Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-19 Thread SteveC
On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:28 AM, John Smith wrote: On 20 July 2010 10:22, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: Apparently lawyers with real law degrees think we do. Here's a crazy idea: maybe they're right? I don’t have the same unconditional love. I'm left wondering if this problem is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-19 Thread SteveC
On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Simon Ward wrote: Apparently lawyers with real law degrees think we do. Here's a crazy idea: maybe they're right? I don’t have the same unconditional love. You could pay your own lawyer to check it then? Steve stevecoast.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread SteveC
likely, downloads it through a P2P filesharing service). Now's the cue for SteveC to say 1) but commercial providers use contract law; and 2) I've got a lawyer who doesn't like you and lawyers are never wrong. Well, 1) commercial providers don't make it easy to download the entire database

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread SteveC
On Jul 24, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I propose 3) Occam's Razor - the now hundreds of people who've been involved in the ODbL in the last few years, some of whom are real lawyers are all wrong and suddenly Anthony

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread SteveC
On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:25 PM, 80n wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:06 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I propose 3) Occam's Razor - the now hundreds of people who've been involved in the ODbL in the last few years, some of whom are real lawyers are all wrong Steve And the advice

[OSM-legal-talk] Interesting judgment

2010-07-24 Thread SteveC
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100722/18242810326.shtml The full opinion is worth a read. Or you could just ask Anthony? Steve stevecoast.com ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-04 Thread SteveC
This is simple straw man crap. 80n invents a deadline, proceeds to piss off everyone, take all our time and thus slow things down, then declare we're not meeting the deadline. Steve stevecoast.com On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:35 PM, 80n wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Frederik Ramm

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-05 Thread SteveC
On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:30 PM, John Smith wrote: On 5 August 2010 12:59, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: This is simple straw man crap. 80n invents a deadline, proceeds to piss off everyone, take all our time and thus slow things down, then declare we're not meeting the deadline

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-05 Thread SteveC
On Aug 5, 2010, at 6:43 AM, SteveC wrote: On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:30 PM, John Smith wrote: On 5 August 2010 12:59, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: This is simple straw man crap. 80n invents a deadline, proceeds to piss off everyone, take all our time and thus slow things down

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-05 Thread SteveC
+1 On Aug 5, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: They're vector graphics. They are vectors, but they sure aren't graphics. Not until they get rendered. Is an svg file not graphics until it gets rendered? Rendered != rasterised. The vector data has no natural visual form. This is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread SteveC
On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:43 PM, John Smith wrote: On 20 August 2010 06:40, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:35 PM, John Smith wrote: On 20 August 2010 06:32, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Sure, but the OSMF's legal remit is very, very different to NearMaps

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread SteveC
On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:51 PM, John Smith wrote: On 20 August 2010 06:48, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Where did I question it's accuracy? You said ... Sure, but who employed them and are repeating it, and going along with it? That's not me questioning their accuracy. You were saying

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread SteveC
On Aug 19, 2010, at 4:20 PM, 80n wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:55 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:37 PM, 80n wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:40 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:35 PM, John Smith wrote: On 20 August 2010

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread SteveC
On Aug 19, 2010, at 4:33 PM, SteveC wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 4:20 PM, 80n wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:55 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:37 PM, 80n wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:40 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:35

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Noise vs unanswered questions

2010-09-01 Thread SteveC
On Sep 1, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Liz wrote: The complete lack of any arguments left in the brains of the pro-ODbL lobby shows in the complete falling apart of any discussion on this list, with previously thoughtful people concentrating on personal attacks on others, mostly claiming that they

[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: Two questions to LWG

2010-09-02 Thread SteveC
Its quite incredible that you can't be bothered to read the output of the LWG but are quite happy to make demands of them. They're volunteers just like the rest of us. Have fun, Steve | stevecoast.com On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:52 AM, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: To LWG,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-28 Thread SteveC
On Sep 28, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Dave F. wrote: On 28/09/2010 20:27, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Dave F. wrote: When you joined OSM, was OS Streetview tracing already available then? Becasue you make it sound as if OSM without OS Streetview wasn't worth your time No I have not you know

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread SteveC
On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: TimSC wrote: It may be possible to argue that OSMF did try to engage the community. Rather than me try to make the case, it's more fun seeing what justifications people are trying to use on the mailing list! Seriously? You

