Re: [OSM-talk-be] Track Grade 1

2010-02-22 Thread Ben Laenen
Kenny Moens wrote: Hello, Are there any formal conventions in BE about the Track Grade1? I see them appearing regularly in the area between Brussels and Leuven, and also around Sint-Truiden for roads limited to agricultural use. Personally I tend to avoid them and instead use the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-22 Thread d8930
Strange enough, I still get the wrong result, even when using 100.0 instead of 100. The extra ) was because I copied the line from Java code. Maybe somethings wrong with my spatial_ref_sys table. I have two entries: 4326;EPSG; 4326; GEOGCS[WGS 84,DATUM[WGS_1984,SPHEROID[WGS

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-22 Thread Liz
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Jochen Plumeyer wrote: In our case of photo geo tagging this is no issue I think. Please tell me if I'm wrong here. For photo geo-tagging the main problem is that you can set the camera time to a resolution of one minute, not one second, and the camera time will drift,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-22 Thread d8930
d8930 wrote: It works for me, though there was an extra ) in what you quoted. gis= select astext(ST_Transform(ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(92409686/100,646985238/100),900913), 4326)); astext -

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-22 Thread d8930
d8930 wrote: Strange enough, I still get the wrong result, even when using 100.0 instead of 100. The extra ) was because I copied the line from Java code. Maybe somethings wrong with my spatial_ref_sys table. I have two entries: 4326;EPSG; 4326; GEOGCS[WGS

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-22 Thread d8930
Sorry for spamming. I found out that it has to deal with the 4326 entry. I have added the projection 4324 from the Postgis installation package, and I get quite precise results: POINT(8.30107722233746 50.1359315159791) Nevertheless, this result differs a few meters from the one you obtained with

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-22 Thread Jon Burgess
On 22 February 2010 10:51, d8930 d8...@uggsrock.com wrote: Sorry for spamming. I found out that it has to deal with the 4326 entry. I have added the projection 4324 from the Postgis installation package, and I get quite precise results: POINT(8.30107722233746 50.1359315159791) Nevertheless,

[OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Not sure if talk's the best place for this, rather than dev, but I would guess so as it doesn't relate to OSM development itself. Anyway, some time ago I developed the OSM plugin for Mapnik, but due to other things haven't worked on it for a while. However I always thought that it would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Do people think this is a good idea? It's one of several possibilities that I'd like to work on, though I'd probably only do so if there's sufficient interest and/or I can't resolve the memory issues on my own site in other ways. Sorry to follow up my own post - but I forgot to say, this would

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi Nick! On Lun 22 Feb 2010, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Do people think this is a good idea? It's one of several possibilities that I'd like to work on, though I'd probably only do so if there's sufficient interest and/or I can't resolve the memory issues on my own site in other ways. well, to

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi again, Sorry for misinterpreting your mail. Now I understand, that you suggest uploading tiles to a server due to (memory) restrictions. If PostGIS is not what you like, what about MySQL (perhaps without geo extensions, if they depend on libraries not available on a common hosting server

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Nick, I would be very interested in such an application, especially for generating custom tiles from an OSM file for use on mobile devices. Cheers, Joseph On 22 February 2010 12:43, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Not sure if talk's the best place for this, rather than

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nick, the main problem with the OSM plugin is that the user group most likely to be unable or unwilling to install PostGIS is also the group least likely to develop their own map style, and the plugin doesn't come with something even remotely resembling what these people usually expect,

Re: [OSM-talk] cartagena colrut reconocimiento

2010-02-22 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
Legal issue about OSM being used in another map database - redirecting to talk-es and talk-co ... El 22/02/2010 3:35, diego lesmes escribió: http://groups.google.com.co/group/colrut-em/browse_thread/thread/f27c4b8bc7ffb029/d776a7d882a7db83?lnk=gstq=cartagena#d776a7d882a7db83 pienso me

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get

[OSM-talk] Underwater scuba map in KML

2010-02-22 Thread TimSC
Hi all, I was playing around exporting OSM to KML. I did this underwater map which is intended for scuba diving. Various points of interest and underwater guide ropes are shown. I used python to do the conversion. http://timsc.dev.openstreetmap.org/dev/leybourne.kmz I have used parts of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-22 Thread Craig Wallace
On 22/02/2010 09:04, Liz wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Jochen Plumeyer wrote: In our case of photo geo tagging this is no issue I think. Please tell me if I'm wrong here. For photo geo-tagging the main problem is that you can set the camera time to a resolution of one minute, not one second,

