Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-16 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/1/15 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: As subject. Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? I think it is very ethical to say yes to the above. Where is that CC madness you are talking about? As

[OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
As subject. Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? I think it is very ethical to say yes to the above. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Claudius
We can't, because the idea of a license is that it applies to anyone in any situation, but... Nullum ius sine actione / Wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter / There is no judge, without a complainant Claudius Am 15.01.2010 22:04, Stefan de Konink: As subject. Can we just grant anyone that want

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 15-01-10 22:26, Claudius schreef: We can't, because the idea of a license is that it applies to anyone in any situation, but... Nullum ius sine actione / Wo kein Kläger, da kein Richter / There is no judge, without a complainant So maybe anyone that as objectives to going PD for

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Stefan de Konink wrote: It seems that commercial companies do get the point... Yes but you're missing the point. I'm all for ditching the share-alike hassle but until we do that, everyone holds rights to their data and has *not* agreed to a clause that says the data is license-free for

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Stefan de Konink wrote: It seems that commercial companies do get the point... Yes but you're missing the point. I'm all for ditching the share-alike hassle but until we do that, everyone holds rights to their data and has *not* agreed to a

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/15 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? What's the particular need for this? I might agree but I don't see off the top of my head any problems anyone could have

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: 2010/1/16 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Stefan de Konink wrote: It seems that commercial companies do get the point... Yes but you're missing the point. I'm all for ditching the share-alike hassle but until we do that, everyone holds rights to their data and

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread John Smith
2010/1/16 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Even commercial companies aren't doing PD, they are allowing all uses except commercial uses. So if a charity employs a freelance driver, the driver, being commercial, is not allowed to use the map, whereas the charity employee sitting next to him