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread SteveC
On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Anthony wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:58 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Personally I think it's time to consider kickbanning the trolls with the fake names. TimSC is a fake name? If so, what's SteveC? Both are very easy to discover. Hell, you can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread SteveC
On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: This message has gone OT. On 01/10/2010 19:38, SteveC wrote: Both are very easy to discover. Hell, you can even get my phone number from my website. What do you want, a medal? Yes please. The hint

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-02 Thread SteveC
project. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:10 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: This message has gone OT. On 01/10/2010 19:38, SteveC wrote: Both are very easy to discover. Hell, you can even get my phone number from my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-02 Thread SteveC
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote a bunch of stuff. I'd like to further ask that you do not repost private messages on a public message board. Your behavior is unacceptable, and I'm not going to respond

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this click through agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-12-12 Thread SteveC
Making sure mike sees this thread... He's been talking to the same people I believe. Steve stevecoast.com On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: city changed the click through to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread SteveC
Sadly I agree. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:19, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have is a bit different. Someone (who has actively declined the CT) has been using nearmap to trace in some roads under construction in the Canberra area. Some of these

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Refusing CT but declaring contributions as PD

2011-08-24 Thread SteveC
On 8/24/2011 8:56 AM, Simon Poole wrote: But probably the buck would stop with the OSMF. Distributing data just because somebody on the web said it was PD has a high likelihood of being considered negligent. You need to search around for safe harbor provisions. Steve Simon Am 24.08.2011

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-16 Thread SteveC
So those guys put out a legal statement and an employee even gave you his interpretation on this list, which you can cite in court if you want. I think you're pretty solid and it feels like people are just looking for problems no matter what is done or said. :-( Steve stevecoast.com On Jun

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
This reads like you disagree with taxation or death. I do too, but there's not much I can do about it. The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at and now it's down to people holding out because of a comma in the wrong place or a moral objection to various aspects of intellectual

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 8 July 2011 13:26, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at From what I've read on ML posts, and from what was reported about the last SotM meeting (I wasn't there), the vast majority of people don't care and would be happy

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
What you say mike is mostly reasonable apart from the control bit. It's a democratically elected nonprofit, so it's hard to cast that as a dictatorship. Steve stevecoast.com On Jul 7, 2011, at 20:47, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Chris

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
Actually, the license process has been known about for a long, long time so it's not this new turnaround you cast it as. In addition, everyone else (bing, ordnance survey...) has worked with us very reasonably. In fact it's hard to say near map have been unreasonable, just that they were not

Re: [talk-au] ATTN Steve Coast st...@asklater.com RE Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
Don't know how I can reply to someone who explicitly declares they don't want to change their mind or debate. In amongst the vitriol is perhaps a nugget that's worth responding to, this idea that somehow everyone on talk-au is 80n's puppet, is of course absurd. Unless you prove this isn't just

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:14, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: It's been pointed out that I'm not replying to hundreds of messages from John Smith, Anthony and friends. I don't see them as they're automatically deleted. I find life is better without

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
Sam Underlaying your attacks is the notion that I dismiss people who disagree with me, or that I can't understand different points of view. I find that strange given my rational responses to several disagreements on this list and outlaying where I feel misunderstandings have come from. I have

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:57, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: We've gone to insanely long lengths to make that the case, including getting clarifications from Ordnance Survey, Nearmap and many others. As far as I'm aware there are no remaining issues as

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:10, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Sam Underlaying your attacks is the notion that I dismiss people who disagree with me, or that I can't understand different points of view. I find that strange given my rational responses

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:11, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: As it happens however, my view that John smith and others are trolls is widely held. And unless you have anything to discuss other than you believing what I write to be bullshit I'm afraid you

[Talk-de] Fwd: Open street Map - correction

2010-06-25 Thread SteveC
Yours c.SteveBegin forwarded message:From: Michael Besteck sw...@web.deDate: June 25, 2010 9:22:35 MDTTo: st...@asklater.comSubject: Open street Map - correctionReply-To: "Michael Besteck" sw...@web.deDear SteveThanks for Street Maps, heard about in detail on one of the pastCCC-Congresses in

[Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-06-29 Thread SteveC
Hello So, first I apologise for writing in English. My German is very poor. Several people have volunteered to translate back and forth. Recently I had the luck and privilege to travel to some places in Germany, Italy and other countries and meet OSMers. This was very educational and I

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-06-30 Thread SteveC
On 29 Jun 2009, at 18:05, Peter Dörrie wrote: Hi Steve, thanks for taking the time to keep in contact with communities from other countries. I personally think that it would be a great idea to hear from you (or others from the foundation) more frequently on the talk-de list. I am

