[OSM-talk-be] OSM Forêt de Soignes / Zoniënwo ud

2009-08-09 Thread Pierre Parmentier
I would like to join my efforts to complete the map of the Forêt de Soignes / Zoniënwoud. Is there a Belgian standard for the various highway tags applicable for wooden areas, forests, etc.? I see track, pedestrian, footway, cycleway and the rendering shows different symbols for the same type of

[OSM-talk] Odd rendering at 0,0

2009-08-09 Thread Steve Hill
I noticed that there seems to be something odd with the rendering at lat=0, lon=0: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0lon=0zoom=14layers=B000FTF At zoom 14 it tells me that it is the North Pole... Zoom in a bit mnore and you get a bunch of parking spaces. Both Mapnik and Osmarender seem to

Re: [OSM-talk] Odd rendering at 0,0

2009-08-09 Thread Shaun McDonald
This has been discussed before on this list. See thread: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-June/037891.html And the dev list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-May/015566.html Shaun On 9 Aug 2009, at 09:57, Steve Hill wrote: I noticed that there seems to be

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin and I have had this conversation on private e-mail too, but one point bears repeating: I know that some people like this tidy-points-function to work on TIGER-Data, but I tell you: if the TIGER-Data is not good/precise, it won't get better using this function ;-) That is evidently

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Austin Martin wrote: Also, does OSM need a collective icon set, because by looking at this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features. It seems like just a random mishmash of icons, but maybe I'm wrong on this. OSM is about the data, it's up to individual clients to decide what icons

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Turn on the Yahoo imagery, align the start and end points of the way, and select the 'Tidy' function. Hey presto, the street is now correctly aligned to the grid. You could have done this manually, but it would have taken 10 times as long and

[OSM-talk] Crazy routing in OpenRouteService

2009-08-09 Thread Steve Hill
A recent purchase of an Android phone has lead me to play with AndNav2 and OpenRouteService. However, in some cases I get some unexpectedly crazy routes. OpenRouteService doesn't seem to understand the highway=road tag. So presumably if your destination is on a highway=road, it should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Crazy routing in OpenRouteService

2009-08-09 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Steve Hill wrote: Moving the destination slightly closer to another road causes sanity to be resumed. I misread sanity as salinity and wondered which ocean he was visiting next ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan de Konink wrote: And then you realise that the alignment of Yahoo Imagery is wrong on most places, and you have killed good vector material. Great job :) Good vector material? Tell me, have you ever _seen_ TIGER? Seriously, you're kidding me. Yahoo may be out-of-alignment here and

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Richard Fairhurst wrote: _That_ is why this function is here: to simplify the work of one of the most tedious parts of TIGER fixup. As always, it's of no use for my mapping should not be extrapolated to it's of no use and should be banned. But maybe in those parts of the world where streets

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: And then you realise that the alignment of Yahoo Imagery is wrong on most places, and you have killed good vector material. Great job :) Good vector material? Tell me, have you ever _seen_ TIGER? Yes, and I have also

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tobias Knerr wrote: But maybe in those parts of the world where streets are not perfectly straight, it is of no use and even dangerous in the hands of newbies should be extrapolated to it should not be included by default but provided by a plugin/option? Hm. I can think of plenty of towns

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: And then you realise that the alignment of Yahoo Imagery is wrong on most places, and you have killed good vector material. Great job :) Good

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Most likely this is true because the TIGER dataset was actually traced from/for a much lower precision map, hence wavy because you are plotting it on a far higher resolution then it was created for. With respect to TIGER you

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: Assuming that yahoo is wrong, at least it will be consistently wrong and it's trivially to mass move ways when you do get reference points to re-align the data to. Moving stuff in GIS is never trivial. You don't know why it is wrong, and even if it looks

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: How does your town compare to Yahoo? It seems to have an offset in both X and Y. But I can only see that locally. I don't know if there is a more global problem. I have only heard of trival shifts in the rectification being a problem. I think it

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Marc Schütz
Am Samstag 08 August 2009 14:42:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: An example from the result of the current tidy-points-function here: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/attachment/ticket/2148/090808_potlatch_tidy-p oints_.png In this case it looks more like an error of the tidy-function, or at least

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Moving stuff in GIS is never trivial. You don't know why it is wrong, and even if it looks 'locally' shifted it could be even misrectified causing it to be shifted and streched possibly rotated. You get 4 or more points on the

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/9 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: As I've said several times to Martin, once I have a spare minute I'll add some sort of confirmation dialogue if you try to straighten a street with more than n metres divergence. But for now, I'm off on holiday. Actually those confirmation

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-09 Thread Brian Quinion
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Austin Martin wrote: Also, does OSM need a collective icon set, because by looking at this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features. It seems like just a random mishmash of icons, but maybe I'm wrong on this.

