[OSM-talk-be] Mapcenter 2

2010-03-05 Thread JL Stanus
Hello everyone. I use a GPS 60CSX. In seeking a map to my gps, I found the website http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/ It provides a cartographic database for free use and conversion. Could we use this data to enrich Osm? Thank you for your advice and light. J-L

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapcenter 2

2010-03-05 Thread Luc Van den Troost
The licence is more restrictive than the OSM use: Any Map covered by the License may be used for any personal or educational purposes without limitations, including decompilation, modification, conversion and recompilation. Any professional use (including but not limited to commercial,

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 March 2010 20:35, simon msr...@gmail.com wrote: In this case your park have to follow the coastline with the tham node (I have correct it to show you) unfortunately the water is part of the park If it was a park with water in the midle you have to use multipolygone relation

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 March 2010 20:40, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Don't use coastline but tag the basin with natural water or any other water type tags like riverbank … hmm, well if we can ignore for a moment the abomination of inconsistency that is water tagging in general and

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 March 2010 20:39, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 March 2010 17:17, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: i've recently mapped a park which contains a basin. when the tiles render, the whole area, including the water, renders green. how would i tag this so the

Re: [OSM-talk] Offline Dump of the Wiki

2010-03-05 Thread colliar
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[OSM-talk] wikipedia: towns/cities pages include a osm-direct-link

2010-03-05 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Please tell me if I am wrong !? As we are working together with wikipedia, it would be nice to include direct-links to osm or even a small part of the map to the city/town pages. I think this would be a good promotion towards osm. I am not much

Re: [OSM-talk] wikipedia: towns/cities pages include a osm-direct-link

2010-03-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Please tell me if I am wrong !? As we are working together with wikipedia, it would be nice to include direct-links to osm or even a small part of the map to the city/town pages. I think this would be a good promotion

[OSM-talk] Re : wikipedia: towns/cities pages include a osm-direct-link

2010-03-05 Thread Adrian Brain
Hi Colliar, A link is already there. If the co-ordinates of a place are given in the top right this leads to direct links to every map under the sun, and a few others too by the look of it. OpenStreetMap is already in the list, with its copyright, and a further list of osm developer projects.

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/5 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: they'd already rendered, but now someone else has drawn it incorrectly. i'll revert, use a polygon relation, and re-render haven't you stated above that the water is part of the park? The multipolygon-relation will exclude the inner from the

Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Liz wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Patrick Weber wrote: I tried Navit on Android yesterday, at least on my phone (HTC Magic) it was unusable, the map didnt update properly or follow my movements, and crashed a few times. I also could not find out

[OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Hillsman, Edward
I have a related question, which I've let sit for several months hoping to find an answer for. There is a park here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.8394lon=-82.5924zoom=14layers=B000FTF that includes wetland islands, wetland mainland, and dry mainland. Initially I could not get any of it

[OSM-talk] Announce: Gosmore Earth

2010-03-05 Thread Nic Roets
I'm pleased to announce Gosmore Earth after more than a year of silence. Gosmore is a viewer of OSM-XML with routing and searching capabilities. Ports include Linux, Windows, Windows-Mobile and Maemo. It uses it's own binary file format that is optimized for small devices. New features include: *

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-cl] Nuevo capa / new layer

2010-03-05 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Danilo, Yo estoy usando Thuban en Ubuntu para ver los archivos Shapefile. Hay otros archivos, en este momento no recuerdo en que formato, para los cuales aun no he buscado una alternativa. Si encuentras algo para esos otros archivos, por favor avisame. Saludos, Julio Costa On Fri, Mar 5, 2010

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-05 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Main page here: [1] Already discussed one year ago, we didn't come to a standardization of the tag used to describe shops selling ice creams = proliferation of different tags today [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ice_cream signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu writes: I have a related question, which I've let sit for several months hoping to find an answer for. There is a park here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.8394lon=-82.5924zoom=14layers=B000FTF that includes wetland islands, wetland mainland, and

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
On a related issue, since a way that forms a closed loop is interpreted as the boundary of an area rather than as a way, how does one map a road or trail that forms a closed loop? --Original Message-- From: Robin Paulson Sender: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org To: OpenStreetMap talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Gosmore Earth

2010-03-05 Thread simon
I'm pleased to announce Gosmore Earth after more than a year of silence. Gosmore is a viewer of OSM-XML with routing and searching capabilities. Ports include Linux, Windows, Windows-Mobile and Maemo. It uses it's own binary file format that is optimized for small devices. Looks sweet on my

