Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-23 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
SteveC steve at asklater.com writes: I discovered that people are just rectifying using google aerial and stuff, which breaks our paranoid/cautious stance on accepting copyright derived work. I speak now only about the i-cubed Landsat layer because OpenAerialMap does not have anything

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[cc:ed to legal-talk] Andy Allan wrote: That's pretty clear cut - i-Cubed own copyright over the imagery, and haven't given anyone any rights to do stuff with them - unless they explicitly say otherwise. Public Domain isn't viral for derived works. Probably the biggest thing I've learned

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: Aren't OSM's GPS traces considered CC-BY-SA as well? I haven't seen anything specifically licensing them, but they are in the OSM database, accessible via the OSM API so I err on the side of assuming the CC-BY-SA licence applies to them too. They're not explicitly licensed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Probably the biggest thing I've learned about copyright since getting involved with OSM is how easy it is to overstate your rights as copyright holder. Most do it because they don't know better. (Some don't even write the name Microsoft in a public article because tehy somehow think

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread SteveC
I discovered that people are just rectifying using google aerial and stuff, which breaks our paranoid/cautious stance on accepting copyright derived work. On 21 May 2008, at 21:55, Tomáš Tichý wrote: What happened to Openaerialmap layer in Potlatch? I see only - signs on the place

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Andy Allan
The wording of the main/first data source never filled me with confidence either: There is currently some question as to the licensing terms for this data. This is being resolved as quickly as possible. Until then, it is best to assume that this imagery can not be used outside of OpenAerialMap.

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Andy Allan gravitystorm at gmail.com writes: The wording of the main/first data source never filled me with confidence either: There is currently some question as to the licensing terms for this data. This is being resolved as quickly as possible. Until then, it is best to assume that

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Jukka Rahkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that what is uncertain with OpenAerialMap is if the imagery that is colour adjusted by i-Cubed can be taken out from OAM, not if you can do derived work based on it. That's pretty clear cut - i-Cubed own

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[cc:ed to legal-talk] Andy Allan wrote: That's pretty clear cut - i-Cubed own copyright over the imagery, and haven't given anyone any rights to do stuff with them - unless they explicitly say otherwise. Public Domain isn't viral for derived works. Probably the biggest thing I've learned

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Is there any way to enable only safe data layers from OAM in Potlatch? I am writing this, because there is black and white aerial imagery of the Czech Republic from local goverment agency (UHUL), which permitted to use it for OSM mapping. This imagery is now part of OAM data. It is possible to

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 22 May 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: (It's reasonably easily settled - either get Google to give the ok, or rerectify against OSM. Better still, rerectify against OSM's GPS traces alone, thereby sidestepping potential CC-BY-SA issues.) Aren't OSM's GPS traces considered CC-BY-SA as

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: Aren't OSM's GPS traces considered CC-BY-SA as well? I haven't seen anything specifically licensing them, but they are in the OSM database, accessible via the OSM API so I err on the side of assuming the CC-BY-SA licence applies to them too. They're not explicitly licensed

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Doesn't feel to me like a confident, unambigious, free to use in OSM phrase. On the other hand, we don't have anything in written from Yahoo! either, so if you want to be paranoid then drop Yahoo as well. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09

[OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-21 Thread Tomáš Tichý
What happened to Openaerialmap layer in Potlatch? I see only - signs on the place where it was in menu. Tomas Tichy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk