Re: [OSM-talk] Unions seem to be complaining about potential job losses if OS data is given away for free..

2010-01-10 Thread Aun Johnsen
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 10-01-10 05:30, John Smith schreef: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4826436.New_threat_to_jobs_at_Southampton_s_Ordnance_Survey/ Sounds like

Re: [OSM-talk] Unions seem to be complaining about potential job losses if OS data is given away for free..

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/10 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: So complaining about potential job loss in one company shows either lack of knowledge, or lack of competence. It is the latter than we are better off without them. The complaints about job losses is sales staff since the data may be given away there

[OSM-talk] Problem rendering Lake Falcon

2010-01-10 Thread Peter Herison
Hi Anybody see the error at Falcon Lake preventing Mapnik (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=26.5924lon=-99.1976zoom=14layers=B000FTF) and Osmarender (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=26.7685lon=-99.23zoom=12layers=0B00FTF) from rendering the lake correctly?

Re: [OSM-talk] Unions seem to be complaining about potential joblosses if OS data is given away for free..

2010-01-10 Thread Aun Johnsen
Phill, thanks for the correction, when having 3 languages it is easy to mix something Sorry, didn't read the article, tough luck for the sales people that somebody have been able to see through the scam and stopped them. If their jobs goes there are probably other places thay can sell stuff.

Re: [OSM-talk] New Highways view in OSM Inspector

2010-01-10 Thread Mike N.
Actually several of the Australian borders were drawn up on paper but the physical border differs because of miscalculation when surveyed, they just found out that the angle along NT/Qld borders differs in the direction they went north, so they'll probably update the paper maps, they said

[OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Daniel Neugebauer
Hi! I recently added a veterinary to OSM by setting amenity=veterinary as approved in August 2008; see: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Veterinary http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dveterinary Unfortunately, veterinaries are not yet being rendered by

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi, please not that I speak only for osmarender as other renderers are maintained by other people. The following is basically a rant. So don't get mad at me or take the following personally. rant You mapped something? great You checked the wiki for tags to model the reality with? ok You whine

Re: [OSM-talk] Can someone suggest a OSM/nearmap-based route-plotting tool

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: I don't know what a course is, and I haven't looked. Courses are supported by training/racing-oriented Garmin devices and add timing information, to allow better time estimates, and to give the user a target

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-10 Thread Aun Johnsen
The best political statement we can make is inclusionism. Include whatever in the database, so that everybody can do whatever they want with the map. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net writes: On 06/01/10 19:40, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Patrick Kilian o...@petschge.de wrote: If enough flying rhinoceros' are mapped I'll add it to osmarender. The interesting part here is the enough. If this is the standard process, could it be documented? It's extremely unclear at the moment what the process is

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: So you're overworked. How can we help? Oops, missed point 6. Ok, so how about this: proposals for new tags should include patches for OSMarender and Mapnik. Seem reasonable? Steve

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Patrick, Yes amenity=veterinary sounds good. Existing icons sound good too. About 1000 are even better. But don't hold your breath for this to appear on osmarender. If you really want or need it to render please do as much as possible of the following: Why the list. Everyone can modify the

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: If this is the standard process, could it be documented? It's extremely unclear at the moment what the process is for getting new tags supported. You currently have this chicken-and-egg situation where you don't know if

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
You currently have this chicken-and-egg situation where you don't know if it's worth using a tag because you don't know if it will ever be implemented. But now you're just mapping for the renderer. Regardless of whether or not Veterinaries get rendered, you should map them if you see them; it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Can someone suggest a OSM/nearmap-based route-plotting tool

2010-01-10 Thread Craig Wallace
On 10/01/2010 22:12, Steve Bennett wrote: Track: - WYSIWYG (the track on the gps is exactly what you created on the computer) - totally independent of map data quality - Can be as long and complicated as you like Most Garmins are limited to 500 points in a saved track. Though this is

[OSM-talk] Tag voting/rendering process (was Re: no rendering of amenity=veterinary)

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: There's a difference between establishing that a tag is 1) a useful way to model some aspect of physical reality, and 2) that it should show up in a particular renderer. Use a tag if it is 1). If you want 2), that's a

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag voting/rendering process (was Re: no rendering of amenity=veterinary)

2010-01-10 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: To establish whether it's a useful way? Nah, the process must have a stronger outcome or it's pointless. Or, if you like, to establish whether it's the *best* way to model it in the OSM database. I entirely disagree that

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag voting/rendering process (was Re: no rendering of amenity=veterinary)

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I would have said it's something like to establish that the tag is part of the official OSM tag set or something. And once established, it should be rendered (or explicitly not rendered, if inappropriate) by the

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.comwrote: You currently have this chicken-and-egg situation where you don't know if it's worth using a tag because you don't know if it will ever be implemented. But now you're just mapping for the renderer. Not by the usual

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Daniel Neugebauer
Hi! Sorry if I opened old wounds by asking; I couldn't find anything about the current status, that's why I asked. As a newbie to OSM it seemed strange that an approved proposal has an icon attached but noone ever mentioned it again. It's good to know that nothing has been done yet to include

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Patrick Kilian o...@petschge.de wrote: If enough flying rhinoceros' are mapped I'll add it to osmarender. The interesting part here is the enough. If this is the standard process,

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Lennard
Daniel Neugebauer wrote: I will look into Mapnik as well if there's also nothing in progress already. There is no ticket, open or closed, for mapnik regarding veterinaries. -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 11.01.2010 00:54, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com mailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: You currently have this chicken-and-egg situation where you don't know if it's worth using a tag because you don't know if it will

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Daniel Neugebauer
Personally I wouldn't care that much about whether something I enter into the database is going to be rendered on the official tiles or not; it's there and someone may use it some day. There are more use cases for the data in OSM than just being rendered to the usual road maps. But in my case,

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
Of course those are all good points and I support your veterinary efforts; sorry, I think I could have come across badly during my rant. I was arguing against the idea that we should only record (wiki approved) features that are going to appear in Mapnik/Osmarender tiles. In truth, of course,

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.comwrote: The first case is just garbage in the database - not nice but doesn't really hurt. But how do you know that it will never get rendered? Obviously you'd only know retrospectively. But when I say that unrendered tags

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
The most important thing, imho, is that different people who set out to tag the same thing do it the same way. +1 Which is why keep right! OSM Doc, tagstat, tagwatch, et al. are all so important. Cheers, Joseph 2010/1/11 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Can someone suggest a OSM/nearmap-based route-plotting tool

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: Most Garmins are limited to 500 points in a saved track. Though this is usually plenty, unless it is a rather long journey. The newer ones, including mine, are 2000 I think. You could turn off autorouting. ie set it

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.comwrote: The most important thing, imho, is that different people who set out to tag the same thing do it the same way. +1 Which is why keep right! OSM Doc, tagstat, tagwatch, et al. are all so important. Yes, but they

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 11 Jan 2010 6:03:49 am Steve Bennett wrote: For example, in this case, imagine that lots of people are using amenity=vet or service=veterinarian or something, which never gets supported. That's wasted effort, and may prevent someone else tagging those vets properly. do not

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/11 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org: The best political statement we can make is inclusionism. Include whatever in the database, so that everybody can do whatever they want with the map. What I'm wondering is, where is a pastafarian building? After all, I thought we were tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
The logical Pastafarian building would be a multilevel highway interchange, with crisscrossing bridges, since a slang term for those (at least in the USA) is spaghetti junction. If you have to cross one of those while it is covered in ice, there is definitely some prayer taking place (although

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Monday 11 Jan 2010 6:03:49 am Steve Bennett wrote: For example, in this case, imagine that lots of people are using amenity=vet or service=veterinarian or something, which never gets supported. That's wasted

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/11 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: The logical Pastafarian building would be a multilevel highway interchange, with crisscrossing bridges, since a slang term for those (at least in the USA) is spaghetti junction.  If you have to cross one of those while it is covered in ice,

Re: [OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
Same thing as a Tuk-Tuk (Thailand) or a moto-remorque (Cambodia)? If not the same, close enough to be worth rendering the same? We also have tags for vegetarian/non-vegetarian - also useless outside India. Hardly! So these things render on our server - but not on the official osm server.