Re: [OSM-talk] Underwater scuba map in KML

2010-02-22 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, Nice map. im using the OpenStreetMap KML overlay to look at it on Google Earth. Regarding contours, if your plannng on using the map with an underwater GPS device. i would recommend using a marine charts map as an overlay, so to get your depth contours. Just as you would use a SRTM contour

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
Anthony wrote: What about http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area ? That key doesn't describe the area covered by a road that is linear in character - whenever a road could intuitively described as something that goes from here to there, area=yes likely isn't the right tag to use.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Richard Weait typed: snip What is it about these streets that requires areas? Does this extend to your town and state as well? I think it is because I like to map with much detail. I like to map it 'as it really is'. That is not the only reason. Maybe it's how the map looks also in various

[OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

2010-02-22 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi, I own a cell phone which can take pictures, but it doesn't store pictures in exif format. After much research over time it seems I couldn't even add exif by hand to the pictures I took with it.(with the purpose to put the modification date in exif format in the picture by hand) Yesterday I

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 06:41, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is because I like to map with much detail. I like to map it 'as it really is'. In reality you are only mapping an approximation, maps aren't supposed to replace aerial imagery they serve different purposes.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Hi, Am Montag 22. Februar 2010 21:50:36 schrieb John Smith: You will end up breaking routing etc if you don't also include a way, Yes, that's right, have a look at http://osm.org/go/0MBdEXMHO- for example. Greetings, Carsten -- Hier ist mein öffentlicher GPG-Schlüssel:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Katie Filbert
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:50 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 23 February 2010 06:41, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is because I like to map with much detail. I like to map it 'as it really is'. In reality you are only mapping an approximation,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: ...Way representation is more useful for ... - anything that has directional information, such as oneway roads Exactly. Mapping a way as an area is fine as long as you also represent *the path of travel*. detailed

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote: Yes, that's right, have a look at http://osm.org/go/0MBdEXMHO- for example. That looks great, and so simple... highway=* for the way, AND highway=* + area=yes for the area. Is this a solved problem, then? Any complaints

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 07:53, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote: Yes, that's right, have a look at http://osm.org/go/0MBdEXMHO- for example. That looks great, and so simple... highway=* for the way, AND Until you

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread David Paleino
Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote: Yes, that's right, have a look at http://osm.org/go/0MBdEXMHO- for example. That looks great, and so simple... highway=* for the way, AND highway=* + area=yes for the area. I already used it a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 08:05, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: I remember someone complaining with me that routers not supporting highway=* + area=yes in the same relation with a normal highway=*, might get confused -- and that something like landuse=road would be better. Wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread David Paleino
On Monday 22 February 2010 23:26:52, John Smith wrote: On 23 February 2010 08:05, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: I remember someone complaining with me that routers not supporting highway=* + area=yes in the same relation with a normal highway=*, might get confused -- and that

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Colin Marquardt
2010/2/21 Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com: I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? Since I haven't seen it linked here yet, take a look at that area (both ways for routing and areas for

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating custom OSM sites using the Mapnik OSM plugin?

2010-02-22 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 13:43, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Do people think this is a good idea? It's one of several possibilities that I'd like to work on, though I'd probably only do so if there's sufficient interest and/or I can't resolve the memory issues on my own

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: ...Way representation is more useful for ... - anything that has directional information, such as oneway roads Exactly. Mapping a way as an

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:30 PM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: On Monday 22 February 2010 23:26:52, John Smith wrote: On 23 February 2010 08:05, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: I remember someone complaining with me that routers not supporting highway=* + area=yes in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:05 AM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: Is this a solved problem, then? Any complaints with this approach (cause it looks damn pretty on mapnik, at least...) I remember someone complaining with me that routers not supporting highway=* + area=yes in the same

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Exactly. Mapping a way as an area is fine as long as you also represent *the path of travel*. What path of travel?  There are many paths of travel, and generally none of them are properly represented by a line going through the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Richard Weait
I was initially impressed with the German example of area mapping but I have had a change of heart. While an interesting experiment, and relatively well implemented in the small test area, I just don't think area mapping of ordinary roads makes sense. To do area mapping without also doing the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 14:10, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I was initially impressed with the German example of area mapping but I have had a change of heart. While an interesting experiment, and relatively well implemented in the small test area, I just don't think area mapping of