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/9 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: Assuming that yahoo is wrong, at least it will be consistently wrong and it's trivially to mass move ways when you do get reference points to re-align the data to. no, unfortunately according to my gps-traces and knowledge of the actual situation

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-09 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 09 August 2009 01:29:27 John Smith wrote: What about Uranium mining areas? Australia just announced they were going to let 2 more mines start. landuse=surface_mining mining_resource=uranium name=* operator=* and a bit further out barrier=fence Since you are probably not allowed

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: Since you are probably not allowed to go inside that fence, you can't know where the radioactive areas are. Don't know if the mining area would be much higher than background, but the mined ore is transported to a processing facility,

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: You get 4 or more points on the ground by GPS and you align to that, I meant suburb level, not an entire city or states or countries. Already saw an OSM editor supporting realigning Yahoo Imagery based on existing points? Stefan

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Already saw an OSM editor supporting realigning Yahoo Imagery based on existing points? Not automatically, but JOSM can shift the yahoo image to align it to known points then you just move nodes/ways as needed.

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-09 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 09 August 2009 14:57:46 John Smith wrote: --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: Since you are probably not allowed to go inside that fence, you can't know where the radioactive areas are. Don't know if the mining area would be much higher than background, but

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: The reasoning stays the same. Dangerous industrial/mining activity tends to be fenced in to prevent accidents. I don't see why radioactivity needs any special handling compared to other dangerous activities like: I wasn't asking

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-09 Thread OJ W
isn't the issue here that radioactivity is like height, i.e. a smoothly-varying value that exists everywhere and is typically represented as gridded data (which gets converted to contours for display). with height, people said that the grid data was unsuitable for going into OSM because OSM is

Re: [OSM-talk] Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-09 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:29:23PM +0200, Michael Kugelmann wrote: looking at the foundation web site and the wiki, there is very few information on the local chapter working group - only a draft of the federation agreement is linked withought an information on the version or date it

[OSM-talk] Silly me

2009-08-09 Thread Ed Loach
I had to pick up an eBay purchase in Haverhill (Suffolk, UK) today and relied on my Suffolk street atlas to get me there. Unfortunately the place the seller lived wasn't listed. They lived in ** Walk, and being a Walk this generally leads between two streets that cars can access. So their

Re: [OSM-talk] Silly me

2009-08-09 Thread OJ W
they must have known - living in a place like that you soon get used to explaining no, your address lookup won't work or don't bother asking me for my postcode, you won't find it whenever someone asks for your address. I seem to remember some banks won't let you open accounts if your road isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking and Access

2009-08-09 Thread Peter Körner
Roy Wallace schrieb: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Kevo...@kevswindells.eu wrote: Hi All, While trying (and failing miserably) to find a parking space in Birmingham (UK) the other day (terrible sign age - talk about leaving it to the last minute - AND to top it all I must have parked in

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-09 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Cartinus wrote: What about Uranium mining areas? Australia just announced they were going to let 2 more mines start. landuse=surface_mining mining_resource=uranium name=* operator=* and a bit further out barrier=fence Since you are probably not allowed to go

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Nop
Hi! Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: I want to point attention to the potlatch-funtion tidy-points (similar to JOSM simplify way). I encourage everybody not to use these functions (at least not on data someone else entered) as it harms severly the data. First of all, I agree with you that these

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automa tic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Liz
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Nop wrote: Some people mentioned that the default settings of these tools are very agressive - this is true and a more lenient approach might produce much better results. But then, I have not seen any options to change this (in JOSM). It was in advanced preferences. Can't

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Some people mentioned that the default settings of these tools are very agressive - this is true and a more lenient approach might produce much better results. But then, I have not seen any options to change this (in JOSM). I think you can change the presets in Einstein-mode. cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/9 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Already saw an OSM editor supporting realigning Yahoo Imagery based on existing points? Not automatically, but JOSM can shift the yahoo image to align it to known points then you just