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: distributori carburanti/metano-gpl

2010-01-10 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Il 08 gennaio 2010 18.09, Gianmario Mengozzi gianmario.mengo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi hai ricordato che da mesi abbiamo l'ok scritto di metanoauto.com a utilizzare il loro DB x l'import in osm... Se nn ricordo male nn c s era messi e'accordo per le modalità di impostazione Se hai bisogno

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: distributori carburanti/metano-gpl

2010-01-10 Thread Luigi Toscano
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: Il 08 gennaio 2010 18.09, Gianmario Mengozzi gianmario.mengo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi hai ricordato che da mesi abbiamo l'ok scritto di metanoauto.com a utilizzare il loro DB x l'import in osm... Se nn ricordo male nn c s era messi e'accordo per le modalità di

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: distributori carburanti/metano-gpl

2010-01-10 Thread niubii
Il 10/01/2010 10.06, Francesco de Virgilio ha scritto: Il 08 gennaio 2010 18.09, Gianmario Mengozzi gianmario.mengo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi hai ricordato che da mesi abbiamo l'ok scritto di metanoauto.com a utilizzare il loro DB x l'import in osm... Se nn ricordo male nn c s era messi

Re: [Talk-it] creare area in josm

2010-01-10 Thread Paolo Craveri
ciao 2010/1/9 David Paleino da...@debian.org: David Paleino wrote: Paolo Craveri wrote: ciao semplicemente trasformare una way (già digitata)  chiusa su se stessa in un'area. Nulla, un'«area» non esiste come oggetto OSM -- è semplicemente un'area chiusa.     intendevo way,

Re: [Talk-it] Acque territoriali

2010-01-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/8 iiizio iiizio iiizio.iii...@gmail.com Comunque ripeto: SECONDO ME CONVIENE LASCIARLI. +1 Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Acque territoriali

2010-01-10 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/1/10 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Comunque ripeto: SECONDO ME CONVIENE LASCIARLI. +1 Li sto lasciando, ma sono tutti da controllare: 1. in molti casi :left e :right sono sbagliati (non è che se avessimo usato left:province invece di province:left l'inversione della via e

Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: distributori carburanti/metano-gpl

2010-01-10 Thread Gianmario Mengozzi
Il giorno 10 gennaio 2010 10.06, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.comha scritto: Il 08 gennaio 2010 18.09, Gianmario Mengozzi gianmario.mengo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Mi hai ricordato che da mesi abbiamo l'ok scritto di metanoauto.com a utilizzare il loro DB x l'import in osm... Se

Re: [Talk-it] Acque territoriali

2010-01-10 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of iiizio iiizio Sent: venerdì 8 gennaio 2010 18.00 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Acque territoriali Ogni tanto faccio una verifica delle relazioni

[Talk-at] OpenStreetMap Karten im Ars Electronica Center

2010-01-10 Thread Dominik Hurnaus
Hallo zusammen, ich war heute im Ars Electronica Center und habe dort die Installation Sim Linz (http://www.aec.at/center_exhibitions_area_de.php?id=120) gesehen, die einen riesigen Ausdruck einer OpenStreetMap-Karte (ca 5m x 2m) zeigt. Die Installation ist interaktiv und erlaubt durch markieren

Re: [Talk-hr] Mapzen POI Collector - Free iPhone OpenStreetMap editor

2010-01-10 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:13:05 +0100, Željko Filipin wrote: Nisam još probao, upravo ga skidam. http://mapzen.cloudmade.com/mapzen-poi-collector Zakon programcic, i jedan od krivaca zasto sam kupio iPhone a ne Android ;) Od kako ga koristim u Osijeku se pojavljuje hrpe novih POIa! Dodao sam

[talk-ph] mapping stepjuan's journey

2010-01-10 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
Is there any software to automatically show his position on a map aside from someone having to update it manually? Looks like a great idea, maybe the web people should use facebook and twitter to keep people updated and spread the word before it starts even?