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Anthony
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Exactly. Mapping a way as an area is fine as long as you also represent *the path of travel*. What path of travel? There are many paths of travel,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Lester Caine
Colin Marquardt wrote: 2010/2/21 Niklas Cholmkvisttowards...@gmail.com: I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? Since I haven't seen it linked here yet, take a look at that area (both ways

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 16:22, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I only found one (the one about directional information, in the case of a one-way road) to be correct. The other 5 were complaints about how the current renderers work. Anyway, I do think there is one major problem with mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:30 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 23 February 2010 16:22, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I only found one (the one about directional information, in the case of a one-way road) to be correct. The other 5 were complaints about how the current

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 16:43, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: We've got all the tools we need - nodes and relations. With them we can build anything else we want. I'm sure people said the same thing about ways and nodes, why did we need relations? It has the potential to reduce redundent

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:49 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 23 February 2010 16:43, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: We've got all the tools we need - nodes and relations. With them we can build anything else we want. I'm sure people said the same thing about ways and

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 17:30, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Perhaps they did, but they would be wrong. Because of hindsight? Relations are recursive - they can contain other relations. Ways can only contain nodes. You missed the point, I'm just giving examples to show that people who think

Re: [Talk-it] strade con doppia denominazione

2010-02-22 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/2/22 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Il nome rimane uguale per tutta la strada a partire dal versante nord a quello sud del Montello: le prese vengono indicate tramite un numero (per citare l'esempio: Presa XV) e un nome legato alla Prima Guerra Mondiale (Via Medaglie d'Oro)

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe garmin?

2010-02-22 Thread Marco Certelli
--- Lun 22/2/10, Domenico dokitaba...@alice.it ha scritto: Comunque anche nel drivemap style si riscontra lo stesso problema in quei boschi bo... se vuoi darci un'occhiata sono i due boschetti divisi dal lago gornalunga, li trovi qui

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe garmin?

2010-02-22 Thread Domenico
Marco Certelli ha scritto: Lo guarderò... Spero non sia un problema di mkgmap. Scusami era un problema di rendering di mapsource che ha subito troppe installazioni di mappe e ha cominciato a dare i numeri, riavviando il pc il bosco viene visualizzato correttamente con il tuo style!

Re: [Talk-it] Repository per josm-tested e josm-latest

2010-02-22 Thread Pasquale Ambrosini
Ciao Simone, ad essere sincero non mi sono mai posto il problema dell'allocazione, se saresti così gentile da inviarmi il tuo script (magari commentato almeno per la parte che riguarda l'allocazione) sarei ben felice di darci uno sguardo e, perchè no, implementarlo nello script attraverso un

Re: [Talk-it] strade con doppia denominazione

2010-02-22 Thread Giorgio Scandiuzzo
Il 22/02/2010 9.07, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: Mi stavo chiedendo se si potesse usare ref anziché alt_name. Dopotutto le Prese sono proprio numerate... name=Via Medaglie d'Oro ref=Presa XV Nell'usare ref c'è una piccola complicazione: per un tratto, due prese sono strade provinciali,

Re: [Talk-it] strade con doppia denominazione

2010-02-22 Thread Giorgio Scandiuzzo
Il 22/02/2010 14.23, Gianluca Frare ha scritto: Per me va bene usare questa cobinazione. name: via xx alt_name: Presa + 1 Aggiungerei una relazione apposita per i percorsi in bici e in mtb, dal momento che, come mi han fatto notare anche alcuni biker, le prese sono molto

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe garmin?

2010-02-22 Thread Marco Certelli
--- Lun 22/2/10, Domenico dokitaba...@alice.it ha scritto: Da: Domenico dokitaba...@alice.it Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Mappe garmin? A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Data: Lunedì 22 febbraio 2010, 15:16 Marco Certelli ha scritto: Lo guarderò... Spero non sia un

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 22 febbraio 2010 09.37, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: Anche considerando le icone di OSM (che danno un'idea del significato inteso dei due tag) propongo amenity=bar per 3 e amenity=cafe per 1. Propongo amenity=cafe anche per 2.: hanno orari e tipo di servizio più