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-06-30 Thread SteveC
On 29 Jun 2009, at 18:42, Torsten Breda wrote: Erst mal entschuldige ich mich, dass ich auf deutsch schreibe. Wie du aber gesagt hast gibt es Freiwillige, die das übersetzen können und wollen. Zunächst möchte ich sagen, dass ich es prima finde, dass du dich auf talk-de meldest. Ein guter

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-06-30 Thread SteveC
Again from Google Translation On 29 Jun 2009, at 19:29, Markus wrote: Ja, das Image der OSMF ist ziemlich schlecht. Warum weiss ich nicht. Ich selbst habe keine eigene Erfahrung mit der OSMF. Was ich höre sind nur Gerüchte. Yes, the image of the OSMF is pretty bad. Why I do not know. I

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-06-30 Thread SteveC
On 29 Jun 2009, at 22:03, frank mohr wrote: Hello Steve SteveC wrote: Recently I had the luck and privilege to travel to some places in Germany, Italy and other countries and meet OSMers. This was very educational and I learnt a lot about how the different communities work in these places

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-06-30 Thread SteveC
On 30 Jun 2009, at 10:42, Claudius wrote: Am 30.06.2009 10:02, SteveC: Lizenz: Warum musste die Lizenz in Rekortzeit durchgeboxt werden? License: Why had the license in Rekortzeit durchgeboxt be? I'm sorry the translation has broken down here, can someone provide a better translation

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-01 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jul 2009, at 12:44, pirrifor...@web.de wrote: I never participate in any mailing list discussion, but seeing the communication campaign for the new license and this project being so important for me i'll break my rule. Let me first thank you for the brilliant idea of OSM which for

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-01 Thread SteveC
On 30 Jun 2009, at 16:24, Rotbarsch wrote: Hi Steve, hallo zusammen! Zitat von SteveC st...@asklater.com: One thing I noticed a lot everywhere though was some misunderstandings on what the foundation, the OSMF, are doing. It feels a little like FUD[1]. T Eine Sache, die ich oft

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-01 Thread SteveC
On 30 Jun 2009, at 16:10, Sebastian Hohmann wrote: SteveC schrieb: On 30 Jun 2009, at 10:42, Claudius wrote: Am 30.06.2009 10:02, SteveC: Lizenz: Warum musste die Lizenz in Rekortzeit durchgeboxt werden? License: Why had the license in Rekortzeit durchgeboxt be? I'm sorry

[Talk-de] TIGER in USA

2009-07-01 Thread SteveC
I saw someone fixing TIGER data in the USA today with JOSM and I wondered does the German community know about this? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tiger_fixup In particular there are some key problems all over the USA - Joining up all the counties together:

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 07:37, Jochen Topf wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:55:43PM +0100, SteveC wrote: The license is interesting, because if you think about it and I was evil then I would join the people who like the public domain. Because then it would be much easier for my company

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jul 2009, at 15:02, Peter Dörrie wrote: We have asked for help with this many times. For example last year I think Mikel Maron put up money and a free SOTM ticket to anyone who would blog regularly on OSM news but nobody did. I can try again. I think this shows a core problem: The OSM

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 08:39, dgdg wrote: Verstehe ich alles - bei kommerziellen Konferenzen. Da darf das gerne auch mal einen Tausender pro Tag kosten - zahlt sowieso die Firma. Aber 100 Euro sind für den ambitionierten Hobby-Mapper eben schon zuviel und da darf man sich nicht wundern, wenn

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 09:12, Peter Dörrie wrote: 2009/7/2 dgdg o...@fronhausen.com Verstehe ich alles - bei kommerziellen Konferenzen. Da darf das gerne auch mal einen Tausender pro Tag kosten - zahlt sowieso die Firma. Aber 100 Euro sind für den ambitionierten Hobby-Mapper eben schon

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 11:10, Frederik Ramm wrote: We had made it quite clear to you that the German community will happily enter into an agreement with OSMF and will also agree to return whatever it gained from that agreement if cooperation should stop at a later point in time, but that we

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 13:21, Tobias Wendorff wrote: SteveC schrieb: Out of interest - why is this? If you follow that logic then I should keep the trademarks and domain names I owned also? Seems like EvilStevil breaks down OSM to trademarks, doesn't he? Of course ... he also registered the OSM

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:02, Tobias Wendorff wrote: M.Gehling schrieb: und das ist auch richtig so. ( Er hat es für die osmf registriert ? ) _Er_ hat es registriert - das ist genau der Punkt: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-number?trademark=2500155 Es läuft auf ihn als natürliche Person und