Re: [talk-ph] mapping stepjuan's journey

2010-01-10 Thread maning sambale
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: Is there any software to automatically show his position on a map aside from someone having to update it manually? Yes that would be better a moving icon as tomas walks. But I don't how to do this. :( Right now

Re: [talk-ph] Mapping experience

2010-01-10 Thread maning sambale
sehested, Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree the PH pages needs more work as it's not too friendly to newbies. Murlwe did some potlatch cheatsheet for the davao mapping wokrshop: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/osm-workshop-in-action.html

Re: [talk-ph] Car navigation using Garmin with OSM

2010-01-10 Thread maning sambale
I am in favor of adding maxspeed to roads whenever it is shown on the ground either as street sign or a local legislation. However, I am wary with simply adding maxspeed following RA4136. I am thinking of adding these default speedlimits to the garmin map, however, I don't know how we can

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Nieuwjaarsborrel

2010-01-10 Thread Milo van der Linden
Ik zal er zeker NIET zijn. De afgelopen weken heb ik mij als forens naar Amsterdam heerlijk laten naaien door de NS. Alle andere mensen kregen mijn 40% korting, ik kreeg als dank overvolle treinen en onzekere reisschema's die mij soms 4 uur enkele reis opleverden, maar ik zat wel iedere dag in

[OSM-talk-nl] osmosis: meerdere changes tegelijk?

2010-01-10 Thread Sybren A . Stüvel
Hallo OSMers, Ik werk mijn NL OSM file bij a.d.h.v. de daily diffs. Ik kom er alleen niet elke dag aan toe. Als ik dan meerdere diffs tegelijk zou kunnen verwerken met 1 commando hoeft er wellicht maar 1x de planet file ingelezen en weggeschreven te worden. Weten jullie of het mogelijk is om

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] osmosis: meerdere changes tegelijk?

2010-01-10 Thread Lennard
Sybren A. Stüvel wrote: ingelezen en weggeschreven te worden. Weten jullie of het mogelijk is om meerdere changes tegelijk te mergen met Osmosis? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/DetailedUsage#--merge-change_.28--mc.29 -- Lennard ___

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] osmosis: meerdere changes tegelijk?

2010-01-10 Thread Sybren A . Stüvel
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 01:30:06PM +0100, Lennard wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/DetailedUsage#--merge-change_.28--mc.29 Dat ik die heb gemist :P Dank je wel! -- Sybren Stüvel http://stuvel.eu/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/sybrenstuvel signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [talk-au] Download a route

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/10 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: John Smith wrote: Does anyone know of a complete route that we can use for testing against? Or at least one without large gaps between member ways... The HHWT has only one gap, at Lake Burrinjuck: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/308594

[talk-au] Custom highway shields

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
While it might seem things have gone quiet on this front, there has actually been some movement forward. Firstly I figured out how easy inkscape is to make custom shields of a tourist route which uses icons instead of numbers. All I had to do was simply take a reasonably photo of the sign, and

Re: [talk-au] Download a route

2010-01-10 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: The roundabouts are ok, it's when the track goes in multiple directions that things fall over. Unless you tell it not to link anything 1km or so apart, then it looks fine. See if this works for you at all...