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM 3 GeoNames = GeoNames 3 OSM =)

2010-03-05 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 5 March 2010 16:28, elf Pavlik perpetual-trip...@wwelves.org wrote: Hello Everyone! I just asked on GeoNames mailing list why they don't use OSM for their map functionality. http://groups.google.com/group/geonames/t/ec02877f850cf6c7 A person named Marc responded that OSM share-alike

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Chris Hill
John F. Eldredge wrote: On a related issue, since a way that forms a closed loop is interpreted as the boundary of an area rather than as a way, how does one map a road or trail that forms a closed loop? It depends on the context. A closed loop tagged with a highway tag is just a

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile caching (osm startpage)

2010-03-05 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Hi Bernhard, all, Very interesting proposal. I think people in a position to do so should give attentive consideration to your situation, facing Internet infrastructure limitations in a developing country. (Beside your personal situation and dedication which would certainly deserve a

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 5 Mar 2010, at 24:29 , Robin Paulson wrote: On 5 March 2010 20:40, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Don't use coastline but tag the basin with natural water or any other water type tags like riverbank … hmm, well if we can ignore for a moment the abomination of

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile caching (osm startpage)

2010-03-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 March 2010 01:24, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: Google Cache Time: Cache-Control: public, max-age= //feels like one month (I didn't calculate) I'd say it's a bad idea to specify a cache time, instead there is other caching mechanisms to tell if a tile has

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM 3 GeoNames = GeoNames 3 OSM =)

2010-03-05 Thread Liz
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, elf Pavlik wrote: Hello Everyone! I just asked on GeoNames mailing list why they don't use OSM for their map functionality. http://groups.google.com/group/geonames/t/ec02877f850cf6c7 A person named Marc responded that OSM share-alike license is too restrictive. Please

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6 March 2010 01:41, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: haven't you stated above that the water is part of the park? The multipolygon-relation will exclude the inner from the outer, so IMHO this is not your desired solution... ah, yes. good point. i hadn't understood it

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6 March 2010 06:23, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't see when zoomed in to your view. clear now from low zoom. you can hack it but that is dirty tagging for the renderer. it is indeed. i'll leave it as is, and come up with some bullshit for when a casual map user asks why

[OSM-talk] cebit

2010-03-05 Thread Simone Cortesi
I have not seen this news here on the lists: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/CeBIT-2010-Linux-New-Media-Awards-presented-946907.html The jury chose OpenStreetMap as the most innovative open source project. Second place in this category with an equal number of votes was awarded to KDE and

[OSM-talk] Some measure to prevent duplicate uploads of same data ...

2010-03-05 Thread MP
While API 0.6 have implemented object versioning, preventing accidentally overwriting someone else's changes, with introduction of atomic uploads now I see many problems with duplicate data. These come often with imports of data or generally if someone uploads any new data without modifying any

Re: [OSM-talk] Some measure to prevent duplicate uploads of same data ...

2010-03-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi, On 6 March 2010 00:16, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: While API 0.6 have implemented object versioning, preventing accidentally overwriting someone else's changes, with introduction of atomic uploads now I see many problems with duplicate data. These come often with imports of data or

Re: [OSM-talk] Some measure to prevent duplicate uploads of same data ...

2010-03-05 Thread Sebastian Klein
MP wrote: While API 0.6 have implemented object versioning, preventing accidentally overwriting someone else's changes, with introduction of atomic uploads now I see many problems with duplicate data. These come often with imports of data or generally if someone uploads any new data without

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 5 Mar 2010, at 13:41 , Robin Paulson wrote: landuse? no, i didn't use that. i used leisure=park sure. ahh… our messy key,tag combinations for areas natural, landuse, leisure … and it's not a national park, only local council we still use it for parks if it's the type of parks

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-05 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Roy Wallace ha scritto: Use amenity=* for useful and important facilities. Use shop=* for a place selling a retail product or service It could be a sensible proposal, but at present state the shops where you can sit and eat (or even the take-away shops) are all tagged as amenity. The problem

[OSM-talk] Map export broken in IE/Opera

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Gregory
Exporting from the OSM slippymap. The options are not visible for either of the image options nor the HTML option. Looks OK in Firefox and Safari. Is this a good enough place to report this problem, or should I send a message or something elsewhere? It was working fine a couple of weeks ago

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile caching (osm startpage)

2010-03-05 Thread Bernhard zwischenbrugger
John Smith schrieb: On 6 March 2010 01:24, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: Google Cache Time: Cache-Control: public, max-age= //feels like one month (I didn't calculate) I'd say it's a bad idea to specify a cache time, instead there is other caching

Re: [Talk-it] Rete del TPL di Roma

2010-03-05 Thread Stefano Salvador
Fin qui tutto bello.  Poi?  Come si accede direttamente al db di OSM?  Come si fa a fare una beta per non rischiare di sputtanare tutto con qualcosa di fatto male?  Chi mi dà una mano a validare le mie scelte in termini di regole di trasposizione dei dati? ogni import di dati è una storia a

Re: [Talk-it] Rete del TPL di Roma

2010-03-05 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
ogni import di dati è una storia a se e la parte più difficile è convertire il modello dati originale nel modello OSM. Nel caso particolare la struttura delle informazioni è abbastanza articolata (nodi, way, relation, ... c'è tutto) quindi sicuramente bisogna fare delle prove. nel caso di

Re: [Talk-it] m(')appare vari

2010-03-05 Thread Carlo Stemberger
M(')appare Cologno[1]. Non è stato esattamente un successo di pubblico (solamente 3 partecipanti, di cui solo 2 attivi), ma ha permesso di iniziare la mappatura di quel comune, che fino ad allora era quasi un deserto (ora è quasi accettabile). Ciao! [1]

Re: [Talk-it] Corsi d'acqua FVG

2010-03-05 Thread iiizio iiizio
On 3/4/10, Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com wrote: Io propongo di sostituire le abbreviazioni. Per esempio nel comune di Trieste c'è il Torrente S. Antonio. Dovrebbe essere invece Torrente Sant'Antonio. Più facile a dirsi che a farsi ;-) ci penso su un attimo Soluzione di

Re: [Talk-it] m(')appare vari

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/5 Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com: M(')appare Cologno[1]. Non è stato esattamente un successo di pubblico (solamente 3 partecipanti, di cui solo 2 attivi), ma ha permesso di M(')appare Roma aveva lo stesso numero di partecipanti ;-) ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora sulle gelaterie...

2010-03-05 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Stefano Pallicca ha scritto: @Federico Cozzi: il promotore dell'iniziativa l'ho lasciato invariato, in quanto la proposta scaturì da te. Che la discussione abbia (di nuovo) inizio. Ottimo, ma hai inviato la RFC nella ml internazionale? -- Giacomo Boschi http://gwilbor.wordpress.com/

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora sulle gelaterie...

2010-03-05 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Il 05/03/2010 15:46, Giacomo Boschi ha scritto: Stefano Pallicca ha scritto: Che la discussione abbia (di nuovo) inizio. Ottimo, ma hai inviato la RFC nella ml internazionale? Sì (pochi secondi prima di intervenire su quella italiana) ma vedo che non è ancora comparsa in

Re: [Talk-it] Ancora sulle gelaterie...

2010-03-05 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Giacomo Boschi ha scritto: Ottimo, ma hai inviato la RFC nella ml internazionale? Ok vista :-) -- Giacomo Boschi http://gwilbor.wordpress.com/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

[Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread brunetto
ovvero... uno spazio aperto, disponibile a giochi e attività varie, magari pure dotato di porte e reti da basket o da pallavolo, ma asfaltato? ad esempio alcuni patronati o cose simili... prima di accorgermi che recreation_ground richiede l'erba li avevo taggati così, ma essendo asfaltati, cosa

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/3/5 brunetto brunetto.zi...@gmail.com: ovvero... uno spazio aperto, disponibile a giochi e attività varie, magari pure dotato di porte e reti da basket o da pallavolo, ma asfaltato? ad esempio alcuni patronati o cose simili... prima di accorgermi che recreation_ground richiede l'erba li

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread brunetto
Il 05 marzo 2010 16.36, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: 2010/3/5 brunetto : ovvero... uno spazio aperto, disponibile a giochi e attività varie, magari pure dotato di porte e reti da basket o da pallavolo, ma asfaltato? ad esempio alcuni patronati o cose simili... prima di accorgermi che

