Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

2008-04-20 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Major non-interstate highways that have traffic light free multi-level junctions etc should be tagged as 'trunk' and possibly also be rendered orange but with less grand route numbers to differentiate them from interstate

[OSM-talk] Higway tag wiki

2008-04-20 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I've been working on other projects lately and not been following the latest discussions. While responding to a recent discussion on the mailing list I noticed that there is a lot of duplication between http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Highway_tag_usage and

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway tagging in the USA

2008-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Martin
What you have on the highway tag (which I may move to a usage page) looks fine to me. I couldn't give you an opinion on how to apply them to roads in California because I've never been in that state. I drove a truck for awhile in the US and there are quite a few roads that won't fit nicely into

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Martin
How am I supposed to do bus stops? If two bus stops are on opposite sides of the road then I think maybe they can share a node? I found in some email that you can make little short service links. I don't like that. The bus pulls over to the side of the road where I'm at. Sometimes they aren't

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I think OSM should stay away from direct recommendations. However, I could see OSM providing a forum for users to give their own personal recommendations. I think the problem with user reviews is that few users have access to many different products. If you are writing for a car magazine then

[OSM-talk] bus stop tagging

2008-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Where there are two bus stop shelters directly across the street from each other can they share a node? If I do that then I need a way to indicate the direction of each stop for the destination information. If I put a separate node for each one then I need to indicate the side of the road. --

Re: [OSM-talk] bus stop tagging

2008-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Martin
a shelter on one side of the road, but the bus also stops across the street where there is no shelter shelter=left destination:left=Shinli destination:right=Daehwa On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where there are two bus stop shelters directly across

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Martin
google email brings up ads related to your email This one came up for a waterproof pda: http://www.durateq.com/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Stephen Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's just as important to have a list of models NOT to buy. Of course, this may get us into trouble

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
with the location of over 350,000 bus stops with their names and the name of the associated street. I know the people but it might be better if it came from someone else, possibly from the foundation? Regards, Peter Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:03:14 +0900 From: Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
or make some kind of association they can do that. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 9:06 AM To: Peter Miller Cc: talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Stops

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
: Jeffrey Martin wrote: I've made a decision for what I am going to do. If I wait until there is some standard way it will be a hassle to find all these stops later instead of putting them in now with all the other data, and I might loose my little scraps of paper

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:48 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/2008 19:57, Laurence Penney wrote: I quite liked my Nokia N70 + BlueGPS (Sirf3, non-logging) + nmea_info.py combo. So much so that I bought another BlueGPS when I left my first one on a train in a good position

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
It works for me also. I usually get 8m in Korea. I just have no idea if that is good or not. I don't think WAAS makes a difference here. I see no difference if it's turned on or off. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/2008, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
when someone puts one of their chips in a device. I bet that could make a lot of difference. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Martin wrote: Sent: 24 April 2008 10

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Does the project have any long term plans on how to deal with vandalism? Should some features be locked? Do we need some kind of hierarchy with block captains and country coordinators? (I don't want that.) On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be

Re: [OSM-talk] Meaning of

2008-04-30 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Some things I have read on the internet say that in some jurisdictions it may not be possible to place things in the public domain. There are two big problems I've read about. (You might want to move this to OSM-legal.) First is that someone can include public domain material in their own work

[OSM-talk] clipboard on handlebars

2008-05-01 Thread Jeffrey Martin
When I got home some of my notes for my waypoints didn't make sense. I realized I was trying to take note only every third or forth waypoint and misremembering them. Sometimes the simple solution is the answer. I grapped some big clips from the office and a folder with a lever action clip. I bent

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-03 Thread Jeffrey Martin
When I download in JOSM I would like each track to be a separate layer. I find it helpful when working with my own tracks to make them different colors or turn individual tracks on and off. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 May 2008, at 16:58, Sven

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-03 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I have few track where on part is good and another part is bad. I should probably edit those tracks and cut out the bad part, but I haven't found an easy way to do that. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Sven GrĂ¼ner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Newman schrieb: Or maybe the tracks need a

Re: [OSM-talk] TIGER mapping party

2008-05-08 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Why are there so many problems with the TIGER data? Where do the extra roads come from? Are they planned roads? Will they be releasing new data? What happens then? On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SteveC wrote: I and others have been doing a lot of

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering

2008-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Martin
The rendering should be separate from the data. Marking a hiking trail as an autobahn so it will be a different color or be visible on higher zoom levels I think we all agree is wrong. Provided the data is correct, I don't see a problem with altering the way data is collected and recorded to make

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering

2008-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Maybe what we need are some guidelines for making tags. You can make any tag you want, but here are some general principals about what makes a good key and what makes good values for those keys. At the very least we would have a framework for discussion. Someone type something up on the wiki.