Re: [Talk-it] strade con doppia denominazione

2010-02-22 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 22 febbraio 2010 00.05, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2010/2/18 Giorgio Scandiuzzo maza...@gmail.com: Il nome rimane uguale per tutta la strada a partire dal versante nord a quello sud del Montello: le prese vengono indicate tramite un numero (per citare l'esempio:

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 22 febbraio 2010 00.35, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: quindi esistono delle cafe in Italia, ma molto di meno rispetto ai bar. +1 ciao, Martin ciao Luca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 22/02/2010 19:40, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: secondo me per due amenity = bar perche solitamente quello sotto casa fa anche panini, magari pranzi, ed è più simile ad un 3 che a un 1 Non direi proprio: semmai ci si avvicina più ad un pub anglosassone. Caspita, guardiamo le icone: nel 90%

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Luigi Toscano
Carlo Stemberger wrote: Il 22/02/2010 19:40, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: secondo me per due amenity = bar perche solitamente quello sotto casa fa anche panini, magari pranzi, ed è più simile ad un 3 che a un 1 Non direi proprio: semmai ci si avvicina più ad un pub anglosassone. Caspita,

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/2/22 Luigi Toscano luigi.tosc...@tiscali.it: Non direi proprio: semmai ci si avvicina più ad un pub anglosassone. Caspita, guardiamo le icone: nel 90% dei casi (probabilmente sottostimo) un italiano entra in un bar per bere un caffè. È il simbolo usato mettendo amenity=cafe O per

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Luigi Toscano
Federico Cozzi wrote: 2010/2/22 Luigi Toscanoluigi.tosc...@tiscali.it: Non direi proprio: semmai ci si avvicina più ad un pub anglosassone. Caspita, guardiamo le icone: nel 90% dei casi (probabilmente sottostimo) un italiano entra in un bar per bere un caffè. È il simbolo usato mettendo

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread iiizio iiizio
2010/2/22 Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com: Il 22/02/2010 19:40, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: secondo me per due amenity = bar perche solitamente quello sotto casa fa anche panini, magari pranzi, ed è più simile ad un 3 che a un 1 Non direi proprio: semmai ci si avvicina più ad un

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 22/02/2010 23:39, iiizio iiizio ha scritto: Caspita, guardiamo le icone: nel 90% dei casi (probabilmente sottostimo) un italiano entra in un bar per bere un caffè. È il simbolo usato mettendo amenity=cafe E questa statistica da dove esce? Era fatta a naso. Ma non credo di

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/2/22 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: Però si può mangiare anche in un amenity=cafe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caf%C3%A9 Mi accorgo ora che in quella voce, se si fa clic su Italiano, si viene mandati qui: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_(pubblico_esercizio) Che conforta la teoria che

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread totera
Carlo Stemberger-3 wrote: Andiamo ai voti? Direi di sì... qual è la procedura? Purtroppo mi sembra che ci sia un problema di metodo non molto corretto: nonostante questa discussione ancora in corso, in cui almeno metà dei partecipanti è pro bar, in questi ultimi giorni sono state

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora su bar o cafe: proposta

2010-02-22 Thread totera
Carlo Stemberger-3 wrote: Caspita, guardiamo le icone: nel 90% dei casi (probabilmente sottostimo) un italiano entra in un bar per bere un caffè. È il simbolo usato mettendo amenity=cafe Qui non è questione di rendering; è proprio un problema di semantica: il simbolo rappresenta il

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe garmin?

2010-02-22 Thread Domenico
Marco Certelli ha scritto: Allora, ho dato una occhiata: i 2 boschi sono taggati uno landuse=forest e l'altro natural=scrub se guardi il masterstyle noterai nel file polygons ... landuse=forest [0x50 resolution 18] ... natural=scrub [0x4f resolution 20] ... questo significa che i 2

[Talk-at] Schnellstraßen - Autobahn oder Autostr aße

2010-02-22 Thread Andreas Labres
Hallo! Mir ist aufgefallen, daß derzeit die Schnellstraßen (mit S-Nummern) streng nach Rang gemappt sind, also Autobahnen (die mit dem blauen Brücken-Schild) als motorway und Autostraßen (die mit dem blauen Auto-Schild) als trunk. Sieht man zB bei St. Pölten Nord (südlich eine Autobahn, nördlich

