On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:07:45 + (GMT), Joe Richards
joefis...@yahoo.com
You make a valid point, but the instant reaction of a few people I showed
openstreetmap.org to in Australia was oh a map of Europe/UK. It was
only
after a bit of scrolling/panning that they got the idea, it was a bit
Free-thinking from ignorance of how practical it would be for the
developer...
Maybe one way of foregrounding OSM's data-richness would be to have access
to some of this detail - and ideally an edit option (just the tags for that
area/way/node) - if you click on something. This takes you from I
You're correct.
Everybody knows it should centre on Dublin...
k.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com wrote:
It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over
the world.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald
2009/6/18 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com:
On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Joe Richards wrote:
Maybe http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0lon=-0zoom=2 would be more
diplomatic, but then we should be using a map that did not make the
Uk, India, Brazil and New Zealand all the same size. snip
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dave Stubbsosm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
2009/6/18 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com:
On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Joe Richards wrote:
Maybe http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0lon=-0zoom=2 would be more
diplomatic, but then we should be using a map that did not
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.I checked
it (from other random computers, not my laptop) when I was in Thailand and
Australia and it always showed the UK. Is the UK the default if IP
On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote:
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with
OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.
I checked it (from other random computers, not my laptop) when I was
in Thailand and Australia and it
It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the
world.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald
sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote:
On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote:
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that
2009/6/17 Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com:
It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over the
world.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk
wrote:
On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote:
One of the main annoyances that people
On Wednesday 17 Jun 2009 19:19:20 Eric Wolf wrote:
It's just the Brits trying to re-establish their imperial dominance over
the world.
I'll submit a suggestion on trac for the appropriate changes to the
stylesheets: http://tinyurl.com/ns8852
Regards,
Tom
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/three.jpg
I don't find that too bad actually. But it has no map on the first page.
I vehemently stated that we're about data, not about slippy maps, in the
talk-de discussion; however
Ah yeah, those were the days when we didn't have a reliably working
map on the front page, so we were looking for alternatives (you can
just make out the map image is the old linework-on-landsat version.
But that's not an issue any more.
Well, but it is an issue that the map we show off now,
2009/6/16 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com:
Well, but it is an issue that the map we show off now, is not exactly
feature rich (plain text: is nothing to show off). So I think the discussion
is warranted to either add more bliing bling to the map, or give it a less
dominant status.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/three.jpg
I don't find that too bad actually. But it has no map on the first page.
I vehemently stated that we're about data, not about slippy maps, in the
talk-de discussion; however
I agree with Martin. It would be nice to keep the map prominent on the
home page... but add more interactivity. Permalinks with markers would
be a big advantage as it would make the map more functional without
adding too much overhead. When I want to point something out to
someone, I send the URL
I disagree because I think, the map is the best way to show our
potential
Well, clearly not. The potential of OSM is not that we can produce a nice
slippy map. Google did that just fine. The potential is that you can do a
lot more with the osm data, than you can with any copyrighted map-API
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, brendan barrettshogun...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a compromise would be to have some links to other versions of
the map
If the layer selector was exposed by default, that would have a big impact.
Cheers,
Andy
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps a compromise would be to have some links to other versions of
the map
If the layer selector was exposed by default, that would have a big impact.
better IMHO would be to have thumbnails of same area, different
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:40:35 +0200, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com
better IMHO would be to have thumbnails of same area, different
design/features.
I like this approach as part of the three column layout, and I would use
four thumbnails for people to get at the map:
- default
- osmarender
- public transport (http://www.öpnvkarte.de)
Oh. I like that. I didn't realise it covered countries outside Germany as well.
And I didn’t know that there were bus route relations anywhere near here.
There's an added incentive to get around to adding the two bus routes I traced
the weekend
I also like the 3 column layout as it is a lot more inviting to potential
new recruits than the current page.
Map thumbnails also seem like a good idea although I would drop osmarender
as a thumbnail and replace it with a topographic hiking map or maybe a
rotating spot for the likes of
On 16 Jun 2009, at 05:55, Simone Cortesi wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org
wrote:
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/three.jpg
I don't find that too bad actually. But it has no map on the first
page.
I vehemently stated that we're about data,
We're about data - the map IS the data. I defy anyone to illustrate more
data in any other way.
Maybe the map should try to show more of the data (render the lines narrow
so more shows up, maybe with names appearing at only higher zooms) rather
than the default being an all-purpose street map.
On Jun 16, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Tom Chance wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:40:35 +0200, Simone Cortesi
sim...@cortesi.com
better IMHO would be to have thumbnails of same area, different
design/features.
I like this approach as part of the three column layout, and I would
use
four
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.
What are people's thoughts about the default zoom?
I'm aware that sometimes it may use a cookie and so the map will open
up to a previously viewed area -
What I was thinking about for some time for experimenting on
www.openstreetmap.pl was that the subset of data would be loaded
together with the bitmap tiles in a txt or json file and objects such
as big roads or buildings highlight when you mouse over them, perhaps
after a short delay.
Hi,
Kevin Peat wrote:
I don't think we should drop maps completely from the front page but I think
we should show more of what is special about the project.
That's what I was thinking. Whether the map is the data or not -
Google has a map, and it is (currently) more complete and faster than
Maybe we could also leverage the new part of HTML 5 that enables
geolocation to center the map on the user's current location. I know
IE doesn't support it yet, but waiting for IE support of a new
technology is pretty much like saying that you will lag years behind...
Yann
Le 16 juin 09 à
2009/6/16 Tim Waters (chippy) chippy2...@gmail.com:
(One main difference on other sites is that their search box is much
more prominent)
I don't even see more than 5 pixels at it at my resolution.
To suggest something less radical than a complete redesign of osm.org:
Could it please be moved
On 16 Jun 2009, at 11:38, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote:
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.
I thought that the IP 2 geo stuff was in there to make it default to
the country it thinks you're
On 16 Jun 2009, at 19:38, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote:
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.
Only if they have a UK IP. Getting more specific than country level is
usually unreliable.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Shaun
McDonaldsh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:
Would zooming based on IP Address be a good idea?
Already done to the country level.
I'm in South Africa... and it defaults to the UK for me. Obviously if
I return to the site, then the cookie kicks in and the map
2009/6/15 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com:
Move the map
Please don't move the map. It sums-up a lot (not everything but a
lot) of what we do.
OPEN - edit button
STREET - the data
MAP - its geo
--
cheers,
maning
--
Freedom is still
2009/6/17 Tim Waters (chippy) chippy2...@gmail.com
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.
Presumably these are people who are in the UK?
What are people's thoughts about the default zoom?
Le mardi 16 juin 2009 à 22:45, SteveC a écrit :
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM
is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK.
I thought that the IP 2 geo stuff was in there to make it default to
the country it thinks you're
Hi all,
there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the appearance of the
openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the project, speaking people who
heard of it for the first time and come around to see if they (and how) they
will be able to use it for their goals (note: not all of them
Peter wrote:
there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the
appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the
project
The front page design was mentioned here in early March, and pointed
to a wiki page where there was some brief discussion:
Hi,
Ed Loach wrote:
Peter wrote:
there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the
appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the
project
The front page design was mentioned here in early March, and pointed
to a wiki page where there was some brief discussion:
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
Hi,
Ed Loach wrote:
Peter wrote:
there has been a quite lively debate on talk-de about the
appearance of the openstreetmap.org page to newcomers to the
project
The front page design was mentioned here in early March, and pointed
to a wiki page
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