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: Then we would have confusion around whether a picture on the ground counts as a sign or not :) My dictionary says that designated (in this sense) means denoted, marked or pointed out, which I'd say a sign or marking on

Re: [talk-au] Download a route

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/11 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: It'll be a few days before I get back to Yass to realistically test the behaviour. Make a local route and test it instead then, the script I made will take any valid relation ID... http://map-data.bigtincan.com/route2gpx/v2.php?routeid=XXroute=1

[talk-au] greenery between roads etc

2010-01-10 Thread Franc Carter
Hi, What are people doing for the green areas that are between 'other things', e.g in the middle of large roundabouts, between didvided roads with significant space. I can see this as a two part thing - mapping the geography and mapping it's socially defined status. In the geography category the

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/11 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: Then we would have confusion around whether a picture on the ground counts as a sign or not :) My dictionary says that designated (in this sense) means denoted, marked or

Re: [talk-au] greenery between roads etc

2010-01-10 Thread John Smith
2010/1/11 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com: Hi, What are people doing for the green areas that are between 'other things', e.g in the middle of large roundabouts, between didvided roads with significant space. I can see this as a two part thing - mapping the geography and mapping it's

Re: [talk-au] greenery between roads etc

2010-01-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.comwrote: What are people doing for the green areas that are between 'other things', e.g in the middle of large roundabouts, between didvided roads with significant space. I can see this as a two part thing - mapping the

Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 16, assunto 10

2010-01-10 Thread Fernando Caldas
É Bráulio, tem certas coisas ou projetos que devem ser mantidos em segredo. Principalmente quando se gera oportunidade de negócios. Não se deve pensar que o google compartilha suas APIs porque eles são bonzinhos. Eles compartilham para que se possa tirar proveito de nossas idéias ou iniciativas em

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Dieter Jasper
Am 09.01.2010 21:57, schrieb Ulf Möller: Mirko Küster schrieb: Wobei man das Forum auch über den RSS-Feed beobachten kann: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/extern.php?action=feedtype=rssfid=14 Mit Thunderbird ist das dann fast wie eine Mailingliste. :) Hallo, kanst du mir dafür eine step by

Re: [Talk-de] Suche auf openstreetmap.org: Im Firefox defekt?

2010-01-10 Thread pml1
Am Sonntag, 10. Januar 2010 00:53:32 schrieb Johann H. Addicks: Im IE (IE7, XP) kann ich nach wie vor den Suchbegriff eintippen und auf Los drücken. Wahlweise per Maus oder per Tastatur (tab enter). Im Firefox (3.5.7) will der Los-Button nimmer. Hilft Dir zwar nicht, aber im Firefox 3.5.6

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
MOin ! in der Regel Schleswig-Holstein und Hamburg und die andere eben Rheinland-Pfalz und Hessen. Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 09.01.2010 23:08, schrieb Andre Hinrichs: Am Samstag, den 09.01.2010, 21:30 +0100 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 09.01.2010 18:31, schrieb Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR): Hallo, ich verschmelze immer einige Bundesländer der Geofabrik und mache mir daraus meine Garmin-Karten. Ist es da

Re: [Talk-de] Suche auf openstreetmap.org: Im Firefox defekt?

2010-01-10 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Im IE (IE7, XP) kann ich nach wie vor den Suchbegriff eintippen und auf Los drücken. Wahlweise per Maus oder per Tastatur (tab enter). Im Firefox (3.5.7) will der Los-Button nimmer. Was mache ich falsch? Works for Me: FF 3.5.7 XP Wobei ich nicht tab-enter,

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 10.01.2010 00:22, schrieb Stephan Wolff: Am 09.01.2010 19:02, schrieb Werner Hoch: Hallo, Ich hab keine direkten Probleme, im Ausschnitt von Baden-Württemberg [1] sind seit heute aber ein paar Relationen mit mehreren Versionen enthalten. Danke für den Hinweis. Wahrscheinlich ist das

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Matthias Versen
Tirkon wrote: Und mein Vorschlag wäre es, die oben angesprochene Verbesserung der Mediawiki abzuwarten, das Einspielen derselben auch beim OSM-Wiki durchzuführen, den Suchindes dort automatisch zu aktualisieren, den Server auf Tempo zu bringen und dann die Diskussion vom Forum und der

Re: [Talk-de] Suche auf openstreetmap.org: Im Firefox defekt?

2010-01-10 Thread Max Andre
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Im IE (IE7, XP) kann ich nach wie vor den Suchbegriff eintippen und auf Los drücken. Wahlweise per Maus oder per Tastatur (tab enter). Im Firefox (3.5.7) will der Los-Button nimmer. Was mache ich falsch? Im FireFox 3.5.7 funktioniert es bei mir sowohl unter

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Ulf Möller
Dieter Jasper schrieb: Wobei man das Forum auch über den RSS-Feed beobachten kann: kanst du mir dafür eine step by step Anweisung geben. Ich schaffe es nicht das in Thunderbird zu integrieren. News Blogs Abonnements verwalten Hinzufügen Feed URL:

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Nop
Hallo! Am 09.01.2010 20:48, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Gleichzeitig darf das gerne als Diskussionsanstoß dienen, wie man am besten mit unseren gespaltenen Kommunikationsmedien umgeht. Ich verfolge derzeit 9 OSM Mailinglisten, das Wiki und das Forum, aber irgendwann wurde es mir auch zuviel, vor

Re: [Talk-de] Welcher Fehler im TMC?

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Anders
Andreas Pothe schrieb: Hi, kann mir jemand erklären, wo der Fehler sein soll? Wenn ich nichts übersehen habe, gibt es nur zwei Punkte (einen Positive, einen Negative), nur das Script zählt einen den beiden doppelt. http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/point.php?lcd=25289 Ja, genau, das

[Talk-de] [Fwd: Welcher Fehler im TMC?]

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Anders
Hallo Frederik, im der niedersachsen.osm.bz2 von gestern von der Geofabrik finde ich folgende Stelle: node id=609258074 version=1 timestamp=2010-01-08T15:48:06Z uid=37028 user=mobafan changeset=3571118 lat=52.0463661 lon=9.370162 tag k=TMC:cid_58:tabcd_1:Class v=Point/ tag

Re: [Talk-de] Welcher Fehler im TMC?

2010-01-10 Thread Andreas Pothe
Sven Anders: Andreas Pothe schrieb: Hi, kann mir jemand erklären, wo der Fehler sein soll? Wenn ich nichts übersehen habe, gibt es nur zwei Punkte (einen Positive, einen Negative), nur das Script zählt einen den beiden doppelt. http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/point.php?lcd=25289

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Dieter Jasper
Am 10.01.2010 12:20, schrieb Ulf Möller: Dieter Jasper schrieb: Wobei man das Forum auch über den RSS-Feed beobachten kann: kanst du mir dafür eine step by step Anweisung geben. Ich schaffe es nicht das in Thunderbird zu integrieren. News Blogs Abonnements verwalten Hinzufügen Feed

[Talk-de] Relationen der Buslinien und -haltestellen

2010-01-10 Thread Christian Knorr
Hallo zusammen, ich möchte in meiner Umgebung die Bushaltestellen dem neuen Schema (öpnv) entsprechend taggen. Aber die Tonnen an Informationen erschlagen mich. Steht die Essenz irgendwo in ein paar Zeilen geschrieben? Oder ein Beispiel? Ich habe mir die Relation [1] samt Kinder zur Brust genommen

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Ulf Möller
Tirkon schrieb: In Wikipedia laufen nahezu sämtliche Diskussionen ausschließlich über Wikipedia Wiki selbst. Das dann allerdings oft parallel auf mehreren Diskussionsseiten. Oder über private Wiki-Mail, oder im IRC, oder über die Mailingliste, oder über das Meta-Wiki... Auch da ist es oft

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator

2010-01-10 Thread Marcus Wolschon
2010/1/10 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Moin, Stefan Roggensack schrieb: Z.B. wir haben diese Kreuzung:     |   | A---B     |   |     1- C---D     |   |       2       |       vzu Ich würde den TMC-Punkte für die Straße 1 auf die Punkte B und C legen und

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen der Buslinien und -haltestellen

2010-01-10 Thread Max Andre
Christian Knorr schrieb: Hallo zusammen, ich möchte in meiner Umgebung die Bushaltestellen dem neuen Schema (öpnv) entsprechend taggen. Aber die Tonnen an Informationen erschlagen mich. Steht die Essenz irgendwo in ein paar Zeilen geschrieben? Oder ein Beispiel? Ich habe mir die Relation [1]

Re: [Talk-de] [Fwd: Welcher Fehler im TMC?]

