[OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread David Earl
From today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/ordnance-survey-google-maps (not reference to OpenStreetMap towards the end). and the letter from OS which provoked it: http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/docs/use-of-google-maps-for-display-and-promotion.pdf David

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Donald Allwright
From today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/ordnance-survey-google-maps (not reference to OpenStreetMap towards the end). and the letter from OS which provoked it: http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/docs/use-of-google-maps-for-display-and-promotion.pdf David This

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:14 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: and the letter from OS which provoked it: http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/docs/use-of-google-maps-for-display-and-promotion.pdf To me it seems that OS is broadening it's business into the seriously overstating rights trade...

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread David Earl
On 20/11/2008 12:58, Donald Allwright wrote: From today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/ordnance-survey-google-maps (not reference to OpenStreetMap towards the end). and the letter from OS which provoked it:

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Donald Allwright
I had some contact with the RoW officer at Cambridgeshire County Council recently (he was pointing out that we had a footway down as a cycleway, though it still is because I didn't think I could use his info based as it was on an OS base map!) Now that's an angle I'd not thought of before! So

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Gustav Foseid wrote: To me it seems that OS is broadening it's business into the seriously overstating rights trade... It seems to me that in this situation, the bad guys are not the OS but Google. Google has recently modified their terms of use, making clear that they automatically

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Donald Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the current tagging doesn't seem to have enough granularity here. The highway=path, highway=footway, foot=yes, horse=designated etc. tags doesn't seem to include a way of actually saying if a path is a public

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Actually, the current tagging doesn't seem to have enough granularity here. The highway=path, highway=footway, foot=yes, horse=designated etc. tags doesn't seem to include a way of actually saying if a path is a public right of way or a permissive path. It does. The yes value for a tag means

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Donald Allwright
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access foot = yes = legal right of way foot = permissive = permissive path Unfortunately, Potlatch has been adding lots of * = yes for a while by default, so it's hard to tell whether the contributor understands the implications of the =yes tags and

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK

2008-11-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg Sent: 20 November 2008 3:27 PM To: Donald Allwright Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its stranglehold over derived geographic data in the UK Actually, the current tagging doesn't seem to have enough granularity here. The highway