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:19, Tobias Wendorff wrote: SteveC schrieb: But, and this is the central point, the useful trademarks for 'openstreetmap' fell through because they're too descriptive. They're not even valid. Why does it [1] say Registered and not declined? Because that's the logo one

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_assassination On 2 Jul 2009, at 15:51, Jochen Topf wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 01:23:32PM +0100, SteveC wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 13:21, Tobias Wendorff wrote: SteveC schrieb: Out of interest - why is this? If you follow that logic then I should keep the trademarks

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 15:10, Jochen Topf wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 12:57:10PM +0100, SteveC wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at 07:37, Jochen Topf wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:55:43PM +0100, SteveC wrote: The license is interesting, because if you think about it and I was evil then I would join

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-05 Thread SteveC
On 4 Jul 2009, at 19:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hallo Tirkon, Zunächst einmal nehme ich an, dass es sich bei SteveC um den Gründer des OSM Projektes Steve Cost handelt. Steve Coast. Es drängt sich mir der Eindruck auf, dass hier ein Zwist zwischen besagtem SteveC als Vertreter des UK-OSM

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-06 Thread SteveC
On 6 Jul 2009, at 10:45, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: I was told though that I was taken out of the second edition of the book, is that right? I remember I was mentioned fairy up front in the first edition. We have a section on CloudMade (p.164) where we say that one

Re: [Talk-de] Ticket für SOTM

2009-07-07 Thread SteveC
The google translation for this is unusable, let me know if I can help. Best Steve On 7 Jul 2009, at 09:48, Claudius wrote: Sollte noch jemand ein Ticket für die SOTM benötigen. Bitte hier melden, muss meines leider abgeben. Claudius ___

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-08 Thread SteveC
On 8 Jul 2009, at 11:55, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: Well what else would they say, it's the only license they have that even applies. If you asked Microsoft what OS you should use, what do you think they would say? The other problem is they've made the leap from just providing

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-08 Thread SteveC
On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:38, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: I'm glad we have settled that Creative Commons officially suggested to us that we use CC0 for OpenStreetMap, rather than this just being a personal opinion of an individual as you seemed to suggest earlier. Um, no, I

Re: [Talk-de] [Osmf-talk] EVERYONE: PLEASE VOTE

2009-08-19 Thread SteveC
First I think you just breached the data protection act and are using data which even I don't have access to, but lets ignore that and the fact that Nick has actually been pushing to make the list more open. A list which only you, Mike and 80n have. I really wish we could just pay people in

Re: [Talk-de] [Osmf-talk] EVERYONE: PLEASE VOTE

2009-08-20 Thread SteveC
On 20 Aug 2009, at 00:32, Jochen Topf wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 06:12:46PM -0700, SteveC wrote: But lets look at the real issue, Frederik. You're intensely jealous that your own firm, GeoFabrik, which you didn't bother to declare in your anti-CM email, has had little success compared

[Talk-de] to black_bike, Ropino, Merlin, MotLib and the others I can't make out

2009-10-16 Thread SteveC
Thanks for the card. It took a long time to arrive, but thanks :-) Yours c. Steve ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] FUD

2009-12-12 Thread SteveC
are employed by CloudeMade. Furthermore, the [OSMF] chairman is the boss of that commercial enterprise. Personally, i find that the worst possible combination. bye André http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-December/059909.html I simply have a problem with SteveC being on the board

Re: [Talk-de] news von steve coast

2010-11-23 Thread SteveC
wow On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:36 PM, 007 wrote: Pure Spekulation ;) : OSM bekommt The worlds best sat imagery. Beuutifull pictures. Gibt es nichts mehr zu mappen wird nach einhelliger Meinung der ODBL-Verschwörungstheoriegemeinde die versuchte Übernahme der Openstreetmap durch

Re: [Talk-de] news von steve coast

2010-11-24 Thread SteveC
On Nov 24, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Martin Simon wrote: Am 23. November 2010 22:27 schrieb SteveC st...@asklater.com: wow Hey, stop google-translate-ing our list! We can only succesfully conspire against you, OSMF, ODBL and whoever-you-happen-to-work-for-atm when it's kept secret! Please

Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM 2008: The State of The (Canada) Map

2008-07-08 Thread SteveC
I would just run some mapping parties, and remember to go for a drink afterward. They're basically proven effective and shouldn't cost anything at all to run. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mapping_Party_Howto On 8 Jul 2008, at 07:52, Gerald A wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:58

Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM 2008: The State of The (Canada) Map

2008-07-08 Thread SteveC
On 8 Jul 2008, at 13:55, James Ewen wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:27 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would just run some mapping parties, and remember to go for a drink afterward. They're basically proven effective and shouldn't cost anything at all to run. Sure thing... how many

[Talk-ca] Fwd: shape files of US states and great lakes

2008-07-08 Thread SteveC
probably better sent with the address that I subscribed with... Begin forwarded message: From: SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8 July 2008 14:26:02 PDT To: talk-us [EMAIL PROTECTED], talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: shape files of US states and great lakes Hi I've had a chat with jon

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Fwd: shape files of US states and great lakes

2008-07-08 Thread SteveC
my goal is to make this http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.8lon=-95.9zoom=4 look something like this http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=mlat=39.463135lon=-93.818625zoom=5 On 8 Jul 2008, at 14:43, Adam Schreiber wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:38 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Jul 2008

Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM 2008: The State of The (Canada) Map

2008-07-08 Thread SteveC
On 8 Jul 2008, at 17:32, James Ewen wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:12 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you're sort of giving up before you started. OSM didn't start by having universal member density throughout Europe or something. I agree, however, you need to entice people

Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM 2008: The State of The (Canada) Map

2008-07-08 Thread SteveC
On 8 Jul 2008, at 19:48, James Ewen wrote: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, do you send these distant groups free GPS units? Do you attend these mapping parties? If so, how do you get there at no cost? I'm not going to tie myself to this 'no cost' thing

Re: [Talk-ca] Garmin Maps made from OSM listed on MapCenter2

2008-07-20 Thread SteveC
On 18 Jul 2008, at 22:31, Corey Burger wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Sam Vekemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I noticed that Montreal seems to be the only city in Canada which has a garmin map of the city posted to http://Mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com with a source reference

Re: [Talk-ca] About OpenStreetMap

2009-01-09 Thread SteveC
I really don't have time to do your homework for you, but maybe someone on talk-ca@ or newbies@ will help you. Best Steve On 6 Jan 2009, at 18:33, Nyaladzani Nkhwanana wrote: Hi Steve, My name is Nyaladzani Nkhwanana, a Masters student at the university of New Brunswick, Fredericton,

Re: [Talk-ca] Reminder: Toronto, ON mapping party - Jan 31st.

2009-01-30 Thread SteveC
I can't make it but just a note that this is superb it's happening On 30 Jan 2009, at 11:24, Colin McGregor wrote: Just a quick reminder note, there will be a mapping party in Toronto, Ontario When: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:00 PM Where Aroma Espresso Bar 500 Bloor St W Toronto ON

Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread SteveC
Stupid question, you guys importing addressing too? On 31 May 2009, at 21:38, Michael Barabanov wrote: It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data. Are you going to be doing more areas in BC? Yes, starting with adjacent areas to south and east. Michael. On Sun, May 31,

Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-01 Thread SteveC
I think that'd be super cool. On 1 Jun 2009, at 13:27, Richard Weait wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 11:08 +0100, SteveC wrote: Stupid question, you guys importing addressing too? The Canadian government data does not include addressing information for all jurisdictions. This area (British

Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-06-02 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jun 2009, at 22:36, Sam Vekemans wrote: I decided not to add these tag to the 'TR_1760009_1roads_segment_GeoBase', because the Geobase roads are more uptodate, and dont want people to be updating the area will the most complete data. The house numbering system, of having it

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-17 Thread SteveC
On 12 Jun 2009, at 18:54, Richard Degelder wrote: William Lachance wrote: Look at this from another angle: Should we split up all the existing OSM road data that people have put in to add in GeoBase UUID information? The simple answer is that at some point we are going to have to. If

Re: [Talk-ca] Charlottetown, PE, Mapping Party

2009-08-17 Thread SteveC
Wish I could go, it's super beautiful. Yours c. Steve On 16 Aug 2009, at 11:06, Robert Shand wrote: Hi Everyone, http://ruk.ca/content/openstreetmap-mapping-party-august-26-2009 Peter Rukivina is looking at doing a mapping party on the 26th. The more merrier. Best wishes

Re: [Talk-ca] [Osmf-talk] EVERYONE: PLEASE VOTE

2009-08-19 Thread SteveC
First I think you just breached the data protection act and are using data which even I don't have access to, but lets ignore that and the fact that Nick has actually been pushing to make the list more open. A list which only you, Mike and 80n have. I really wish we could just pay people in

