[OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
Hi, I like to create bridges between projects, so now I was looking into the name:etymology:wikidata tag. And I have a question about it. Say, you have a Rue de la Chapelle Rue de la Station I'd be inclined to make it point to the specific instance of chapel or station. The other possibility

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
That's what is proposed here though: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata And it keeps that particular wikidata tag nicely together with the name when sorted alphabetically. Jo 2015-07-31 17:01 GMT+02:00 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: On Fr, Jul 31, 2015 at 04:27:05

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
On 31/07/15 16:09, Jo wrote: That's what is proposed here though: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata And it keeps that particular wikidata tag nicely together with the name when sorted alphabetically. I don't see any point loading our servers down with wikidata

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Ruben Maes
2015-07-31 17:21 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: On 31/07/15 16:09, Jo wrote: That's what is proposed here though: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata And it keeps that particular wikidata tag nicely together with the name when sorted alphabetically. I

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Ruben Maes
2015-07-31 17:31 GMT+02:00 Ruben Maes ru...@janmaes.com: I'd say make a reference to the actual object is named after, not just to 'church'. Although this might not always be clear. There is a street called Church Street near me and it has two churches. Which church is the street named after?

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 31.07.2015 um 17:31 schrieb Ruben Maes ru...@janmaes.com: I'd say make a reference to the actual object is named after, not just to 'church'. +1, if you then want all churches you can ask wikidata which of the tagged specific instances are churches. cheers Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
On 31/07/15 16:35, Jo wrote: Due to the fact that our ids are not stable, the only reasonable way to add links between wikidata and OSM is to tag objects on our side. I spent some time convincing the people at wikidata about this over a year ago. I had thought it was obvious for OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fr, Jul 31, 2015 at 04:27:05 +0200, Jo wrote: I like to create bridges between projects, so now I was looking into the name:etymology:wikidata tag. Whatever you do, do not use an abomination like name:etymology:wikidata, because to a computer it looks like it is a name-Tag with the language

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
Due to the fact that our ids are not stable, the only reasonable way to add links between wikidata and OSM is to tag objects on our side. I spent some time convincing the people at wikidata about this over a year ago. I had thought it was obvious for OSM contributors. Polyglot 2015-07-31 17:21

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 31.07.2015 um 18:16 schrieb Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: or you simply read the information in wikidata/wikipedia. given that even the street of the seven churches around here (via delle sette chiese) doesn't have its own WP/Wikidata article yet (although

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
Since all the streets of The Netherlands already made their way into wikidata, I think it's reasonable to add other streets as well and indeed it's possible/desirable to say in wikidata what was named after something else. Wikidata is not Wikipedia, which indeed suffers from the problem that what

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 05:31:48PM +0200, Ruben Maes wrote: 2015-07-31 17:21 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: On 31/07/15 16:09, Jo wrote: That's what is proposed here though: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata And it keeps that particular wikidata

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Lester Caine
On 31/07/15 17:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: or you simply read the information in wikidata/wikipedia. given that even the street of the seven churches around here (via delle sette chiese) doesn't have its own WP/Wikidata article yet (although referenced a lot, e.g. here: