking in showing the benefits that can be

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: So probably the renderers need a way to show unclassified as less important than tertiary. they (t...@h, mapnik, cyclemap) are already doing this. And perhaps 'residential' should be redefined as only used by people who are traveling to a location on

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread Hillsman, Edward
Hi Martin, Thanks for the suggestion. I have not tried JOSM yet, but mean to, and this is another reason for me to move that up my list of things to do. For the student projects, I'll leave the choice up to them at this stage. But my real reason in writing was to be able to answer a question

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: So probably the renderers need a way to show unclassified as less important than tertiary. they (t...@h, mapnik, cyclemap) are already doing this. Sorry, I meant 'lower than tertiary and more

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: In that case we need a parallel tag to unclassified, meaning local-only but without the residential notion.  But around me there aren't enough such roads to worry about, and they're all tagged residential from massgis import anyway :-) well. Propose what

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: did you give JOSM a try? It doesn't suffer from partly loaded data, which might be the issue in your case. I doubt that very much indeed. Potlatch can't load a way without loading its constituent nodes; nor can it find a node which is part of a way without loading

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Mann
I saw some strange rendering effects when a side road was straight onto a bridge. The bridge was layer=1, so the side road was rendered on top of the main road. That's why all the ways approaching a junction should be on the same layer. You can either achieve this by inserting a short way between

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Simon
2009/7/31 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: I don't know where you are mapping and which streets you are mapping as residential. Maybe you could post an example so I can try to understand you better. The English page for residential states:

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread SLXViper
Hillsman, Edward wrote: Some of the areas where I am mapping show untagged green nodes in Potlatch, and I delete these, but where do they come from? Those untagged nodes sometimes show up quite a lot, depending on the area. In one case there were a lot of untagged nodes along a way, each very

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Matthias Versen
John Smith wrote: I also checked the Australian state borders and they are marked as admin_level=4;10 which may interfere with things if the script was only looking for a single number, however the boundary is used for local and state. We usually Tag only the highest (1=highest) admin_level

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: 2009/7/31 Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net: Wrong, osm2pgsql does process relations properly. If they aren't then Jon Burgess is happy to take a look to see if he can fix the problem with osm2pgsql. Second there has been no planet reload for a few weeks now. There's definitely

Re: [OSM-talk] Question about gps coordinates 001W0547 convert to -1.0547

2009-07-31 Thread Marc Coevoet
Frederik Ramm schreef: Hi, Marc Coevoet wrote: Nice, I was thinking about looking for my shell prog book, and trying awk some manips on the degrees and minutes, as there is no number 59 In that case I'd use a famous write-only language and do something like % perl -ne

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Roland Olbricht
Does the script also take boundaries in relations into account? I'm a little puzzled by http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=42.8145lon=20.365 which is inside Kosovo with two relations as border, #1057;#1088;#1073;#1080;#1112;#1072;, admin_level 2, which is seen and Kosovo,

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Mann
Sometimes it's physical, sometimes administrative. Generally it's administrative where that is clearly defined (ie the higher road classes in developed countries), and more physical when it isn't. So saying either is correct wouldn't be entirely true. Richard On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:16 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com: 2009/7/31 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: This tag is used for roads accessing or around residential areas but which are not a classified or unclassified highway. This is a useful guideline if you are not sure whether to use residential

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
OJ W wrote: I put a wrapper around the rather excellent http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Server_Side_Script which can tell you which town/county/state/country something is in: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.51lon=-0.05 - which replies that the specified

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: Sometimes it's physical, sometimes administrative. Generally it's administrative where that is clearly defined (ie the higher road classes in developed countries), and more physical when it isn't. So saying either is correct

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: did you give JOSM a try? It doesn't suffer from partly loaded data, which might be the issue in your case. I doubt that very much indeed. Potlatch can't load a way without loading its constituent nodes; nor can it

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Roland Olbricht
Dear OJ, I put a wrapper around the rather excellent http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Server_Side_Script which can tell you which town/county/state/country something is in: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.51lon=-0.05 - which replies that the specified numbers

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread David Lynch
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 23:40, Cartinuscarti...@xs4all.nl wrote: 3) The people who do not care/know about the difference are still going to tag a physical maxheight with the maxheight tag. Agreed. In countries where there are separate signs for a warning about the physical height of an object

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/7/30 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com: I put a wrapper around the rather excellent http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Server_Side_Script which can tell you which town/county/state/country something is in: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.51lon=-0.05  - which

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
that would be a lack of disk space on dev's /home - I'll see if it's anything of mine that I can delete On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Roland Olbrichtroland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: After some playing around, I get some error messages with

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
should be working again now? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website) - localised

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.8478lon=9.0282lang=es http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.8478lon=9.0282lang=de http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.8478lon=9.0282lang=nl ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
Jonas Häggqvist wrote: However, it seems not to work as expected - in fact it breaks the service quite horrifically: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=56.0366lon=12.514 Okay, it no longer breaks - it just doesn't list the point as being in Helsingør (rel#184034). -- Jonas

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: might be, that I didn't understand exactly how this error is caused, but it definitely is a Potlatch-error. Also I can tell you that I was quite pleased to see the recent progress of potlatch. It also has some cool unique features (like undelete). It is stylish. It

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Dermot McNally
2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: But, as I understand trunk, it's meant to be a physical upgrade from primary, which is a national-level highway. Well, you could argue that it would be valid to adopt this standard in a country where it was deemed useful. But that's not how it is here.

