Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:15:44PM +0200, Mitja Kleider wrote: I would like to see a bugtracker like this on the main page. My first attempts to get in touch failed and I lost interest. Candid Dauth is currently working on a client that can easily be added as a layer in OpenLayers. How far

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of SteveC Sent: 02 July 2009 1:16 PM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
[mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of SteveC Sent: 02 July 2009 1:16 PM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Mitja Kleider
Am Freitag, 17. Juli 2009 schrieb Florian Lohoff: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:15:44PM +0200, Mitja Kleider wrote: I would like to see a bugtracker like this on the main page. My first attempts to get in touch failed and I lost interest. Candid Dauth is currently working on a client that can

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] wrote: Sent: 17 July 2009 2:30 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'SteveC'; 'Frederik Ramm'; 'Talk Openstreetmap' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM Bug should be separate from the real data. The bugs should stored

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] wrote: Sent: 17 July 2009 2:30 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'SteveC'; 'Frederik Ramm'; 'Talk Openstreetmap' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 17 Jul 2009, at 16:00, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] wrote: Sent: 17 July 2009 2:30 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'SteveC'; 'Frederik Ramm'; 'Talk Openstreetmap' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM Bug

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] wrote: Sent: 17 July 2009 4:20 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'SteveC'; 'Frederik Ramm'; 'Talk Openstreetmap' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM On 17 Jul 2009, at 16:00, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Shaun

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason why we don't just put the bugs in osm. They could be nodes, ways or polygons and just have a suitable bug=description key value pair plus any other tags need (date opened/closed etc).

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/7/17 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com That's practically an argument for keeping them separate in the first place. For the same reason that we have trac for software bugs (we don't get people to add new bug reports in comments into the source files) we shouldn't put bugs directly

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Eugene Alvin Villar [mailto:sea...@gmail.com] wrote: Sent: 17 July 2009 4:56 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: SteveC; Frederik Ramm; Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: 1. A separate database is desirable. [...] Are points sufficient for marking bugs? I'd say not. I'd like to be able to set a polygon as well and possibly even a line. No different from a

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-15 Thread Robert Scott
On Tuesday 14 July 2009, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:15:44PM +0200, Mitja Kleider wrote: There is kind of an API, it is already used by the JOSM openstreetbugs plugin. You can use it to create, comment, close or fetch bugs. If other API features are needed, they can

[OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-14 Thread Mitja Kleider
(This is a reply to the original mail by SteveC this month.) I created the new OSB because I wanted reliable access to the data. I think that this goal was reached. There is kind of an API, it is already used by the JOSM openstreetbugs plugin. You can use it to create, comment, close or fetch

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-14 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:15:44PM +0200, Mitja Kleider wrote: There is kind of an API, it is already used by the JOSM openstreetbugs plugin. You can use it to create, comment, close or fetch bugs. If other API features are needed, they can be added. The source code and database structure is

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the user interface to offer functionality. I'd kind of taken that as read

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Dair Grant
Frederik Ramm wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the user interface to offer functionality.

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dair Grant wrote: Is the bugs database really so different in character to the map database though? Provided there was a planet-style dump of the bug database, anyone wishing to build an external system could easily do so. As I tried to point out in my other message, if there is to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Hughes
Frederik Ramm wrote: This is something that must not be lost. Yes, any application can upload their bug via the REST interface, but they can hardly upload an algorithm on how to deal with the bug. So in order not to lose the flexibility of the ecosystem we currently have, we should make an

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading of bugs. We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose more of the bugs. I believe that the types of bugs one can look for are

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jul 2009, at 21:15, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 11:19, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Boehme
Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Böhme
SteveC wrote: On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading of bugs. We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose more of the bugs. I believe that the types of bugs one can look

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Jonas Krückel
Christoph Boehme schrieb: Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all

[OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread SteveC
I've been thinking a bit about how bugs work in OSM. I really like the way OSB works http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/ But it's closed source afaik and doesn't have an API. It uses human input. new OSB is cool and tries to fix some of this

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Renaud Martinet
I think there was some talk about that last year (march or june) when OSB appeared. If I remember, people liked the interface because it's rather nice and it lowers the entry level. So more people submit bugs and eventually also fix them, we get a better map and all is well. But it has also been

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Tom Chance
Steve, All good ideas, as data becomes ever more densely and confusingly packed (just open Potlach in a completed Germany city!) the OSB site offers a nice way for Human Beings to get involved. Three thoughts: 1 - Being able to show which logged-in users submitted bugs would be a great help

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading of bugs. We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose more of the bugs. I believe that the types of bugs one can look for are quite different. You'd have to build a very good

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: You go to http://bugs.openstreetmap.org/ There's a big map of bugs which looks similar to OSB. It doesn't know who you are and drops you in to beginner mode which shows bugs that I like this. If it's idiot proof and it does

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Nic Roetsnro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: You go to http://bugs.openstreetmap.org/ There's a big map of bugs which looks similar to OSB. It doesn't know who you are and drops you in to beginner mode which

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you