Re: [Talk-at] Schnellstraßen - Autobahn oder Autostr aße

2010-02-22 Thread my_friend
Sorry, dass ich mir vorhin etwas ungenau ausgedrückt habe. Zwischen Krems-Mitte und Krems-Ost gibt es auch Ampelkreuzungen. Die Schilder sind auch weiß, nicht blau wie bei Autobahnen üblich. Daher diesen Abschnitt als trunk belassen. Sonst meinerseits OK. S33 Krems-Süd - St. Pölten und S5

Re: [Talk-at] Schnellstraßen - Autobahn oder Autostr aße

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Kaiser
Andreas Labres wrote: Mein Vorschlag wäre, es eher so zu zeichnen wie auf der Asfinag-Website http://roadpilot.asfinag.at: alles, was autobahnähnlich ausgebaut ist (also mit getrennten Richtungsfahrbahnen und mindestens 2 Spuren pro Richtung), als motorway, und nur Schnellstraßen, bei denen

Re: [Talk-at] Schnellstraßen - Autobahn oder Autostr aße

2010-02-22 Thread Hermann Schwärzler
hallo Andreas Labres schrieb: [...] Weißt Du, wie die anderen Sxx aussehen? Speziell zu S3, S4, S16, S31, S35-37 hab ich grade keine Erinnerung bzw. bin dort noch nie gefahren. die S16 ist durchgehend als trunk getaggt, ist aber von hier (west-portal des arlbergtunnels)

[talk-ph] Featured image: OpenOrienteeringMap of Ayala Center

2010-02-22 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, This week's Featured image is the OpenOrienteeringMap render of Ayala Center: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OpenOrienteeringMap_of_Ayala_Center,_Makati_2010-01-29.png (I mentioned OpenOrienteeringMap last month:

Re: [talk-ph] Quarterly Mapping Parties (was: Re: Looking forward to OSM-PH in 2010

2010-02-22 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, For the 1st quarter Mapping Party, the selected venue is Marikina City. Short details: When: March 20, 2010 (Saturday) Where: Marikina Meet-up place: maybe Blue Wave Marquinton Post-mapping place: SM City Marikina (free Wi-Fi!) What: Day: POI mapping (similar to the Cubao

[talk-ph] Announcing: OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party

2010-02-22 Thread maning sambale
hi, Here's my short blurb announcing our first mapping party for this year. Please forward to any mailinglist/group whom you think will be interested. A list of yahoogroups I posted the announcement is here:

Re: [talk-ph] gps traces of ianlopez from the gpstogo unit

2010-02-22 Thread Jim Morgan
He moves pretty fast! :-) Jim maning sambale wrote, On Tuesday, 23 February, 2010 01:34 PM: A video of gps traces around Los Banos and San Pablo mostly by ianlopez http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/4381308650/ The most updated map of theses towns was mapped purely from gps and local

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3Dshapes

2010-02-22 Thread Peter Peterse
Maar de meest pragmatische oplossing is om je $vervoermiddel te pakken en wat tijd te spenderen aan het doorkruisen van je omgeving. Als je dit een aantal keer en op verschillende dagen doet, en je bekijkt dan al je traces, ben je redelijk in staat om te zeggen wat er fout en goed

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3Dshapes

2010-02-22 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Peter Peterse wrote: Maar de meest pragmatische oplossing is om je $vervoermiddel te pakken en wat tijd te spenderen aan het doorkruisen van je omgeving. Als je dit een aantal keer en op verschillende dagen doet, en je bekijkt dan al je traces, ben je redelijk in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3Dshapes

2010-02-22 Thread Lennard
Peter Peterse wrote: Ik zal idd maar weer beginnen met alles opnieuw te doorkruisen. Alles hoeft natuurlijk ook niet. Een aantal trajecten her en der lijkt me voldoende voor een eerste blik? -- Lennard ___ Talk-nl mailing list

[OSM-talk-nl] welkoms email

2010-02-22 Thread Rob
Hoe ziet tegenwoordig de welkoms email eruit ? staat er een verwijzing naar alle communicatie platformen in ? (irc/forum/maillinglist ?) Groeten Rob ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] welkoms email

2010-02-22 Thread Martijn van Exel
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Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 18:20 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 22 February 2010 17:56, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure but being traced and annotated makes it much *easier* for people to retrieve information about your private property (e.g. through an API call).