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/3/5 brunetto brunetto.zi...@gmail.com: se non ho capito male pitch è il campo da gioco... questi son più spazi aperti disponibili per diverse attività... uno spazio asfaltato Per diverse attività cosa intendi: una cosa che non è uno sport ma è comunque un gioco (es. mosca cieca, bandiera

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread brunetto
Il 05 marzo 2010 16.53, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: 2010/3/5 brunetto : se non ho capito male pitch è il campo da gioco... questi son più spazi aperti disponibili per diverse attività... uno spazio asfaltato Per diverse attività cosa intendi: una cosa che non è uno sport ma è comunque un

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/5 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2010/3/5 brunetto brunetto.zi...@gmail.com: ovvero... uno spazio aperto, disponibile a giochi e attività varie, magari pure dotato di porte e reti da basket o da pallavolo, ma asfaltato? ad esempio alcuni patronati o cose simili... prima di

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread brunetto
Il 05 marzo 2010 17.26, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: +1, si per il campo da basket mettrei questo (insieme allo sport). Per tutta l'area propongo highway=pedestrian area=yes poi potresti aggiungere leisure=recreation_ground per l'asfalto: surface=tarmac (o quello che è) quindi alla

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread Giacomo Boschi
brunetto ha scritto: quindi alla fine posso usare recreation_ground con superficie asfaltata anche se nella desrizione si parla di aree verdi? No, andrebbe modificato prima il senso del tag, che tra l'altro è sotto landuse e non leisure. Poi su OSM puoi fare come ti pare, puoi anche

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread Federico Cozzi
2010/3/5 brunetto brunetto.zi...@gmail.com: quindi alla fine posso usare recreation_ground con superficie asfaltata anche se nella desrizione si parla di aree verdi? Io invece userei pitch per tutta l'area e non metterei sport (o al massimo sport=multi che è previsto e non vuol dire niente...)

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread brunetto
Il 05 marzo 2010 17.55, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: 2010/3/5 brunetto : quindi alla fine posso usare recreation_ground con superficie asfaltata anche se nella desrizione si parla di aree verdi? Io invece userei pitch per tutta l'area e non metterei sport Quello che descrivi tu non mi sembra

Re: [Talk-it] come taggo un recreation_ground asfaltato?

2010-03-05 Thread Giacomo Boschi
brunetto ha scritto: è vero che in OSM si può taggare come si vuole, ma se vogliamo andare avanti forse è meglio mettersi d'accordo e andare tutti nella stesssa direzione, più o meno!:-P Parole sante! -- Giacomo Boschi http://gwilbor.wordpress.com/

Re: [Talk-it] Corsi d'acqua FVG

2010-03-05 Thread Stefano Salvador
Le righe hanno questo formato: tag k='name' v='Rio S. Antonio' / Propongo: ... grazie a tutti per i suggerimenti, alla fine ho scoperto che i nomi con questo problema erano 49, quindi li ho sistemati a mano senza impazzire con correzioni euristiche (ne ho già fatte abbastanza per questo

Re: [Talk-it] Corsi d'acqua FVG

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/5 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com: grazie a tutti per i suggerimenti, alla fine ho scoperto che i nomi con questo problema erano 49, quindi li ho sistemati a mano ... Domani scarico le waterway esistenti come suggerisce iiizio poi procedo al caricamento. ottimo. Grazie a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSM 3 GeoNames = GeoNames 3 OSM =)

2010-03-05 Thread Liz
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, elf Pavlik wrote: Hello Everyone! I just asked on GeoNames mailing list why they don't use OSM for their map functionality. http://groups.google.com/group/geonames/t/ec02877f850cf6c7 A person named Marc responded that OSM share-alike license is too restrictive. Please

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] OSM 3 GeoNames = GeoNames 3 OSM =)

2010-03-05 Thread Rob Myers
On 05/03/10 20:16, Liz wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, elf Pavlik wrote: Hello Everyone! I just asked on GeoNames mailing list why they don't use OSM for their map functionality. http://groups.google.com/group/geonames/t/ec02877f850cf6c7 A person named Marc responded that OSM share-alike

[OSM-talk-nl] Probleem met mapnik rendering voor EPSG:28992

2010-03-05 Thread Just van den Broecke
Hallo, Ik probeer tiles te renderen met Mapnik in NL projectie 28992 (ja met de goede proj setting!). Alles lijkt goed te gaan. Via TileCache met Mapnik backend worden tiles gegenereerd. Deze kloppen exact met andere 28992 bronnen qua extent/resolutie opgegeven in tilecache.cfg/OpenLayers.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Probleem met mapnik rendering voor EPSG:28992

