Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-09 Thread Erik Moeller
Thanks all for the helpful responses. I'll explore using the Overpass API and its "permanent ID" feature [1] for now. I do tend to agree with Joost that it makes sense for OSM to have a policy for external identifiers -- even if the threshold is not one that this project can meet yet. :) It'll be

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 09 ago 2016, alle ore 10:09, Rory McCann ha > scritto: > > The suggestion of looking for "a fast food restaurant named McDonalds > near the place" will solve that problem. yes, besides the fact McDonald's reviews are a bit pointless

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-09 Thread joost schouppe
Re: Erik > Last but not least, do you have a sense how common this category of change is for typical POIs? I have no idea, but I would say fairly common. I analysed the evolution of nature reserves in Belgium as a test case, and they do really evolve. Starting their life as a node, then a way,

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-09 Thread Rory McCann
On 08/08/16 22:52, Erik Moeller wrote: > From a data consumer's point of view, when > I look up the original node ID, do I just get a "not found", or is > there an easy way to tell that there's a new way or relation now > representing the same object? Alas, no. There is no "parent objects" like

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Pine W
Hi Clifford, Let me clarify that we're discussing OSM tagging with Wikidata IDs, not Wikipedia articles. They are two related but different concepts. Pine On Aug 8, 2016 22:05, "Clifford Snow" wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Pine W

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Pine W wrote: > Speaking as an OSM novice but an experienced Wikimedian, having Wikidata > ID tags makes sense to me. This sounds like something that could benefit > Wikidata, Wikipedia, and other projects that recognize Wikidata IDs. There >

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Pine W
Speaking as an OSM novice but an experienced Wikimedian, having Wikidata ID tags makes sense to me. This sounds like something that could benefit Wikidata, Wikipedia, and other projects that recognize Wikidata IDs. There might be no need to have multiple external ID tags in OSM if the Wikidata tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: >> - add an external ID to OSM. This would be analogue to the current wikidata >> tag. It's better not to add external IDs to OSM. It would be OK if there is only 1 project in the world that would do this, but if every pet

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Il giorno 09 ago 2016, alle ore 00:46, Nicolás Alvarez ha scritto: >> From a data consumer's point of view, when >> I look up the original node ID, do I just get a "not found", or is >> there an easy way to tell that there's a new way or relation

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2016-08-08 17:52 GMT-03:00 Erik Moeller : > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:56 AM, joost schouppe > wrote: >> Keeping OSM and an external database linked is no mean feat. Say you load a >> McDonalds POI to your database and someone reviews it. But then a

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:56 AM, joost schouppe wrote: > Keeping OSM and an external database linked is no mean feat. Say you load a > McDonalds POI to your database and someone reviews it. But then a mapper > comes along and changes the node to a line. Upon the next

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 Thread joost schouppe
Keeping OSM and an external database linked is no mean feat. Say you load a McDonalds POI to your database and someone reviews it. But then a mapper comes along and changes the node to a line. Upon the next update of your POI database, your review will not find the object it linked to before,

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Pine W wrote: Hi Pine, Nice to run into you here! > Hod do you plan to develop readership for this site? Yelp seems to have a > commanding lead. To begin with, I think the most important question is whether this is something of importance

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Thread Pine W
Hi Erik, Interesting project, though I must admit some caution about its success. How do you plan to develop readership for this site? Yelp seems to have a commanding lead. Pine On Aug 5, 2016 18:17, "Erik Moeller" wrote: > Hi Michał, > > Thanks for your comments! > > On

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi Michał, Thanks for your comments! On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > Have you devised any robust algorithm for linking OSM primitives to > objects in the external database? In general case, it seems really > hard to track objects as they get

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Have you devised any robust algorithm for linking OSM primitives to objects in the external database? In general case, it seems really hard to track objects as they get converted from nodes to areas, or decide whether given OSM feature is no longer representing some entity in the external

[OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-05 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi all, I'm working on this project: https://lib.reviews/ The front page explains the goal: to build a free, open and non-profit community focused on reviews. Review content is under CC-BY-SA while the codebase is under CC-0. Basic functionality to write reviews is there (we identify things to