2010-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Sven Anders wrote: Hab ich etwas nicht mitbekommen oder ist das nicht eigentlich verboten, das ein node mit einer id doppelt auftaucht. Ich hab grad von --rci auf --rri umgestellt, vermutlich ist das das Problem, ich fixe das heut abend. Bye Frederik

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator - Fehler: Unbekannter Value Version=8.0

2010-01-10 Thread Frank Gruender
Am 05.01.2010 17:56, schrieb Sven Anders: Ich freue mich eine neue Anwenundung vorzustellen. Den TMC Validator. Hab die ganze Weihacnhtszeit daran gebastelt. Ihr findet Ihn unter: http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/ Moin, folgende Meldung kommt hier:

Re: [Talk-de] [Fwd: Welcher Fehler im TMC?]

2010-01-10 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Sven Anders schrieb: im der niedersachsen.osm.bz2 von gestern von der Geofabrik finde ich folgende Stelle: node id=609258074 version=1 timestamp=2010-01-08T15:48:06Z node id=609258074 version=2 timestamp=2010-01-08T16:54:03Z Sind das Einzelfälle oder sollte man seine Karte nach

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Tobias Knerr schrieb: Wackelnde Marker auf der Karte von magixAG http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5937 JOSM: Problem beim Upload (Login) von mapdiger http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5936 Irgendwie finde ich es schade, dass jetzt hier eine unnütze Diskussion

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen der Buslinien und -haltestellen

2010-01-10 Thread Christian Knorr
Hallo, das sieht in meinen Augen schon recht gut aus. Nur würde ich den Haltestellen (in der Relation) noch die Rolle stop (oder auch forward/backward:stop) zuweisen, damit auch in der Relation klar ist, dass es sich hier um eine Haltestelle handelt. Siehe: [1] Ok, das werde ich mir noch

Re: [Talk-de] maxspeed=DE:Urban

2010-01-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 10. Januar 2010 07:57 schrieb Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de: Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: maxspeed=DE:urban So langsam erscheint mir das Mappen auf OSM auf ein Warum einfach, wenn es auch kompliziert geht hinauszulaufen. +1 Aber wenn es wie hier möglich ist, dies bei einem

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
TOFU! TOFU! TOFU! Sorry, aber das mußte einfach mal raus! Im übrigen könnt ihr auch gleich die Diskussion führen, welcher Gott denn der richtige ist - wäre genauso sinnlos und würde auch nur die Leute nerven. Am 10.01.2010 08:58, schrieb Florian Lohoff: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:20:13AM

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator - Fehler: Unbekannter Value Version=8.0

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Anders
Frank Gruender schrieb: Am 05.01.2010 17:56, schrieb Sven Anders: Ich freue mich eine neue Anwenundung vorzustellen. Den TMC Validator. Hab die ganze Weihacnhtszeit daran gebastelt. Ihr findet Ihn unter: http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/ Moin, folgende Meldung kommt hier:

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 10.01.2010 10:45, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Was machst Du denn wo in SH ? Gruß Jan .-) Ich habe an und auf der Kieler Förde diverses in OSM eingegeben. Ansonsten bemühe ich mich, die Feld- und Waldwege in Fahrradentfernung von Kiel zu erfassen. Manchmal nehme ich Stromleitungen und

[Talk-de] Doppelte Objekte im Osmosis Output (war Re: [Fwd: Welcher Fehler im TMC?])