2010-03-05 Thread Lennard
Just van den Broecke wrote: Ik vermoed ergens een mismatch tussen projecties/extents in osm.xml (mijn Map is srs28992) en datasource extent is 2.307,50.134,8.752,54.087 met PG data in 4326) of moeten de world_boundaries een herprojectie naar 28992 krijgen ? Iemand enig idee ? Bedankt en

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Probleem met mapnik rendering voor EPSG:28992

2010-03-05 Thread Just van den Broecke
Lennard wrote: Just van den Broecke wrote: Ik vermoed ergens een mismatch tussen projecties/extents in osm.xml (mijn Map is srs28992) en datasource extent is 2.307,50.134,8.752,54.087 met PG data in 4326) of moeten de world_boundaries een herprojectie naar 28992 krijgen ? Iemand enig

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Probleem met mapnik rendering voor EPSG:28992

2010-03-05 Thread Lennard
Just van den Broecke wrote: Dit en Map zijn de enige plekken waar 28992 wordt gebruikt. Tilecache zal iets soortgelijks doen (gaat via WMS 28992 request). Na een kort overleg op irc, komen we tot de conclusie dat dit waarschijnlijk gerelateerd is aan http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/308. Met

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Probleem met mapnik rendering voor EPSG:28992

2010-03-05 Thread Just van den Broecke
Ja dit is precies waar ik net mee bezig ging: clippen naar RD extent en dan herprojecteren. Iets als ogr2ogr -f ESRI Shapefile -s_srs EPSG:... -t_srs EPSG:28992 -spat ${extent} ${dstShp} ${srcShp} Bedankt voor de hulp alvast! Ik laat weten hoe dit verder verloopt. groet, Just van den Broecke

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Probleem met mapnik rendering voor EPSG:28992

2010-03-05 Thread Just van den Broecke
Ja dit was het probleem en dus idd op te lossen door de world_boundaries shapes te clippen/herprojecteren. Bijv. met ogr2ogr -f ESRI Shapefile -s_srs EPSG:3785 -t_srs EPSG:28992 -spat 311523.765594493 6555476.44574815 822461.515529216 7160903.43417988 processed_p_nl.shp processed_p.shp

Re: [talk-au] more broken boundaries

2010-03-05 Thread Neil Penman
It would be useful to have access to a layer showing boundaries sourced externally as they were when originally loaded. That way the current boundary state can always be compared with the original. However the below email is a bit cryptic for me.  How are boundaries getting broken?  One of the

Re: [talk-au] more broken boundaries

2010-03-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 March 2010 08:09, Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be useful to have access to a layer showing boundaries sourced externally as they were when originally loaded. That way the current boundary state can always be compared with the original. However the below email is a

Re: [talk-au] more broken boundaries

2010-03-05 Thread Liz
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Neil Penman wrote: One of the attached changesets indicates that the purpose was to separate administrative boundaries from roads, whereas recently I have been tagging administrative boundaries with keys for highways or waterways that follow the same course. Is there a

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station datase

2010-03-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 March 2010 16:07, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also guessing that amenity:express should rather be tagged as shop:convenience which is closer to the OSM tagging convention. I have no strong opinion either way, that's just how it appears in the BP CSV file.

[talk-au] Trunk roads in central Australia

2010-03-05 Thread John Smith
I may be wrong here, but it just seems wrong to me that these roads are marked as trunk: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-24.5503234863281lon=132.173767089844zoom=9 Except for the Stuart Highway, I'm guessing, but shouldn't they be primary or secondary?

Re: [Talk-br] Key:place

2010-03-05 Thread Rodrigo Avila
Em 4 de março de 2010 23:41, Flávio Henrique yoshi...@gmail.com escreveu:  pois em certos municípios do brasil teríamos varias villages, e não seria possível definir qual a sede do município. Qual o impacto disso no osm? Até o presente momento não vi onde estas informações influenciam no

Re: [Talk-br] Key:place

2010-03-05 Thread Flavio Bello Fialho
Para quem usa o mapa, o que interessa é o tamanho da cidade. Não faz sentido Guarulhos/SP e Campinas/SP, ambas com mais de 1 milhão de habitantes, terem a mesma classificação que Borá/SP ou Serra da Saudade/MG, ambas com menos de 1000. Sugiro que fique como está: city 100.000 (273 municípios)

