Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:52:24AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Let us drop all this nonsense and concentrate on drawing up the moral guidelines - saying what we consider ok and what not - instead of fantasizing about having legal powers to enforce anything. I don't get it : you go on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: If the contract is between OSM and the user, then Foo cannot sue Bar for breach of contract because they have no contract. (Can my business sue your business because you use a pirated copy of Microsoft Windows and thus have an unfair advantage? Unsure but don't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread SteveC
On 6 Feb 2008, at 11:59, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:52:24AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Let us drop all this nonsense and concentrate on drawing up the moral guidelines - saying what we consider ok and what not - instead of fantasizing about having legal powers

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread rob
Quoting Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well my position is the enlightened one: We can't enforce anything, We don't know precisely what can and cannot be enforced. This is why the current debate within OSM and with other organizations is so important, to ensure that OSM has a reasonably

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread bvh
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 12:59:46PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: I don't get it : you go on about how license such and such is possibly unenforceable and then you propose moral guidelines that are 100% guaranteed not enforceable. I fail to see progress. Well my position is the enlightened