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/9 Liz ed...@billiau.net: I concur I found about 350 -400 km of highway uploaded (twice) with points at one per second at 100kmh travel speed Once uploaded and made into a way, and then the way deleted without removing the points, then uploaded again and while we have editors that

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-09 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Liz wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Nop wrote: Some people mentioned that the default settings of these tools are very agressive - this is true and a more lenient approach might produce much better results. But then, I have not seen any options to change this

[OSM-talk] Building floor plans

2009-08-09 Thread noh way jose
Just an idea. Issues: Multiple, presumably high resolution, maps overlaying the same space. One per floor. How to get unencumbered by copyright floor plans Opportunities: Hospitals, College, Government, public or business buildings Has this been done/suggested yet? Cheers -- Greg

Re: [OSM-talk] Building floor plans

2009-08-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, noh way jose wrote: Has this been done/suggested yet? I know it is been discussed, but it is only limited by your client. A client should be able to do something like Xapi, selecting only a specific layer, with dynamic filtering. This would be great for all other sorts of

Re: [OSM-talk] Building floor plans

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, noh way jose noh.way.j...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: Has this been done/suggested yet? I suggested something similar to the talk-au list, I even mailed the contact address on the website of major shopping centre operators but they never replied.

[OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-09 Thread Mike N.
I'm using netbook with just your average $30 GPS dongle to collect data. Today I took a 5 mile out-and back hike under dense forest canopy. The GPX traces for the same trail out and back are separated by as much as 100 meters. I didn't record PDOP information and such, but are there any

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS Accuracy under Forest Canopy

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:    I didn't record PDOP information and such, but are there any solutions to record decent GPS traces on trails under forest canopy data collection other than a high end professional GPS datalogger? If a phone network and the phone

[Talk-in] OSM Mapping party

2009-08-09 Thread Pradeep B V
Hiya all, Thanks for making it to the mapping party. (Sameer please pass this mail to Abhinav too). It was definitely fun mapping eCity with you all today. The GPX files have been uploaded and and can be seen here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Pradeep%20B%20V/traces/473720 and

Re: [Talk-in] OSM Mapping party

2009-08-09 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
Hello all, It was nice mapping around E City.I have added post event summary herehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Electronics_City_Mini_Mapping_Party_August_2009#Post_Event_Summary. The difference we made todayhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Bangalore_ECity_09Aug2009_Mapping_Party.png.

Re: [Talk-it] Uso del BT747

2009-08-09 Thread luca menini
Il giorno 19 luglio 2009 22.57, Alessandro Pozzatoapozz...@libero.it ha scritto: Stamattina mi sono guardato con molta calma una descrizione del BT747 e alla fine mi sembra di essere (parlando piano...) sulla buona strada. Com'e' andata a finire poi? Non ci hai piu' informati ... :-) luca --

[Talk-it] Organizzare un Talk all' End Summer Camp 2009

2009-08-09 Thread giar...@blu.it
Ciao! A fine agosto si svolgerà l'ESC, un evento molto interessante vicino Venezia. Ci saranno molti TalksSeminari su vari argomenti soprattutto inerenti al Software libero. Che ne dite di organizzare un Talk su OpenStreetMap??? E' una bella occasione per parlare di osm e diffondere il

Re: [Talk-it] geological=paleontological_site OPPUREnatural=paleontological_site

2009-08-09 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
nono, non mi sono spiegato bene, basta una proposta con una chiave/valore. Oramai è deciso per natural (o sbaglio?), quindi lasciamo perdere... ciao, Martin Ciao Martin, beh al momento la chiave natural=* e' ancora draft ma anche

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri CAI

2009-08-09 Thread Gian Paolo
Ciao a tutti, vorrei avere qualche consiglio su come correggere degli errori che a mio parere sono stati introdotti con una importazione di un sentiero CAI: nei tratti in comune con strade di altro tipo sono stati aggiunti operator=CAI Siena e ref=113 (mi sono accorto del problema vedendo il

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri CAI

2009-08-09 Thread Stefano Salvador
vorrei avere qualche consiglio su come correggere degli errori che a mio parere sono stati introdotti con una importazione di un sentiero CAI: nei tratti in comune con strade di altro tipo sono stati aggiunti operator=CAI Siena e ref=113 (mi sono accorto del problema vedendo il numero