Re: [Talk-br] Key:place

2010-03-05 Thread Flávio Henrique
Pessoal, desculpe se a pergunta já foi respondida ou parecer sem noção, mas eu ainda não sei qual a diferença no mapa ou para quem pesquisa, se um node é classificado como city, town, etc. Alguém poderia me esclarecer se há diferença visual? Resumindo, a classificação influencia em quê? (não

Re: [Talk-br] Key:place

2010-03-05 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Lembre-se de uma das regras de ouro do OSM, não taguear para o renderizador :) No Mapnik, faz diferença no tamanho da letra utilizada e em qual será mostrada em baixos níveis de zoom. []s Em 5 de março de 2010 14:59, Flávio Henrique yoshi...@gmail.com escreveu: Pessoal, desculpe se a pergunta

Re: [Talk-br] Key:place

2010-03-05 Thread Aun Johnsen
mas como voce tem duas cidades perto (city), por inquanto Mapnik render so um deles no zoom pequeno (8), e os duas no zoom mais alto (14). Tags como population= e capital= poder ser no futuro alterar este, como o cidade mais grande ou o capital ganha prioridade do render. A 2010/3/5 Alexandre

Re: [Talk-br] Key:place

2010-03-05 Thread Flávio Henrique
Ok. Entendi. Obrigado pessoal. Flávio Henrique 2010/3/5 Alexandre Parente Lima alexandre.pare...@gmail.com A diferença esta na renderização do nome do local. (tamanho da fonte) Citytownvilagehalmet Outra diferença é em que plano ele é renderizado. (zoom) Mais ou menos assim: *city*

Re: [Talk-de] Micro-Mapping

2010-03-05 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, +1 auch ich finde die relative Genauigkeit im Sinne der Lage der Objekte zueinander wichtiger als die absolute Genauigkeit, die man zwar anstreben, aber nicht von vornherein als Bedingung voraussetzen sollte. Auch nur 'relativ genaue' - im Meterbereich - Gebäudeumrisse können -

[Talk-de] Anfänger-Frage zum vorhandenen Mappin g der Insel Lindau und des Bodensees

2010-03-05 Thread Andreas Braunmiller
Grüß Euch, beim Betrachten der Insel Lindau (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.54673lon=9.68428zoom=16layers=B000FTF) sind mir zwei Dinge aufgefallen: - Die Umrisse der Insel selbst sind nicht - wie ich erwartet hätte - als inner-Teil eines Multipolygons markiert, sondern über den

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Gewinnt Linux New Media Award

2010-03-05 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Frederik Ramm schrieb: I am just a mapper, but I come in peace Der Spruch gefällt mir - trug er bereits ein entsprechendes Oberbekleidungsstück, oder darf ich den Slogan zusammen mit dem OSM Logo auf ein Shirt drucken? (Bei einer evtl. Merchandising-Aktion falle ich voraussichtlich eh

[Talk-de] Info: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live

2010-03-05 Thread Oliver Kuehn (skobbler)
Hallo, ich wollte nur kurz bescheid geben, dass skobbler auf Basis von OSM gestern live gegangen ist. Heute folgt noch die Pressemitteilung. Als Routing-Engine benutzen wir den CloudMade-Service. Die Kartendarstellung während der Navigation ist unsere Eigenentwicklung. Ärgerlich ist, dass der

Re: [Talk-de] GPX-Files bearbeiten

2010-03-05 Thread dieter jasper
Am 05.03.2010 00:42, schrieb Dimitri Junker: Hallo, kann mir jemand ein Programm zum bearbeiten von GPX-Files nennen? Ich habe einige ausprobiert und nichts vernünftiges gefunden. Was ich brauche ist: -Entfernen von Müll (Punktwolken) -mehrere gpx-Files zusammenfügen u.ä. Dimitri

Re: [Talk-de] GPX-Files bearbeiten

2010-03-05 Thread dieter jasper
Am 05.03.2010 00:42, schrieb Dimitri Junker: Hallo, kann mir jemand ein Programm zum bearbeiten von GPX-Files nennen? Ich habe einige ausprobiert und nichts vernünftiges gefunden. Was ich brauche ist: -Entfernen von Müll (Punktwolken) -mehrere gpx-Files zusammenfügen u.ä. Dimitri