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 19:07, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: A water supply company could be interested to know how many pools are in an area to know what areas might have higher demand during filling season. But, a pool cleaning business in the future might search on the map to find

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 19:10 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 22 February 2010 19:07, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: A water supply company could be interested to know how many pools are in an area to know what areas might have higher demand during filling season. But, a pool cleaning

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 19:31, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: No, what Im say(ing) is, Im unsure if theres a privacy issue, and asking for others opinions or if theres any precedents to follow (other than the court cases brought against google for invasion of privacy). I really can't

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 19:43, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I'm concerned about marking what are actual terrorist targets (not the media frenzy type terrorists who are at airports) telephone exchange, communications tower, power lines things not usually well mapped in commercial offerings but

Re: [talk-au] Pools (Was: tennis court land)

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 19:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Aerial imagery doesnt normally have a street map overlayed, and when it does, just ask google if theres any privacy issues when it comes to high detail aerial photos. The only trouble google has gotten into is with street

Re: [talk-au] Overland Track added

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:18 PM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I suppose it's more popular than when I first walked it - didn't see anyone for a couple of days.  A friend did a winter trip around that time and didn't encounter anyone else at all. Yeah, during peak season, there's

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:28 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Ive been wondering about the idea of mapping private pools in the same way as private tennis courts have been marked, but been worried about some issues, particularly privacy.  With the mapping of tennis courts taking

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't think it's reasonable to map anything on a residential property I wonder if any lawyer/privacy expert/etc. has written on this subject before... ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Luke Woolley
Well the story is, I just happened to be drawing roads in Portsea one day and I thought it would be a bit of a laugh to show off how the rich holidaymakers spend their time! People say Portsea has a tennis culture, now the map proves it! I am curious to know if Portsea has the highest

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 07:20, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't think it's reasonable to map anything on a residential property, particularly not anything that can't be seen from the street. I'm not sure why lakeboy did all this, but my preference would be to tag it

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 08:20 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: Personally I don't think it's reasonable to map anything on a residential property, particularly not anything that can't be seen from the street. Because, people in the air could be helped by being able to reference pools, power lines or

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 20:43 +1100, Liz wrote: I'm concerned about marking what are actual terrorist targets (not the media frenzy type terrorists who are at airports) telephone exchange, communications tower, power lines things not usually well mapped in commercial offerings but which if

Re: [talk-au] Overland Track added

2010-02-22 Thread John Henderson
Steve Bennett wrote: Garmin Oregon 550. I see that's got a barometric altimeter too. Very good. Ah. What is GPS-derived altitude though, exactly - does it rely on a model of the earth's surface, or is it effectively computing the distance from the satellites? Purely from satellites,

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 12:50, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Havent you heard the new technique? These days the PR arm of the media-terrorists simply have to say 'were planning something at airport xyz' and the government machine will kick into action and cause chaos at the airport

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
Heh, yeah, I assumed it was something like that. It's ok to have the data in there, I guess, but I don't think it should render on the default mapnik. If for no other reason than we want *public* tennis courts to be visible, and all those private ones just create a lot of noise. Maybe not an

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't think it's reasonable to map anything on a residential property What about 1) The number on the letter box 2) A power pole that happens to be present on a private block 3) The roofline (as in

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ... I don't think it should render on the default mapnik. If for no other reason than we want *public* tennis courts to be visible, and all those private ones just create a lot of noise. Just add access=private (or

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: Mainly because I normally give landuses a -3 layer and for things that sit just above or directly on the ground I give the next layer up. Probably doesn't need it, but it will do no harm being there. Ah, I had wondered

[talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, The Aus tagging guidelines suggest using highway=path foot=yes: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines But surely foot=designated is the correct tag, particularly for tracks which explicitly ban every other mode of transport. However I should point out that

Re: [talk-au] Hiking tracks: foot=yes or foot=designated?

2010-02-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 February 2010 17:12, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: But surely foot=designated is the correct tag, particularly for tracks which explicitly ban every other mode of transport. However I should point out that highway=path foot=designated is (according to mapnik at least)

[Talk-br] Lei sobre o acesso aos dados criados por órgãos públicos

2010-02-22 Thread Arlindo Pereira
LEI Nº 11.111, DE 5 DE MAIO DE 2005. XXXIII - todos têm direito a receber dos órgãos públicos informações de seu interesse particular, ou de interesse coletivo ou geral, que serão prestadas no prazo da lei, sob pena de responsabilidade, ressalvadas aquelas cujo sigilo seja imprescindível à

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