Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-04 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 17:53 2013-12-03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: besides the bitcoin tag there is a name, a website, a phone number and a human readable note. Clicking on the website you'll also get an adress (housenumber). On 19:06 2013-12-03, Steve Bennett wrote: There's no way OSM really wants to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/4 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com There's no way OSM really wants to be a database of every single registered (or even unregistered!) business, surely? Huh? IMHO we DO want to have every single registered / physically existing business in OSM, and I couldn't see why not? They will

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-04 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I think the criterion has to be physically, not registered. Many business are registred but don't exist physically excepted on a named postbox. Physical fits better. There are many unregistered businesses that have physical

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-04 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer Huh? IMHO we DO want to have every single registered / physically existing business in OSM, and I couldn't see why not? I think the criterion has to be physically, not registered. Many business are registred but don't exist physically

[OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi Fred and others interested, I respectfully disagree that the disagree example items would be (blatant) spam. They are clearly all missing what I call a primary (classifying) tag (shop=* or office=* most likely for all referenced). And there are some tagging mistakes too on existing tags. Like

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03.12.2013 23:50, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: And perhaps we should have better documentation / stated policy on adjectives / tone of the description tag? Clearly anything in there must be verifiable on the ground. 20 years of experience or satisfaction guaranteed are hardly ;) I

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Gotcha. I think we're taking mostly about same things... If there's no office or shop (or a warehouse or something tangible, PO box not being enough) there's no space for our in OSM db. I may have over reacted partly because I've both heard of and dealt with a number of people who have found it

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/4 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org I'm wary of such POIs where the location may be correct but of no interest. If they are a mail-order firm or a spiritual movement and place a POI at their registered address for the sole purpose of getting their name and telephone number and

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: There are many businesses where you can't go and buy something, but still they should be in OSM. Think of a car manufacturer, you can't go there and buy a car. Yeah but the difference is a manufacturing plant