Re: [Talk-de] GPX-Files bearbeiten

2010-03-05 Thread Susanne Wunsch
Hallo Simon, kann mir jemand ein Programm zum bearbeiten von GPX-Files nennen? Ich habe einige ausprobiert und nichts vernünftiges gefunden. Was ich brauche ist: -Entfernen von Müll (Punktwolken) -mehrere gpx-Files zusammenfügen u.ä. Wie wäre es mit QLandkarteGT? Das kann noch viel mehr

Re: [Talk-de] Anfänger-Frage zum vorhandenen Mapping der Insel Lindau und des Bodensees

2010-03-05 Thread Georg Feddern
Moin, Andreas Braunmiller schrieb: Grüß Euch, beim Betrachten der Insel Lindau (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.54673lon=9.68428zoom=16layers=B000FTF) sind mir zwei Dinge aufgefallen: - Die Umrisse der Insel selbst sind nicht - wie ich erwartet hätte - als inner-Teil eines

Re: [Talk-de] GPX-Files bearbeiten

2010-03-05 Thread Susanne Wunsch
Hallo Simon, Sorry, zu schnell getippt, das war ein anderes Reply. ;-) sed/Simon/Dimitri Liebe Grüße... Susanne ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] problem mit wput

2010-03-05 Thread Gary G:
hi, habe logging noch nicht angeschaltet und noch nicht experimentiert... evtl. kennt jemand das problem bzw. idealerweise die lösung. habe eine intakte pdf datei und schiebe sie mit wput auf meinen server. dort angekommen ist sie kaputt, trotzdem die korrekte größe angezeigt wird und sie

Re: [Talk-de] Info: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Simon
Am 5. März 2010 09:45 schrieb Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de: Probleme gibt es unter Umständen auch noch in der Advisordarstellung, wenn an einer T-Kreuzung Abbiegespuren eingezeichnet wurden, dann wird anstatt einer T-Kreuzung erstmal eine V-Kreuzung dargstellt. Hier ist ein

Re: [Talk-de] Info: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live

2010-03-05 Thread olvagor
Moin, Am 05.03.2010 09:45, schrieb Oliver Kuehn (skobbler): Jochen Topf wird heute auf der FOSSGIS einen neuen Routing-Layer im OSM-Inspektor vorstellen, der von uns gesponsored wurde. Dieser zeigt Probleme von potentiell nicht verbundenen Wegen sowie redundant übereinander liegenden Wegen

Re: [Talk-de] Info: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live

2010-03-05 Thread Oliver Kuehn (skobbler)
Probleme gibt es unter Umständen auch noch in der Advisordarstellung, wenn an einer T-Kreuzung Abbiegespuren eingezeichnet wurden, dann wird anstatt einer T-Kreuzung erstmal eine V-Kreuzung dargstellt. Hier ist ein Beispiel, wo die Husarenstraße zum Linksabbiegen auf die

Re: [Talk-de] Info: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live

2010-03-05 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:50:46AM +0100, olvagor wrote: Am 05.03.2010 09:45, schrieb Oliver Kuehn (skobbler): Jochen Topf wird heute auf der FOSSGIS einen neuen Routing-Layer im OSM-Inspektor vorstellen, der von uns gesponsored wurde. Dieser zeigt Probleme von potentiell nicht verbundenen

Re: [Talk-de] problem mit wput

2010-03-05 Thread Walter Nordmann
nimm mal binary. kenn ich noch vom guten alten ftp. bedeutet eigentlich: kopiere das file genau so rüber ohne auch nur ein bit zu ändern gruss wambacher, der sich jetzt zur kaffeemaschine kopiert ;-) - Der Fehler tritt nicht sporadisch sondern nur ab und zu auf - Fehlermeldung eines DAUS

Re: [Talk-de] Info: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. März 2010 10:38 schrieb Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com: Am 5. März 2010 09:45 schrieb Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de: Probleme gibt es unter Umständen auch noch in der Advisordarstellung, wenn an einer T-Kreuzung Abbiegespuren eingezeichnet wurden, dann wird anstatt

[Talk-de] Relation so korrekt erstellt ? (Besonders osmc:symbol)

2010-03-05 Thread fuddel26
Hallo,   habe nach einer existierenden Rel. gesucht, keine gefunden, so habe ich diese erstellt   442671   Im Nachhinen bin ich mir nicht sicher ob ich besonders die Zeile osmc:symbol richtig gemacht habe.   osmc:name Pfälzerwald Wanderweg Grün-Gelbes Kreuz (Oberbexbach - Ludwigshafen a.