Re: [Talk-it] nomi di città che scompaiono

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/9 brunetto brunetto.zi...@gmail.com: ciao a tutti! mi è capitato qualche volta che per alcune città/paesi il nome scompaia in alcuni livelli di zoom per poi ricomparire... ad esempio feltre ogni tanto se ne va... è normale? diciamo sta ancora sviluppando... Fino poco tempo fa, anche

Re: [Talk-it] Organizzare un Talk all' End Summer Camp 2009

2009-08-09 Thread Simone Cortesi
2009/8/9 giar...@blu.it giar...@blu.it: Ciao! A fine agosto si svolgerà l'ESC, un evento molto interessante vicino Venezia. Ci saranno molti TalksSeminari su vari argomenti soprattutto inerenti al Software libero. Che ne dite di organizzare un Talk su OpenStreetMap??? io ci sono... -S

Re: [Talk-transit] NAPTAN Import: Plus-bus Zones

2009-08-09 Thread Chris Morley
Roger Slevin wrote: The PlusBus zone data comes from PlusBus – so please don’t try to change it. If you think it is wrong, then let me know and I will ask PlusBus to review the information. The Wrexham and Ruabon PlusBus zone has been imported without any reference to Wrexham (the more

Re: [Talk-transit] Wiki cleanup

2009-08-09 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 12:37:11PM +0100, Peter Miller wrote: We need a decision on the 'Public Transport' vs 'Transit' question. Which term should we use on the wiki because I don't want a muddle. I note that the article on Wikipedia is called 'Public transport', with 'mass transit' and

Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter

2009-08-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Jochen Toph (of Germany) updated the wiki page on Local Chapters: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters It contains more info especially on the meeting that took place at SOTM 2009. So it seems that the draft agreement between OSMF and local chapters is *far* from

[OSM-talk-nl] noord-zuid lijn

2009-08-09 Thread Rejo Zenger
Hi, Zie http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=34611587. Volgens mij is dat de Noord-Zuid lijn van de metro die in aanbouw is in Amsterdam. Is nu tagged met enkel een railroad:construction, in ieder geval op sommige plaatsen. Is dat alles dat er moet zijn? Hoe gaan we om met de layer informatie

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] noord-zuid lijn

2009-08-09 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 09/08/09 10:44 +0200 - Maarten Deen: Hoe gaan we om met de layer informatie voor dat ding? Het is immers in ondergronds, maar er is op zat plekken bovengronds ook van alles gaande. Ik zou zeggen dat op veel plaatsen layer:0 correct is. Wat doen je dan met de kruisingen? Dat zijn geen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] noord-zuid lijn

2009-08-09 Thread Maarten Deen
Rejo Zenger wrote: ++ 09/08/09 10:44 +0200 - Maarten Deen: Hoe gaan we om met de layer informatie voor dat ding? Het is immers in ondergronds, maar er is op zat plekken bovengronds ook van alles gaande. Ik zou zeggen dat op veel plaatsen layer:0 correct is. Wat doen je dan met de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 2de Amsterdamse Mappers Babbel

2009-08-09 Thread Roeland Douma
Hij staat genoteerd! Heb er weer zin in :) On Tuesday 07 July 2009 09:56:40 Rejo Zenger wrote: Hi, Na het succes van de 1ste Amsterdamse OSM Babbel heb ik alvast maar de datum geprikt voor de volgende babbel: donderdag 10 september 2009, om 20:00 uur. De locatie is De Bekeerde Suster, aan de

Re: [talk-au] amenity=shelter

2009-08-09 Thread Ashley Kyd
Thanks all for the input. I was just double checking because it turns out I've been using the shelter property pretty loosely. I've got a number of them scattered around the place which I've probably mistagged as a result. I'll have to go back through my edits and see if I can fix them up. _

[talk-au] Javascript map api abstraction thingy

2009-08-09 Thread Jim Croft
Did I miss this on this list? any Oz implementations? http://mapstraction.com/ with osm support and demo: http://mapstraction.com/demo.php?map=openstreetmap jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft ... in pursuit of

