[OSM-talk-fr] Fédération des pros d'OSM
Bonsoir, Je viens de publier [ce billet de journal OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeverinGeo/diary/401231) en lien avec un point à l'ordre du jour la semaine prochaine lors de la réunion mensuelle du Conseil d’administration de la Fondation OpenStreetMap concernant le projet "Fédération des pros d'OSM". Pour celles et ceux qui ne seraient pas au fait de la marque déposée OpenStreetMap, [voici le lien](https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy) vers la page concernée sur le site de la Fondation OSM. Bon WE, Séverin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] Fédé des pros d'OSM, la fausse bonne idée / OSM pros' federation, the wrong, good idea
Bonjour, J'ai lu hier soir l'ordre du jour de la prochaine réunion du conseil d'administration de l'OSMF jeudi, et je viens de publier ceci : https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeverinGeo/diary/401231 Séverin Hello, I read last night the agenda for the next OSMF board meeting on Thursday, and I just posted this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeverinGeo/diary/401231 Séverin___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)
Quoting collapses ... so I ll answer directly. You asked: Would it make sense to document any of ... And yeah, I would document these and put them into "material=" for the record. If something in a foreign language is "paved" then they missed the point of OSM and its standards. Best one can do, be sceptical, keep it on record but downgrade it and hope some one encountering the wrong designation will correct it. Just my opinion on a workable solution. Yes, you are right "sett" would be more appropriate. I have barely seen actual cobblestones in Germany. On the reruns I don't really have an opinion. You will probably already correct many instances. No idea whether it makes sense to actually rerun, or just wait for the next editor to do this job. Cheers, Klaus On 25/03/2023 09:28, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Mar 24, 2023, 22:33 by facebook_140f8d4e-9d8f-4d51-a5a7-320f53afc...@vollbio.de: Hi Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Here some answers: 1. This first part makes sense to me. Thanks! 2. Regarding your questions to document previous values, I would propose to use "material=..." as mentioned under: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#See_also which "previous values" you mean? 3. "tierra" and "terra" ... the answer is obvious: "ground". 4. Also, for other languages, which are not clear, I would use the "material=..." key and just put "surface=unpaved", to be on the safe side. If unclear, I will just not touch it (especially as some unclear may describe paved surface) 5. Btw. I saw some German word: holz=>wood, schotter=>gravel, verdichtet=>paved (it means "compacted"), Gras/Laub=>grass, pflasterstein=>cobblestones Could surface=verdichtet be actually surface=compacted? Is surface=pflasterstein a surface=cobblestone (underdefined one) or can it be assumed to be in every single case surface=sett or surface=unhewn_cobblestone ? See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcobblestone I added # translating German 'holz': 'wood', 'schotter': 'gravel', 'Gras_Laub': 'grass', to candidate list for the next one (I will also review is any of them typically wrong - using aerial images - and is connected to any obvious issues not already automatically detectable) 6. Regarding regular reruns of this, I would put some quality gates into that, like: * Were previous automatic corrections reverted and why? * Does a certain type reoccur often and why? * Do new categories appear and should they become official? I inspect some sample of bot edits and before I run it I get info how many will be changed - so in case of large volume of cases (re)appearing I would investigate what is going on. I am also monitoring PMs and changeset comments on bot account - and I think that someone thinking that it made a bad edit would write. Does it seem enough for you? (I can also run this edit once and once enough new or repeated cases gather then appear here again with similar listing) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)
sent from a phone > On 24 Mar 2023, at 22:35, > facebook_140f8d4e-9d8f-4d51-a5a7-320f53afc...@vollbio.de wrote: > > Btw. I saw some German word: holz=>wood, schotter=>gravel, verdichtet=>paved > (it means "compacted"), Gras/Laub=>grass, pflasterstein=>cobblestones verdichtet is actually „unpaved“ (compacted) and pflasterstein is usually sett, sometimes paving_stones but hard ever cobblestones ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)
Mar 24, 2023, 22:33 by facebook_140f8d4e-9d8f-4d51-a5a7-320f53afc...@vollbio.de: > > Hi > > > Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Here some answers: > > This first part makes sense to me. > Thanks! > Regarding your questions to document previous values, I wouldpropose > to use "material=..." as mentioned under: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#See_also > which "previous values" you mean? > "tierra" and "terra" ... the answer is obvious: "ground". > Also, for other languages, which are not clear, I would usethe > "material=..." key and just put "surface=unpaved", to be onthe safe > side. > If unclear, I will just not touch it (especially as some unclear may describe paved surface) > Btw. I saw some German word: holz=>wood,schotter=>gravel, > verdichtet=>paved (it means"compacted"), Gras/Laub=>grass, > pflasterstein=>cobblestones > Could surface=verdichtet be actually surface=compacted? Is surface=pflasterstein a surface=cobblestone (underdefined one) or can it be assumed to be in every single case surface=sett or surface=unhewn_cobblestone ? See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface%3Dcobblestone I added # translating German 'holz': 'wood', 'schotter': 'gravel', 'Gras_Laub': 'grass', to candidate list for the next one (I will also review is any of them typically wrong - using aerial images - and is connected to any obvious issues not already automatically detectable) > Regarding regular reruns of this, I would put some qualitygates into > that, like: > Were previous automatic corrections reverted and why? > Does a certain type reoccur often and why? > Do new categories appear and should they become official? > I inspect some sample of bot edits and before I run it I get info how many will be changed - so in case of large volume of cases (re)appearing I would investigate what is going on. I am also monitoring PMs and changeset comments on bot account - and I think that someone thinking that it made a bad edit would write. Does it seem enough for you? (I can also run this edit once and once enough new or repeated cases gather then appear here again with similar listing) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)
>> This scripts exist already, and were writtenmultiple times already >> one more would not change much >> > > @Mateusz: Any help regarding the script would be greatly appreciated. I > have worked with databases before (PostgreSQL, MySQL, SAS) and am aware > of the pitfalls. > > > Best, Klaus > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account#Active_tasks lists my bot edits, what includes source code ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