2010-01-10 Thread Sven Anders
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hallo, Sven Anders wrote: Hab ich etwas nicht mitbekommen oder ist das nicht eigentlich verboten, das ein node mit einer id doppelt auftaucht. Ich hab grad von --rci auf --rri umgestellt, vermutlich ist das das Problem, ich fixe das heut abend. Weiß nicht nach

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Stephan Wolff schrieb am 10.01.2010 16:03: Ich habe an und auf der Kieler Förde diverses in OSM eingegeben. Ansonsten bemühe ich mich, die Feld- und Waldwege in Fahrradentfernung von Kiel zu erfassen Und warum fehlt dann der Fernwanderweg E1 zwischen Strande und Eckernfoerde noch ;-) Bei

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Stephan Wolff
Am 10.01.2010 16:27, schrieb Torsten Leistikow: Stephan Wolff schrieb am 10.01.2010 16:03: Ich habe an und auf der Kieler Förde diverses in OSM eingegeben. Ansonsten bemühe ich mich, die Feld- und Waldwege in Fahrradentfernung von Kiel zu erfassen Und warum fehlt dann der Fernwanderweg E1

Re: [Talk-de] Unbeantwortete Fragen im OSM-Forum

2010-01-10 Thread Florian Gross
Am So Januar 10 2010 glaubte Chris-Hein Lunkhusen zu wissen: Irgendwie finde ich es schade, dass jetzt hier eine unnütze Diskussion Forum vs. Liste stattfindet anstatt auf die Sachfragen zB der MagixAG einzugehen. ;-) Ein automatisches Gateway wäre insofern problematisch dass der ohnehin

[Talk-de] Mapping Party in Troisdorf, 23.01.2010

2010-01-10 Thread SB79
Hallo, hier nur ein kurzer Hinweis auf eine Mapping-Party, die am Samstag, den 23.01.2010 in Troisdorf stattfinden wird. Interessierte sind herzlich eingeladen! Mehr Informationen hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Troisdorf/Veranstaltungen Gruß, Stephan -- sb-lis...@gmx-topmail.de

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator

2010-01-10 Thread Stefan Roggensack
Am Sonntag, den 10.01.2010, 13:27 +0100 schrieb Marcus Wolschon: 2010/1/10 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Moin, Stefan Roggensack schrieb: Z.B. wir haben diese Kreuzung: | | A---B | | 1- C---D | | 2 | vzu

Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator - Fehler: Unbekannter Value Version=8.0

2010-01-10 Thread Marcus Wolschon
2010/1/10 Sven Anders s...@anders-hamburg.de: Dabei fällt mir auf, daß ggf. der Tag auch (sofern casesensitive) eigentlich *LCLVersion statt *LCLversion heissen müsste? Dein Script auf der o.g. Seite gibt als Vorschlag zum Erfassen der Daten die kleine version vor. Sind tags nicht seid API

Re: [Talk-de] Nodes einfügen - Fehler in Potlatch?

2010-01-10 Thread Mark Obrembalski
Johann H. Addicks wrote: Hier funktioniert es wie immer. (Habe jetzt mangels Ortssuche im FF im IE7 mit Flash-10 probiert, Potlach 1.3b). Auch bei mir funktioniert es jetzt wieder. Keine Ahnung, was da los war. Gruß, Mark ___ Talk-de mailing

[Talk-de] [JOSM] suche nach (

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Kokolakis
Hallo, wie kann ich ein Klammer-Symbol in einer JOSM Suche benutzen? Habe es schon als regulären Ausdruck probiert, aber er reklamiert. Beste Grüße, Simon ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit SPLITTER

2010-01-10 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 10.01.2010 16:03, schrieb Stephan Wolff: Am 10.01.2010 10:45, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Was machst Du denn wo in SH ? Gruß Jan .-) Ich habe an und auf der Kieler Förde diverses in OSM eingegeben. Ansonsten bemühe ich mich, die Feld- und Waldwege in Fahrradentfernung von Kiel zu erfassen.

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