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com: 2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: Well, you could argue that it would be valid to adopt this standard in a country where it was deemed useful. But that's not how it is here. Ireland has two grades of National road, primary and secondary

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Dermot McNally
2009/7/31 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: This is exactly my point. The highway class already represents the importance of the road, not it's physical build standard, but the wiki defines the latter to be relevant. I was suggesting to update the definition according to

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread OJ W
for some reason my javascript isn't working so well - anyone want to try and make this more reliable? http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/PlaceBrowser/?lat=51.51lon=-0.12zoom=14 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Liz
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote, replying to Martin Koppenhoefer: Well, I just see it as a hierarchical line: residential unclassified tert sec prim trunk motorway it's simple as that, and I don't see any problem. Maybe to you, but I don't see it that way based on

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Martin mentions http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Residential The history for this shows that was written after we wrote our Australian tagging guidelines - nearly a year later. yes, this page is indeed dating back just to April 2008, what means, there has

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Yann Coupin
Works great for me, what would you like to enhance/correct ? Le 31 juil. 09 à 23:12, OJ W a écrit : for some reason my javascript isn't working so well - anyone want to try and make this more reliable? http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/PlaceBrowser/?lat=51.51lon=-0.12zoom=14

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Le vendredi 31 juillet 2009 à 03:23, Roy Wallace a écrit : What about a way that has either a physical limitation or a legal limitation (not both). Perhaps there is some argument that the tag should differentiate between these situations? Though I admit I can only think of a weak one - that it

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com: Le vendredi 31 juillet 2009 à 03:23, Roy Wallace a écrit : What about a way that has either a physical limitation or a legal limitation (not both). Perhaps there is some argument that the tag should differentiate between these situations? Though

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:36 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: Done. See: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2118 I add add tickets for the other two issues I referred to later today. Thanks! As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another instance of nodes missing from the

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:36 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: Done. See: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2118 I add add tickets for the other two issues I referred to later today. Thanks! As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another instance of nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:36 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: Done. See: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2118 I add add tickets for the other two issues I referred to later today. Thanks! As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another instance of nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Tom Hughes
On 31/07/09 23:55, Andrew Ayre wrote: I think if the OSM API was improved so it could accept large changesets faster then that would greatly help out the people who are trying to add large amounts of data. So far I haven't see a fast and reliable method. Excuse me a minute while I find my

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread James Livingston
On 01/08/2009, at 1:36 AM, SLXViper wrote: Those untagged nodes sometimes show up quite a lot, depending on the area. In one case there were a lot of untagged nodes along a way, each very close to another node belonging to the way. All untagged ones were created by a potlatch user, I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Matthias Versen
Jonas Häggqvist wrote: However, it seems not to work as expected - in fact it breaks the service quite horrifically: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=56.0366lon=12.514 Okay, it no longer breaks - it just doesn't list the point as being in Helsingør (rel#184034). I fixed

[OSM-talk] Photos

2009-07-31 Thread Tristan Thomas
Is there any method of adding photos etc. to OSM like there is for Google Maps. For instance, if you navigate to somewhere on Google Maps, it comes up with user submitted geo-tagged photos. Is there anything similar for OSM? If not, should there be? Regards

Re: [OSM-talk] Photos

2009-07-31 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Tristan Thomas wrote: Is there any method of adding photos etc. to OSM like there is for Google Maps. For instance, if you navigate to somewhere on Google Maps, it comes up with user submitted geo-tagged photos. Is there anything similar for OSM? If not, should there

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-31 Thread Andrew Ayre
Tom Hughes wrote: On 31/07/09 23:55, Andrew Ayre wrote: I think if the OSM API was improved so it could accept large changesets faster then that would greatly help out the people who are trying to add large amounts of data. So far I haven't see a fast and reliable method. Excuse me a

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Matthias Versen s...@mversen.de wrote: We usually Tag only the highest (1=highest) admin_level on a border in Germany because an admin_level=2 (country) border is always the same border for the lower admin_levels. The different admin_levels have of course always