Re: [Talk-ca] [Osmf-talk] EVERYONE: PLEASE VOTE

2009-08-20 Thread SteveC
On 20 Aug 2009, at 00:32, Jochen Topf wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 06:12:46PM -0700, SteveC wrote: But lets look at the real issue, Frederik. You're intensely jealous that your own firm, GeoFabrik, which you didn't bother to declare in your anti-CM email, has had little success compared

Re: [Talk-ca] Road and Trail Maps available for Ontario, Canada at no cost

2009-08-28 Thread SteveC
Hi, sounds like this should go to talk-ca Yours c. Steve On 28 Aug 2009, at 08:41, Albertson, Carol Anne (MNR) wrote: Hi, I am not sure if you are accessing Provincial or Federal warehouses for data but currently Ontario road and trail data can be accessed at no cost at Land

[Talk-ca] US SOTM

2009-11-04 Thread SteveC
Dear all On the US chapter call this week we briefly discussed doing a SOTM in the USA a couple of weeks before or after the main SOTM. If you'd like to be involved with this, the first call will be at Monday Nov 9th 5:30PM PST/8:30PM EST (immediately after the US chapter

Re: [Talk-ca] US SOTM

2009-11-04 Thread SteveC
And by US... I really mean north america, it's easy enough to have an event in CA. Yours c. Steve On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:17 PM, SteveC wrote: Dear all On the US chapter call this week we briefly discussed doing a SOTM in the USA a couple of weeks before or after the main SOTM. If you'd

Re: [Talk-ca] walking papers website having trouble??

2011-06-11 Thread SteveC
Mike? Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 13:27, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: I have been waiting 17 hours for a map to generate at walking-papers.org. Is anybody aware of problems?? http://walking-papers.org/print.php?id=qztkwgs3 Bernie.

[Talk-ca] Fwd: walking papers website having trouble??

2011-06-11 Thread SteveC
Steve stevecoast.com Begin forwarded message: From: Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com Date: June 11, 2011 18:41:41 GMT+01:00 To: SteveC st...@asklater.com Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] walking papers website having trouble?? It's been a long week so I've had to ignore WP for a few days - I

Re: [Talk-ca] BC Open Data License compatibility

2011-09-07 Thread SteveC
On 9/4/2011 6:51 PM, john whelan wrote: The issue with using data like this with OSM is when you contribute it under the new contribution terms you accept that OSM can change the license at a later date. Practically speaking it makes it impossible to respect any other license so currently

[Talk-GB] free freethepostcode

2007-05-13 Thread SteveC
on it or take it down. I still think there's a lot of value in it, I just don't have the time. have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi

Re: [Talk-GB] London progress and unnamed roads

2008-01-31 Thread SteveC
Almost there... possible to tone down the other stuff more? On 31 Jan 2008, at 18:04, Dave Stubbs wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 4:03 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Jan 2008, at 16:02, Dave Stubbs wrote: I was aiming more for a map of what's really there, rather than a map of what's

[Talk-GB] Surrey pub meet this Sunday

2008-02-12 Thread SteveC
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Surrey_England have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Message for Nick Austin

2008-03-10 Thread SteveC
? Nick (W) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve

[Talk-GB] OS costs

2008-04-27 Thread SteveC
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/apr/25/charles.arthur Best Steve ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] mapping props

2008-05-04 Thread SteveC
Yes I;ve found high-vis vests very useful. Beyond that, I sometimes pretend to be confused or play with camera/GPS which makes people feel a bit better, or say hello and say I'm mapping. I think it's a special case in this country though where an outsider is automatically going to rape and

[Talk-GB] Anniversary

2008-07-22 Thread SteveC
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap_4th_Anniversary_Birthday_party I won't be in the UK - someone needs to organise... Best Steve ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] OSM quality in the UK - academic paper

2008-08-07 Thread SteveC
I'm still reading... http://povesham.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/osm-quality-evaluation/ Best Steve ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Social Technologies Summit - Call For Submissions

2008-09-11 Thread SteveC
may be of interest... Begin forwarded message: From: Drew Hemment [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3 September 2008 23:09:58 BST To: Steve Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Social Technologies Summit - Call For Submissions Hi Steve fyi

Re: [Talk-GB] Change of pub for tonight's mapping party

2008-09-17 Thread SteveC
oh that sucks :-( used to be good On 17 Sep 2008, at 14:41, Grant Slater wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: Steve has changed the pub for tonight to The Fettler. http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.51581mlon=-0.17868zoom=17layers=000BFTF

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