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering

2008-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Typos in real words are easier to detect than a mistake in entering a number. On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:45 AM, elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 May 2008, at 12:21, Dave Stubbs wrote: The mapping to numbers doesn't gain us anything. It doesn't let us do anything we can't already

[OSM-talk] street traits

2008-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I was thinking about classifying roads in Korea. What criteria am I using when I put a road in a classification? I'm starting to think that my support of the current use of the highway tag was misguided. Maybe we should be more specific. I know some people say they don't want to be stringing

Re: [OSM-talk] street traits

2008-05-09 Thread Jeffrey Martin
, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about classifying roads in Korea. What criteria am I using when I put a road in a classification? I'm starting to think that my support of the current use of the highway tag was misguided. Maybe we should be more specific

Re: [OSM-talk] Unknown road classifications

2008-05-11 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When adding roads, you don't always know what classification of road it is (e.g. primary, secondary, tertiary, unclassified, etc). Quite a lot of people seem to add these sorts of roads as highway=unclassified, with the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-12 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I'm very far from this in Korea, but I would guess in time some parts of the UK will need to be rechecked at some point. How can we make a system for rechecking an area? Maybe the completeness should be retired after a period of time. -- http://bowlad.com

[OSM-talk] Mapping distant objects by triangulation.

2008-05-12 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I couldn't find the other thread on this topic. How do you map an object, like a tower on top of a mountain, that you don't have access to without expensive survey equipment? My thought is to use a plumb bob to line up the unknown object with some known objects. I would find something like a

[OSM-talk] layers or multiple databases or datasets

2008-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Martin
There was some post about tree information and another one about business hours. Maybe there should be more than one dataset? One just for streets and the things you would find on a typical navigation unit, and others with other stuff? Just a random thought. -- http://bowlad.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Don't you just hate it when part 2...

2008-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Don't have that problem in South Korea. There are lots of English teaching jobs here if any mappers map the unmapped. -Jeff On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Jun 2008, at 23:35, Nick Whitelegg wrote: On Sunday 08 Jun 2008 22:35, you wrote: yes! I do

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I'm using gmail. The way I read my user agreement google pretty much has the right to do anything they want with any information I give them. For that reason I'm careful not to put anything really important in my emails. I'm guessing that google would have the rights to the aggregate mapping data

Re: [OSM-talk] High-Precision GPS Survey Equipment?

2008-08-26 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Tim Waters (chippy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just to give a hint at what is possible, the company I work for flagship receiver (L1/L2 dual frequency) can achieve sub-cm accuracy for static

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

2009-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I haven't been participating for awhile, but wasn't some committee going to come up with a solution? Ideally there would be separate tagging systems for all the different classes of information, e.g. surface type, width, number of lanes; route numbers and codes, government classification,

Re: [OSM-talk] Beijing weekend

2008-09-22 Thread Jeffrey Martin
There has been some discussion on this list before about the law against collecting geographic data in China. 2008/9/23 Hiroshi Miura [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have a chance to go to Beining this weekend. There will be mapping chance this Saturday morning. One idea is that I have a chance

Re: [OSM-talk] vandolism on OSM

2008-10-03 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, vegard wrote: But we'll need a more permanent measure against vandalism. Something that'll make it easy to reverse things. We have some good changes in store with API 0.6. An idea I've had, is to add

Re: [OSM-talk] vandolism on OSM

2008-10-03 Thread Jeffrey Martin
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Barnett, Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vegard wrote: But we'll need a more permanent measure against vandalism. Something that'll make it easy to reverse things. But note that our

[OSM-talk] firefox upload utility

2008-10-20 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I just saw this upload utility for Firefox. It looks like something cool to add to the website. http://www.fireuploader.com/#fupHome ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Foundation acknowledged as non-profit?

2009-02-05 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I think most international organizations create a branch in each country and then you can just donate to your local branch. The branch in each country can then pay dues to the international organization or in some cases the international body can provide funding for projects in the local

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Political Change

2008-05-11 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I agree with the judgment. You can't make a derivative work without permission. OSM and other open source projects give people permission to create derivative works provided they follow the license rules. If they could make derivative works without permission then there would be no way to require

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Political Change

2008-05-11 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I just read through http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FCAFC/2008/71.html In 128 the appellate court is saying that they did not copy facts, but instead they copied the guide created by Nine, because the aggregatators had pretty much copied the guide created by nine. In 123 Ice is saying

Re: [Talk-GB] wrist straps

2007-08-19 Thread Jeffrey Martin
shop=wrist strap On 8/20/07, Steve Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a convert to mapping with photos and getting JOSM to match them to the GPS trace. Now where can I get wrist straps for my cameras? Call me tight but ebay is a bit excessive at 3-4 quid per strap (including postage).

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a B road still a B road?

2008-05-04 Thread Jeffrey Martin
In the US the old Route 66 is marked with little historical signs. You can drive basically the same route as Route 66 by driving on other highways, it's just not officially Route 66 anymore. Are you talking about roads you can drive or roads which are gone? On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Mike

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Maybe we want different policies for different areas and different kinds of data. For example once all the roads are mapped we freeze the roads, but we allow free changing of street names until they reach a freeze point. Here in Korea I just want data and the more the better. In downtown London

Re: [Talk-GB] Gun Location Sensors

2010-12-13 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I googled and found that the brand name is Secures. I also found this article with a picture. http://media.www.jhunewsletter.com/media/storage/paper932/news/2009/12/03/NewsFeatures/Gun-Detection.Sensors.Installed.Around.City-3845405.shtml This article says they may be disguised as vents or bird