[OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
There are few quirks currently with Potlatch. I hope somebody could fix these :D 1. The auto complete is great but its behaviour is a bit non-standard. Currently only enter chooses the currently highlighted item and jumps to the next box. Usually tab does this too, and it must be dozens of times I've hit tab and then had to return to complete the tag name. 2. The show gps tracks button looks like eraser. I think it's supposed to look like a gps receiver. This would need a better button, maybe a few dotted lines crossing or so. 3. There should be a way to remove a key-value pair without clearing the fields. E.g. there could be a small minus sign next to a pair to remove that pair. 4. There should be a way to show all possible options in the preset type menu (the button with image left to the actual presets). This could be done, for example, by showing all the possibilities if the user clicks and holds it. 5. I don't know how easy this would be but I'd like to see Nasa's Landsat images besides OpenAerial's as Nasa's seem to have better colours around here. -- Lauri Hahne ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Lauri Hahne wrote: There are few quirks currently with Potlatch. I hope somebody could fix these :D Some good suggestions, thanks! 1. The auto complete is great but its behaviour is a bit non-standard. Currently only enter chooses the currently highlighted item and jumps to the next box. Usually tab does this too, and it must be dozens of times I've hit tab and then had to return to complete the tag name. Ha, I'm never sure what to do with this one. Tab is standard for people who are used to *nix shells. On Windows and OS X, IME, tab jumps from field to field. Enter/Return selects from an auto-complete menu (e.g. Safari, Excel). (The behaviour of tab in auto-complete apps is inconsistent, on OS X at least.) Potlatch is following Windows/OS X behaviour rather than *nix shell behaviour. It's important that there's a keypress for move to next field without auto-complete, so that you can type high=very as well as highway=primary. (I will for the moment ignore those who feel there should be RULES to PREVENT non-standard tags being USED.) As to whether this is Tab or Enter, I'm not greatly fussed, but it seems more logical to me that Enter should stick with its general sense of accept choice. 5. I don't know how easy this would be but I'd like to see Nasa's Landsat images besides OpenAerial's as Nasa's seem to have better colours around here. Potlatch will accept any tile source in the standard spherical Mercator (like-Google/900913) projection/tile system used by OSM and a zillion others. I don't know of anyone offering standard-issue NASA Landsat in such a form (and who'd be willing to let us leach their bandwidth), but let me know if you do! cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Matt White wrote: The alternative to the above (although it would be good in its own right) would be a change to the way a t junction is made. every time I connect a way that is perpendicular to an existing stright way, it creates the joining node, but it often shifts the new node a little bit, making the previous straight road kinked. It's a right pain.Same thing often happens when I create a node in the middle of a way - the node isn't created in the same line - it gets a little offset. You're quite right. That annoys me too. (As you've probably guessed, it puts the new point at the mouse-click rather than on the exact point on the line near the mouse-click.) I don't know why I've not fixed it already... cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Couple of ideas for potlatch A make this way straight button would be handy. I know this is available in JOSM, but I like Potlatch better (mostly cos I do a lot of country road work and it's just easier to use potlatch to edit, scroll a bit edit etc than keep downloading new sections in JOSM) The alternative to the above (although it would be good in its own right) would be a change to the way a t junction is made. every time I connect a way that is perpendicular to an existing stright way, it creates the joining node, but it often shifts the new node a little bit, making the previous straight road kinked. It's a right pain.Same thing often happens when I create a node in the middle of a way - the node isn't created in the same line - it gets a little offset. Hoepfully that's clear-ish Matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: There are few quirks currently with Potlatch. I hope somebody could fix these :D Some good suggestions, thanks! 1. The auto complete is great but its behaviour is a bit non-standard. Currently only enter chooses the currently highlighted item and jumps to the next box. Usually tab does this too, and it must be dozens of times I've hit tab and then had to return to complete the tag name. Ha, I'm never sure what to do with this one. Tab is standard for people who are used to *nix shells. On Windows and OS X, IME, tab jumps from field to field. Enter/Return selects from an auto-complete menu (e.g. Safari, Excel). (The behaviour of tab in auto-complete apps is inconsistent, on OS X at least.) Potlatch is following Windows/OS X behaviour rather than *nix shell behaviour. It's important that there's a keypress for move to next field without auto-complete, so that you can type high=very as well as highway=primary. (I will for the moment ignore those who feel there should be RULES to PREVENT non-standard tags being USED.) As to whether this is Tab or Enter, I'm not greatly fussed, but it seems more logical to me that Enter should stick with its general sense of accept choice. I wouldn't mind if you reverse them. I'm also used to jump from field to field using tab and it bites me as well quite often that I use tab when I mean enter. Polyglot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: [autocomplete] Tab works in JOSM and Excel. I'll take your word for it on JOSM, I don't use it - though people got cross enough when JOSM borrowed modeless operation from Potlatch that I'm a bit wary of UI cross-fertilisation. ;) Excel's not the same. Excel doesn't autocomplete at all (at least on the OS X 2001 version) unless you press the cursor keys to select from the menu first: if you just press Tab it doesn't autocomplete on the first entry. Effectively, in Excel, the cursor keys do the autocomplete (as they do in Potlatch). The difference is that Potlatch _also_ autocompletes on Enter. To echo Excel's behaviour in Potlatch, this would have to be removed, therefore requiring an extra keypress to autocomplete the default entry - a retrograde step IMO. [...] Excel under Windows suggests values as selected text as you type, it auto-completes when you move out of the cell, i.e. by using any of the 3 noted keys. However, it does not show a list of options to select from, it only suggests auto-completion when you have typed enough for there to be only one auto-complete option. (Not that this would be good behaviour in potlatch) -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
On 27 Feb 2008, at 10:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: [autocomplete] Tab works in JOSM and Excel. I'll take your word for it on JOSM, I don't use it - though people got cross enough when JOSM borrowed modeless operation from Potlatch that I'm a bit wary of UI cross-fertilisation. ;) Excel's not the same. Excel doesn't autocomplete at all (at least on the OS X 2001 version) unless you press the cursor keys to select from What, you don't use Numbers? the menu first: if you just press Tab it doesn't autocomplete on the first entry. Effectively, in Excel, the cursor keys do the autocomplete (as they do in Potlatch). The difference is that Potlatch _also_ autocompletes on Enter. To echo Excel's behaviour in Potlatch, this would have to be removed, therefore requiring an extra keypress to autocomplete the default entry - a retrograde step IMO. [...] I don't know what server JOSM uses for its Landsat though it probably is in UTM. I believe the JOSM plugin talks to a WMS server. I don't have any plans to add WMS client capability to Potlatch - it's an old technology on its way out and there's things I'd rather spend my time on. Of course, that doesn't stop anyone else doing so. What about the other ideas? All sensible, didn't feel they needed debating. :) cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
SteveC wrote: On 27 Feb 2008, at 10:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Excel's not the same. Excel doesn't autocomplete at all (at least on the OS X 2001 version) unless you press the cursor keys to select from What, you don't use Numbers? Only just got iWork '08 and started playing. Pages is _lovely_. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
