Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-03 Thread Lester Caine
SteveC wrote: On 2 May 2008, at 12:38, Christopher Schmidt wrote: Some things don't require referential integreity: selecting ways/nodes within a bounding box can't hurt the referential integrity of the database (so long as the code is well-maintained), so the harm in converting those methods

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-03 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 06:56:40AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: SteveC wrote: On 2 May 2008, at 12:38, Christopher Schmidt wrote: Some things don't require referential integreity: selecting ways/nodes within a bounding box can't hurt the referential integrity of the database (so long as the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:24:35AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the fact that it has its own API is a much bigger concern than

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most purposes AS3 probably is a better language - except for the fairly major proviso there's no open-source player even in development. As far as I'm concerned this is quite a key point, although I know that

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes wrote: Sent: 02 May 2008 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most purposes AS3 probably is a better language - except for the fairly

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread bvh
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:25:50AM +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: OTH I don't know much about AS3 so I can't say whether it's much better in this regard, but from a quick scan of it, I'd say it was. I think the main problem is the likely-hood of an opensource player being available for it. AS3

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [warning - long ponderous e-mail follows!] Hi all, A fairly weighty issue concerning the future of Potlatch has arisen, and I'm completely baffled as to what to do - so I thought I'd ask the community for thoughts

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:35:06AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: To summarise I think we both want the same thing, but you perhaps think somebody should just sit down and bang an AMF version of the current XML API and I'm happy with trying to incrementally move towards that position? Well, I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:35:06AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: To summarise I think we both want the same thing, but you perhaps think somebody should just sit down and bang an AMF version of the current XML API

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread SteveC
Richard I'm sorry you think informal private chats are now in the public domain, I'll keep it in mind. All This is not quite what happened. For a start, this doesn't really have anything to do with CloudMade, it started a long time before that. It's about the maintainability and quality

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:27:38PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: I won't pretend that I know nearly as much about the rails code as you do, but it seems like some of these would be better abstracted out. If that were the case -- that is, that all the Rails code on the site used the same

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Thanks for some really helpful and interesting responses. (Thanks especially to Tom C for a very valuable perspective.) -- API The API has come up a lot. I've said before and will happily restate now that I think it would be great to get Potlatch talking Rails on the serverside, rather

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
-- AS1 / AS3 Dave - I think your definition of donkey balls might be different to mine. ;) Or rather, when you've been sucking horse balls for several years then donkey balls don't seem very different. Er, I should probably rephrase that. Yeah, I don't think the relative merits of various

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In part it's an entirely selfish attitude in as much as that Adobe show no signs of wanting to support flash on 64 bit linux which means that I am left having to rely on the free players or struggling to use the 32 bit flash plugin via a kludgy wrapper

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, [warning - long ponderous e-mail follows!] I don't really see much of a problem with mutliple Flash editors being available. If they get something done that's better than Potlatch, why then it's good for all is it not? In general I have a problem with the built-in uniqueness of Potlatch or

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-01 Thread Tom Carden
2008/5/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: CloudMade (Steve and Nick's VC-funded company set up to commercialise OSM data, www.cloudmade.com) wants to commission a new online Flash editor for OSM. It would, I believe, probably be written by developers from Stamen Design

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-01 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the fact that it has its own API is a much bigger concern than it being written in AS 1.0 is. If Potlatch was using the main API, development of API-backed features in Potlatch could be shared by other editors

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-01 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:24:35AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the fact that it has its own API is a much bigger concern than it being written in AS 1.0 is. If Potlatch was using the main API, development of