Re: [talk-au] Javascript map api abstraction thingy

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: Did I miss this on this list?  any Oz implementations? OpenLayers can do that too I think. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-09 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. 2009/8/8 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Can someone marking in these cycle paths comment on if there is common widths or what width would people deem to be a footway, cycleway, bridleway, etc? For me the important point is whether you can cycle on the path or not. For the purposes

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-09 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Lized...@billiau.net wrote: i think we should mark highway=cycleway where it is a cycleway What is a cycleway? Is it defined in a verifiable way? i accept that highway=path could be subdivided into everything but to me path is primarily foot use first This is

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: A normal road: bicycle=unspecified or no As I said, I don't cycle much so I'm just trying to think through the possibilities, if you're looking for a primary purpose maybe that's how to look at this. To play devils advocate here

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: What is a cycleway? Is it defined in a verifiable way? Yes they have signs up with pictures of bicycles. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Cycleway/footway/path

2009-08-09 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sun, 9/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: What is a cycleway? Is it defined in a verifiable way? Yes they have signs up with pictures of bicycles. So you seem to be suggesting: 1. for a way signed

[talk-au] For those organising mapping parties...

2009-08-09 Thread John Smith
I've had a couple of nibbles from posting an event on Geocaching.com, and even if they don't turn up they become aware of OSM's existence. I've had no feed back from the emails I sent to 4wd/bushwalking/computer groups. http://coord.info/GC1WAGA

[Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tag vs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Gernot Hillier
Guten Morgen! Seit einiger Zeit erfassen wir in Landshut auch Hausnummern nach dem Karlsruhe-Schema (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema). Auf der Wiki-Seite steht ja recht klar, dass es dem Mapper überlassen bleibt, ob er jetzt das

Re: [Talk-de] 30km/h - Anlieger frei

2009-08-09 Thread Andreas Pothe
Johann H. Addicks: Selbst wenn da noch das 250er drüber hinge, eine merkwürdige Kombination: http://www.addicks.net/gallery/bizar/P8080188 Erinnert mich an die ähnliche Kombination aus Österreich: 30 mit Zusatzschild ausgenommen Alois http://www.witzbild.de/lustig70.htm CU Andreas

Re: [Talk-de] copyright

2009-08-09 Thread SLXViper
Karl Eichwalder schrieb: Übrigens sind viele fußgängerzonen nur von mo-sa von 10-19 uhr oder so für radverkehr gesperrt... Eigentlich eher für die restliche Zeit freigegeben, da Radfahrer auf dem Rad ohne Zusatzschild da drin nix zu suchen haben ;) Grüße

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tag vs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Jochen Topf
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 09:16:17AM +0200, Gernot Hillier wrote: Auf der Wiki-Seite steht ja recht klar, dass es dem Mapper überlassen bleibt, ob er jetzt das addr:street-Tag oder die Relation associatedStreet verwendet. Dann sollte das mal jemand fixen. :-) Jetzt scheint es aber so zu

Re: [Talk-de] 30km/h - Anlieger frei

2009-08-09 Thread Herbert Hannebrook
Hallo da habe ich auch noch eine Variante: http://www.hannebrook.de/osm/Hund.jpg maxspeed=30 dogs=poop poop=no Herbert ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-09 Thread Sven Sommerkamp
Am Sonntag, 9. August 2009 07:39:06 schrieb DarkAngel: André Riedel schrieb: Am 8. August 2009 14:34 schrieb André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com: ... sowie eine kleine Anleitung, wie man diese ins Garmin-Gerät bringt. confused 8-/ Ein Zitat von deren Website: 150 Euro geschenkt

Re: [Talk-de] Off: Speed-Camera auch für Kreuzungs überwachung

2009-08-09 Thread Sven Sommerkamp
Am Samstag, 8. August 2009 15:10:50 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 8. August 2009 09:00 schrieb Sven Sommerkamp s_sommerk...@gmx.de: Ich meinte eigentlich beides. Argumentation die Überwachung durchzuführen ist die hohe Unfallwahrscheinlichkeit. Und gleichzeitig ist die Überwachung

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tag vs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Gernot Hillier
Tag! Jochen Topf schrieb: On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 09:16:17AM +0200, Gernot Hillier wrote: Auf der Wiki-Seite steht ja recht klar, dass es dem Mapper überlassen bleibt, ob er jetzt das addr:street-Tag oder die Relation associatedStreet verwendet. Dann sollte das mal jemand fixen. :-)

