Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-16 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-15 21:27, Richard wrote: On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:38:03AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 13:42 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : > From wikipedia (if that is an authority) > it isn't. getting better and better: we have now a discussion on the labeling of

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-15 Thread Richard
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 04:01:23PM -0500, Mario Frasca wrote: > On 15/02/2020 15:27, Richard wrote: > >getting better and better: we have now a discussion on the labeling > >of Antifa, definition of facism, authority of Wikipedia, what next? > > > >* less politics is better for OSM > >* I would

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-15 Thread Mario Frasca
On 15/02/2020 15:27, Richard wrote: getting better and better: we have now a discussion on the labeling of Antifa, definition of facism, authority of Wikipedia, what next? * less politics is better for OSM * I would not be happy if anyone could mashup his logo with that of OSM Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-15 Thread Richard
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:38:03AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 13:42 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : > > > From wikipedia (if that is an authority) > > > it isn't. getting better and better: we have now a discussion on the labeling of Antifa, definition of facism,

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-14 Thread Sebastian Martin Dicke via talk
Hi, I do not know the situation in other countries, but in Germany trademarks are only protected for commercial usage. It is their purpose. Regards Sebastian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-14 Thread dcapillae
Hi, Thank you for your comment, Rory. You seem like a reasonable person. Thank you for talking about the subject in a casual way and without the fanaticism that others often show when their ideas are criticized. I was censored on an informal communication channel of the OSM community in Spain. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 13:42 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : > From wikipedia (if that is an authority) > it isn't. Cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Rory McCann
Hello fellow OSMers!  So this is from me. Last year I made some mashups of the OSM logo. There is often a lot of big business presence at tech/FLOSS conferences now, so I thought “What would be the opposite of that?” I am pretty lefty, and I do like OSM's

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Midgard
Quoting Christoph Hormann (2020-02-13 15:06:21) > On Monday 10 February 2020, Midgard wrote: > > > > I think it's a bad idea to create material that associates > > OpenStreetMap with political groups. I suspect there are also > > trademark issues with the mashup. > > No, the trademark policy is

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 10 February 2020, Midgard wrote: > > I think it's a bad idea to create material that associates > OpenStreetMap with political groups. I suspect there are also > trademark issues with the mashup. No, the trademark policy is pretty clear on that:

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Midgard
Hi, Quoting Florian Lohoff (2020-02-13 12:59:23) > Just nitpicking but "militant groups" is a little far fetched. Antifa is > the abbreviation for "Anti fascist" and by no means has anything to do > with militant activities. > > Putting the Antifa into the militant left wing edge is polemic of a

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 13.02.20 13:38, Maarten Deen wrote: > With the risk of starting a political discussion, but you are grossly > understating the actions of the various antifa groups. > They are generally seen as militant left wing groups. I know of at least three groups having "Antifa" in ther name in my town

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2020-02-13 12:59, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Midgard wrote: Hi, Someone created a mashup[1] between the logos of OpenStreetMap and Antifa, a collective of militant groups which are known to use violence. This graphic is distributed on stickers.[2]

Re: [OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-13 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Midgard wrote: > Hi, > > Someone created a mashup[1] between the logos of OpenStreetMap and Antifa, a > collective of militant > groups which are known to use violence. This graphic is distributed on > stickers.[2] Just nitpicking but "militant

[OSM-talk] Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo

2020-02-10 Thread Midgard
Hi, Someone created a mashup[1] between the logos of OpenStreetMap and Antifa, a collective of militant groups which are known to use violence. This graphic is distributed on stickers.[2] I'm asking to cease use of this logo. I think it's a bad idea to create material that associates