Re: [Talk-de] Micro-Mapping

2010-03-05 Thread Jonas Stein
Bevor ich Vermessungswerkzeuge heraushole, was kann ich noch tun? Ich gehe wenn moeglich einen Track immer auch der rechten Strassenseite und zwar hin und zurueck. Daraus ergibt sich ein Schlauch, in dessen Mitte die Nodes kommen. Dadurch werden sehr viele Stoerungen durch Reflektionen etc.

[Talk-de] Linienbündel / Kreuzungsmapping (was : skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live)

2010-03-05 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Da könnte man doch analog zu highway=service, service=parking_aisle einfach service=korrekte engl. Bezeichnung taggen. Damit könnte die routing-engine diese Stückchen erkennen und eventuell auch bevorzugen, da die Ampelanlage umgangen werden kann. soweit ich das verstanden habe geht es um

Re: [Talk-de] Relation so korrekt erstellt ? (Besonders osmc:symbol)

2010-03-05 Thread Andre Joost
fudde...@freenet.de schrieb: Hallo, habe nach einer existierenden Rel. gesucht, keine gefunden, so habe ich diese erstellt 442671 Im Nachhinen bin ich mir nicht sicher ob ich besonders die Zeile osmc:symbol richtig gemacht habe. osmc:name Pfälzerwald Wanderweg Grün-Gelbes Kreuz

Re: [Talk-de] Linienbündel / Kreuzungsmapping (was : skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live)

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 5. März 2010 14:30 schrieb Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net: Service ist so ein Stück m.E. in den seltensten Fällen. Das ist leider die bekannte Linienbündel-Diskussion. nö, es geht hier um die Frage, ob eine Abbiegespur mit Service getaggt werden sollte. M.E. nicht. Gruß Martin PS:

[Talk-de] Übersicht der gemeldeteten Bugs von skob bler-Nutzern (was: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live)

2010-03-05 Thread Oliver Kuehn (skobbler)
Hallo, hier ist noch mal ein Link, wo man (ungefiltert) die gemeldeten Bugs über den skobbler-Rückkanal einsehen kann: http://beta.skobbler.de/osmbugs Sobald wir sicherstellen können, dass wir die relevanten und richtigen Fehler herausfiltern können, werden wir diese direkt an OpenStreetBugs

Re: [Talk-de] Übersicht der gemeldeteten Bugs von skob bler-Nutzern (was: skobbler-Update mit OSM ist live )

2010-03-05 Thread FlaBot
Wenn die dann auch einer abarbeitet ... Am 5. März 2010 15:28 schrieb Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de: Hallo, hier ist noch mal ein Link, wo man (ungefiltert) die gemeldeten Bugs über den skobbler-Rückkanal einsehen kann: http://beta.skobbler.de/osmbugs Sobald wir

Re: [Talk-de] Übersicht der gemeldeteten Bugs von skob bler-Nutzern

2010-03-05 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo, Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) schrieb: hier ist noch mal ein Link, wo man (ungefiltert) die gemeldeten Bugs über den skobbler-Rückkanal einsehen kann: http://beta.skobbler.de/osmbugs Ich habe mir mal exemplarisch ein paar Meldungen in meiner Gegend angesehen. Ist es evtl. möglich, auch

Re: [Talk-de] Übersicht der gemeldeteten Bugs von skob bler-Nutzern

2010-03-05 Thread olvagor
Am 05.03.2010 15:28, schrieb Oliver Kuehn (skobbler): hier ist noch mal ein Link, wo man (ungefiltert) die gemeldeten Bugs über den skobbler-Rückkanal einsehen kann: http://beta.skobbler.de/osmbugs Sobald wir sicherstellen können, dass wir die relevanten und richtigen Fehler herausfiltern

Re: [Talk-de] Übersicht der gemeldeteten Bugs von sk obbler-Nutzern

2010-03-05 Thread Jonas Krückel
Am 05.03.2010 um 15:41 schrieb Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR): Hallo, Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) schrieb: hier ist noch mal ein Link, wo man (ungefiltert) die gemeldeten Bugs über den skobbler-Rückkanal einsehen kann: http://beta.skobbler.de/osmbugs Ich habe mir mal exemplarisch

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