Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

I have been working as a developer for thirty years, and had never encountered the term "attic data" before this discussion. On 02/04/2016 01:03 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: This time with correct sender ☺ On February 4, 2016 10:15:45 AM GMT+01:00, Stephan Knauss wrote: Hello Dave and others,

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

That's great I suppose, but wouldn't using simple language in wikis be much easier? Also, your page isn't linked from anywhere. which is half the point of hyperlinked wiki pages? Dave F. On 07/02/2016 15:24, Martijn van Exel wrote: There is now a wiki page. I initially added the content

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On 07/02/2016 09:43, malenki wrote: Why is there no explanation of it's meaning? After too much time using google I find it means old information. Why not say that? Wouldn't 'historical snapshot' be a bit clearer? A year ago I would liked to have found an explanation of "Attic Data" too, since

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:44:38 +, Dave F wrote: > On 07/02/2016 09:43, malenki wrote: > >> Why is there no explanation of it's meaning? After too much time > >> using google I find it means old information. Why not say that? > >> Wouldn't 'historical snapshot' be a bit clearer? > > A year ago

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 22:06:32 +, Dave F wrote: > So often I'm put off from delving further into OSM & its uses by the > confusing nature of it's wiki pages. > > A simple example: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Attic_data_.28.22date.22.29 > > Why is it

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

There is now a wiki page. I initially added the content of Roland's email. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attic_Data On Sun, Feb 7, 2016, 3:02 AM malenki wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 22:06:32 +, > Dave F wrote: > > > So often I'm put off from delving further into OSM &

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

The "attic" is used (in previous non-hipster software development times) as the place for storage of outdated/dead etc code Now days it is called github :-). Simon Am 04.02.2016 um 08:12 schrieb Paul Johnson: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Maarten Deen

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

Hi all, Why is it headed as 'Attic Data'? Why is there no explanation of it's meaning? After too much time using google I find it means old information. Why not say that? Wouldn't 'historical snapshot' be a bit clearer? It is on purpose not named 'historical'. It would have become a homonym,

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 05:18:31 +0100 Marc Gemis wrote: > I wonder whether this some expression in German that is translated > literally in English. > > m. > My guess is it harks back to the habit of the wealthy people of moving the old and worn furnature up into the attics

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

Hi, On 02/04/2016 11:08 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > The "attic" is used (in previous non-hipster software development > times) as the place for storage of outdated/dead etc code ... going back at least as far as CVS where I first encountered the term as a place where deleted stuff gets kept. Bye

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

This time with correct sender ☺ On February 4, 2016 10:15:45 AM GMT+01:00, Stephan Knauss wrote: >Hello Dave and others, > >While I agree in general that the wiki should be as understandable for >beginners as possible, please be aware that the audience of your >mentioned page are not beginners.

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 22:06:32 + Dave F wrote: > Why is it headed as 'Attic Data'? AFAIK it is how this is named internally in Overpass API - see https://github.com/drolbr/Overpass-API/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93=attic ___

[OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

Hi So often I'm put off from delving further into OSM & its uses by the confusing nature of it's wiki pages. A simple example: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Attic_data_.28.22date.22.29 Why is it headed as 'Attic Data'? Why is there no explanation of it's

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

I suspect you're onto something here; it's not a phrase that's even in my GIS vernacular. Don't even recall it from college experience (though I took French and majored in civil engineering; amazing I'm not mapping professionally)... On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Marc Gemis

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:06 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2016-02-04 07:58, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> I suspect you're onto something here; it's not a phrase that's even in >> my GIS vernacular. Don't even recall it from college experience >> (though I took French and majored in

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

On 2016-02-04 07:58, Paul Johnson wrote: I suspect you're onto something here; it's not a phrase that's even in my GIS vernacular. Don't even recall it from college experience (though I took French and majored in civil engineering; amazing I'm not mapping professionally)... True. I think

Re: [OSM-talk] What is 'Attic Data'? or 'Why can't wiki writers use plain language'.

I wonder whether this some expression in German that is translated literally in English. m. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > So often I'm put off from delving further into OSM & its uses by the > confusing nature of it's wiki pages. > > A