Re: [Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 9. August 2009 07:39 schrieb DarkAngel darkan...@ms-team.de: Ein Zitat von deren Website: 150 Euro geschenkt – wer will das nicht? Von uns können Sie‘s haben, zumindest ... Navi-Hersteller um nichts nach – nur im Preis, denn sie sind völlig kostenlos, während ansonsten zwischen 150 und 200

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tag vs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Gernot Hillier schrieb: Ok, verstanden. Habe die Seite ganz eigenmächtig mal ein wenig aufgeräumt. Oder eigentlich habe ich sie ziemlich aufgeräumt, weil ich sie schon immer furchtbar unübersichtlich fand. :-) Was mich an der Seite wundert, ist, dass einige Infos gegenüber dem Proposal

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. ass ociatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Seehundeführer
Kannm man das im Inspector bitte nachrüsten oder gibt es mittlerweile einen Konsens, das Tagging zu bevorzugen? Es gibt weltweit etwa 3800 Relationen mit type=associatedStreet und 248000 ways mit addr:street=*. Ich glaube das kann man einen Konsens nennen. Siehe auch:

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Seehundeführer schrieb: Hallo zusammen, das Problem mit dem Tagging anstelle der Relation ist, dass u.U. ein Haus nicht zugeordnet werden kann, ... wenn jemand statt Siemensstraße Siemenstraße schreibt.

Re: [Talk-de] 30km/h - Anlieger frei

2009-08-09 Thread Garry
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Selbst wenn da noch das 250er drüber hinge, eine merkwürdige Kombination: http://www.addicks.net/gallery/bizar/P8080188 Vielleicht ein privat ohne Sachkenntnis aufgestelltes Schild an einem Privatweg,,, Garry ___

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-09 Thread Tirkon
Stephan o...@stephans-server.de wrote: es fehlt ein Leerzeichen zwischen -Xmx256m und -Dsun.java Wenn das so gestartet wird sucht er die Datei josm-tested.jar im Verzeichnis C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\x Ich habe versucht, mich über das cmd.exe Fenster ein bißchen schlau zu machen und

Re: [Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-09 Thread André Riedel
Am 9. August 2009 15:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: ... Trinkwasserbrunnen in routingfähig ... ^^^ Habe ich noch nicht gebraucht ;o) Ich wollte nur darauf aufmerksam machen, dass die Anwendungen schon gut vermarktet werden. Wie die Ausführung im Magazin ist, das ist eine

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-09 Thread André Riedel
Hallo Tirkon, wo hast du die josm-tested.jar oder josm-latest.jar gespeichert? Ich gehe jetzt mal von C:\osm\josm aus. Eingaben müssen immer ohne die Anführungsstriche erfolgen. Um die Eingabeaufforderung zu starten (das ist kein DOS-modus) gehst du wie folgt vor: Windows XP: Start - Ausführen

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM ist nur ein wirrer Haufen bunter Pixel

2009-08-09 Thread André Riedel
Ergänzung: In der Eingabeaufforderung werden jetzt alle Fehlermeldungen und Statusberichte des Programmes aufgezeichnet. Dies unterstützt die spätere Fehlersuche, wenn irgendetwas wie in deinem Fall nicht funktioniert. Wenn alles Funktioniert, kann man java durch javaw ersetzen. Der Unterschied

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderkarte für Deutschland, Öste rreich, Schweiz

2009-08-09 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de writes: Die Garmin-Version der Wanderkarte ist jetzt für Deutschland, Österreich, die Schweiz und Südtirol verfügbar. Ich habe nun erstmal die karte auf ein Garmin kopiert und muss sagen, dass das viel besser ist, als ich noch kürzlich dachte. Großes Lob! Spätestens im

Re: [Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-09 Thread DarkAngel
André Riedel schrieb: Am 9. August 2009 15:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: ... Trinkwasserbrunnen in routingfähig ... ^^^ Habe ich noch nicht gebraucht ;o) Ich wollte nur darauf aufmerksam machen, dass die Anwendungen schon gut vermarktet werden. Wie die Ausführung im

Re: [Talk-de] 30km/h - Anlieger frei

2009-08-09 Thread Mario Salvini
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Selbst wenn da noch das 250er drüber hinge, eine merkwürdige Kombination: http://www.addicks.net/gallery/bizar/P8080188 -jha- schaut eher so aus, als hätte das 30 Schild oben gehangen dadrunter ein durchfahrt verboten (roter Ring auf weißem Grund) und jemand hat