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: areas, that's why your aussie-way might produce slightly worse routing results (don't know, just an idea). The navit routing engine prefers residential to tertiary in some cases... So not all poor routing is because we

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Matthias Versen s...@mversen.de wrote: I also checked the Australian state borders and they are marked as admin_level=4;10 which may interfere with things if the script was only looking for a single number, however the boundary is used for local and state. We

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Matthias Versen
OJ W wrote: I put a wrapper around the rather excellent http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Server_Side_Script which can tell you which town/county/state/country something is in: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.51lon=-0.05 There is really something broken, compare :

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-07-31 Thread Matthias Versen
John Smith wrote: I've redone all the admin_levels=4 like you suggested, however I'm not sure if the NSW/ACT state borders are correct and would like a second opinion or third on this. This is the relation for the NSW state border. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/80372

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Clearance

2009-07-31 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:33:53 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: Some of us are in Australia and there will only be one sign posted in Australia which is the legal height, but the person you are responding to is in Brazil and

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Accurimbono
Il giorno 31 luglio 2009 08.56, Accurimbonoaccurimb...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Anch'io ce l'ho quel navigatore ma non l'ho mai utilizzato, in ogni caso non credo che utilizzi il db di metanoauto.it .com, scusate :) ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Matteo Gottardi
In data giovedì 30 luglio 2009 20:00:41, Gianmario Mengozzi ha scritto: : allora, sul sito [1] i dati dei distributori di metano (x ora considererei quelli italiani) sono disponibili in formato 1) .asc 2) .cvs 3) .gpx i file contengono apparentemente a) indirizzo (prov, comune, frazione,

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Matteo Gottardi
In data venerdì 31 luglio 2009 09:15:54, Matteo Gottardi ha scritto: Intanto provo a fare uno scriptino che converta il gpx ottenuto da metanoauto in osm. Premetto che non ho _nessuna_ esperienza riguardo all'import massivo di dati... La mia idea era di fare l'import iniziale a mano con josm

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Marco Certelli
Ciao, Queche commento a ruota libera: Hai verificato che le coordinate siano WGS84? Ma il nome del distributore (che poi è quello che appare sulla mappa) non sarebbe meglio che fosse AGIP, ESSO, etc? Ti sembra utile leggere LT FONDI VIA SANTA ANASTASIA (SP102, KM 0,400) - LOC. Lapos;ISOLA.

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Elena of Valhalla
2009/7/31 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: Ma il nome del distributore (che poi è quello che appare sulla mappa) non sarebbe meglio che fosse AGIP, ESSO, etc? Ti sembra utile leggere LT FONDI VIA SANTA ANASTASIA (SP102, KM 0,400) - LOC. Lapos;ISOLA. immagino che nel name andrebbe solo

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Matteo Gottardi
In data venerdì 31 luglio 2009 13:46:01, Marco Certelli ha scritto: Ciao, Queche commento a ruota libera: Hai verificato che le coordinate siano WGS84? In realta' mi sono principalmente fidato del file di metanoauto.com (secondo lo standard gpx tutte le coordinate devono essere wgs84).

[Talk-it] R: svincoli dalla crt

2009-07-31 Thread Marco Certelli
--- Ven 31/7/09, Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com Oggetto: [Talk-it] svincoli dalla crt A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Data: Venerdì 31 luglio 2009, 14:54 Faccio notare che la precisione degli svincoli dalla crt è molto

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/7/31 Matteo Gottardi matg...@tin.it: Purtroppo il gestore non e' specificato nel file gpx di www.metanoauto.com, e' una serie di record strutturati cosi': Quello che mi sembra manchi è un identificativo univoco del distributore all'interno di metanoauto. Se ci fosse sarebbe più comodo

Re: [Talk-it] R: svincoli dalla crt

2009-07-31 Thread Ruggero
Il giorno 31 luglio 2009 15.10, Marco Certellimarco_certe...@yahoo.it ha scritto: --- Ven 31/7/09, Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com Oggetto: [Talk-it] svincoli dalla crt A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Data: Venerdì 31 luglio

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/31 Marco Certelli marco_certe...@yahoo.it: secondo me il name di metanoauto, che potrebbe andare in un tag OSM tipo metanoauto:name=... è un identificativo univoco che può servire per ritrovare il distributore e verificare necessità di aggiornamento. purtroppo anche i nomi possono (e

Re: [Talk-it] I:Re: richiesta autorizzazione importazione dati elenco distributori in OpenStreetMap.org

2009-07-31 Thread luca menini
Il giorno 31 luglio 2009 08.54, Accurimbonoaccurimb...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Ti assicuro che il database è super aggiornato, nel senso che esiste già ed è molto utilizzata la funzione per segnalare aggiornamenti/errori/modifiche (prezzo carburanti, apertura/chiusura, segnalazione nuovi

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