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. as sociatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Sven Sommerkamp
Am Sonntag, 9. August 2009 15:26:10 schrieb Seehundeführer: Kannm man das im Inspector bitte nachrüsten oder gibt es mittlerweile einen Konsens, das Tagging zu bevorzugen? Es gibt weltweit etwa 3800 Relationen mit type=associatedStreet und 248000 ways mit addr:street=*. Ich glaube das

Re: [Talk-de] Magazin mit OSM-Deutschlandkarte auf Heft-CD

2009-08-09 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am So, 9.08.2009, 19:49 schrieb DarkAngel: [...] *g* Das ähnelt der Diskussionen bei der Erfindung des Telefons :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Mirko Küster
Allgemein denke ich das Relationen so wenig verwendet werden liegt hauptsächlich daran das sie so umständlich und unverständlich und wenig einheitlich zu handhaben sind. Und dann werden die auch gerne versaut, übersehen oder verschwinden auch gerne einmal ganz. Deswegen nutze ich wo es nur

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am So, 9.08.2009, 20:47 schrieb Mirko Küster: Hier auf den Dörfern ist das ganz normal das ein Haus mal weitab der eigentlichen Straße steht und nur über irgendwelche verwinkelten Gassen direkt angefahren werden kann. Der Router muss den Weg so oder so dahin suchen. Mappst du denn diese

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Mirko Küster
Mappst du denn diese Gassen? Tragen sie den gleichen Straßennamen? Kommt auf den Fall drauf an. Ist der Weg öffentlich zugänglich dann wird er auch gemappt. Mit den Straßennamen ist wieder ein Thema für sich. Manchmal laufen da z.B. zwei Wege paralel. Die eigentliche Straße vor dem Haus und

Re: [Talk-de] 30km/h - Anlieger frei

2009-08-09 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Mario Salvini schrieb: Selbst wenn da noch das 250er drüber hinge, eine merkwürdige Kombination: schaut eher so aus, als hätte das 30 Schild oben gehangen dadrunter ein durchfahrt verboten (roter Ring auf weißem Grund) und jemand hat sich den Spaß erlaubt da was umzumontieren. Sinn macht

Re: [Talk-de] Lokale Gruppen im Wiki und auf openstreetmap.de

2009-08-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Jochen Topf schrieb: Hi! Auf openstreetmap.de werden schon seit längerem die lokalen Gruppen aufgelistet und sie können auch auf der Karte angezeigt werden. Das ging bisher immer komplett manuell und war daher umständlich und schwer aktuell zu halten. Was meinst du, sollte man die Icons

Re: [Talk-de] 30km/h - Anlieger frei

2009-08-09 Thread Ulf Lamping
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Mario Salvini schrieb: Selbst wenn da noch das 250er drüber hinge, eine merkwürdige Kombination: schaut eher so aus, als hätte das 30 Schild oben gehangen dadrunter ein durchfahrt verboten (roter Ring auf weißem Grund) und jemand hat sich den Spaß erlaubt da

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tag vs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread SLXViper
Gernot Hillier schrieb: Und nebenbei noch eine Frage an die Relations-Verwender: warum darf der Member street nur einmal enthalten sein? Üblicherweise ist eine Straße doch in mehrere Teilstücke aufgeteilt. Dort müsste es also entweder Recurrence: one or more heißen - oder es müsste erlaubt

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread SLXViper
Sven Sommerkamp schrieb: Am Sonntag, 9. August 2009 15:26:10 schrieb Seehundeführer: Kannm man das im Inspector bitte nachrüsten oder gibt es mittlerweile einen Konsens, das Tagging zu bevorzugen? Es gibt weltweit etwa 3800 Relationen mit type=associatedStreet und 248000 ways

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern, addr:street-Tagvs. associatedStreet-Relation und OSM Inspector

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 10. August 2009 00:30 schrieb SLXViper slxvi...@gmx.net: Ich finde die Relation-Lösung deutlich einfacher und schneller zu benutzen, da man nicht zigmal für jede Nummer sämtliche Information redundant mitgeben muss. Selbst wenn man explizit angeben möchte, dass alle 200 Häuser in dieser

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