[talk-ph] Allied Bank branches are now PNB branches (planned mechanical edit)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden ianlopez
A few days ago, I noticed that an Allied Bank branch nearest to my place is now a PNB branch. I believe that the changes are part of a plan to integrate operations between PNB and Allied Bank after the merger[1].Thus, the need for a mechanical edit to make the needed changes. Affected areas:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Guy Vanvuchelen
We spreken over 'huisnummers' en 'brievenbussen'. Hetzelfde en toch verschillend. Huisnummers worden gebruikt voor navigatie. Maar brievenbussen hebben dan weer belang voor postbedeling, meer nog voor reclame, flyers, enz. Concreet kan het belangrijk zijn om te weten hoeveel brievenbussen er in

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
Als je gewoon wil weten hoeveel brievenbussen er zijn, volstaat het om een (en ik bedenk hier maar wat) number-of-flats=4 of zo op het gebouw te plaatsen daarvoor heb je misschien die uitsplitsing misschien niet nodig. Maar ik kan me ook voorstellen dat het voor hulpdiensten handig is als men

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jo
Ik ben al redelijk wat aan het experimenteren geweest met huisnummers. Met de tools die de JOSM plugin biedt, komen de nummers nogal gemakkelijk op het gebouw terecht. Hier zie je een voorbeeld van het gebruik van nodes aan de voordeur: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.02572/4.73584 Wat

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
Onlangs nog gelezen dat we feitelijk deze zin te pas en te onpas gebruikebnkt. We mappen feitelijk wel voor de renderer, we mogen alleen niet iets misbruiken om de renderer te misleiden. (alleen was het beter verwoord dan wat ik nu schrijf zoek maar eens op in het archief

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Guy Vanvuchelen
Nog een probleem in verband met adressen en associatedStreet. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.81842 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.81842mlon=4.88413#map=18/50.81842/4. 88413 mlon=4.88413#map=18/50.81842/4.88413 In Kumtich kom ik volgend probleem tegen: in de Druysstraat staat

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
Wat is het officiele adres ? Los van wat de historiek is van dit huis ? Een associatedStreet relatie is net gemaakt voor van die verre huizen toch te koppelen aan de straat.Volgens de uitleg van u denk ik dat de Druysstraat niet officieel is ? Als dat zo is, verwijderen die handel en

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
mijn oplossing is dat als de officiele naam Bruulstraat 25 is, het huis ook in de associatedStreet Bruulstraat moet komen. Het speelt hierbij geen rol of het stukje straat voor de deur anders noemt. Het stukje straat voor de deur komt gewoon in de relatie met dezelfde naam als de straat, dus

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Guy Vanvuchelen
De realiteit is dat aan het begin en het einde een plaat staat met de naam 'Druysstraat' (ook op het stratenplan van Tienen). Omdat ik het verdacht vond dat de nummering van 4 naar 25 sprong heb ik het adres op de brievenbus genoteerd en dat blijkt: Bruulstraat 25 te zijn. Guy Vanvuchelen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Guy Vanvuchelen
Prima. Voor het laatste geval is zelfs de voordeur niet goed. Wel de ingang van de oprit. Ik zie het niet zitten om, voor de derde keer, alles nog maar eens te wijzigen. Zo blijven we bezig. Wel vind ik het nuttig om in die speciale gevallen een node op de juiste plaats te zetten. En dan maar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
Je hebt gelijk dat we niet telkens van manier van taggen moeten veranderen. Maar omdat we nu al behoorlijk wat ervaring krijgen met al dit soort problemen, en we binnenkort met de import van Agiv data kunnen beginnen, vind ik het belangrijk om de huidige manier van mappen te toetsen. Voldoet ze

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
Ik zou het laten staan zoals het is, als er een consensus komt is het kinderspel om dit via OverPass API op te lossen, al die notaties die ik daar opsomde, die kan je allemaal opvangen en uniform zetten via Overpass, hoe het ook uitdraait. Kwestie van paar uurkes werk, en je heb heel belgie

[OSM-talk-be] Uniformiteit van data (was Newbie: Huis vatten)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
Glenn, jij speelt toch graag met Overpass. We zouden misschien eens uniformiteit moeten nastreven in winkelketens ook, bv Blokker, Kruidvat e.d. Daar zijn nogal wat verschillende types shop aanwezig. Ook heeft men mij eens aangeraden om benzine stations een brand, name, (en waar mogelijk) een

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jo
Net voor zulke uitzonderlijke gevallen vind ik dat de AS-relatie de oplossing bij uitstek is. Glenn, er is een groot verschil tussen huisnummer op gebouw en huisnummer op voordeur/brievenbus/inrit en ik zie niet hoe je dat snel kunt omzetten van het ene naar het andere met Overpass. Van node naar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
2013/10/21 Jo winfi...@gmail.com Mijn voorkeur zou ook uitgaan naar aparte nodes voor de adressen. De volgende vraag is dan: zetten we die gewoon ergens binnen de gebouwcontour? Of zetten we die dan waar de voordeur is, met nog een extra entrance=main? (Mijn voorkeur, veel eenvoudiger om te

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jo
Je hebt daar natuurlijk wel gelijk in. Straatnaam op de ways zetten is uiteraard historisch zo gekomen. Er waren eerst ways, dan relaties. Ik denk niet dat we dat nu nog kunnen terugdraaien. Ook al zou het dan veel zuiverder zijn. addr:street op elk gebouw/adresnode, daar ben ik nooit voorstander

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Uniformiteit van data (was Newbie: Huis vatten)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
On 2013-10-21 11:43, Marc Gemis wrote: Glenn, jij speelt toch graag met Overpass. We zouden misschien eens uniformiteit moeten nastreven in winkelketens ook, bv Blokker, Kruidvat e.d. Daar zijn nogal wat verschillende types shop aanwezig. Niet enkel shops, ook amenities .. Ook heeft men

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
Het gaat over van dit : addr:housenumber=100b4 dit makenL addr:housenumber=100 addr:bus=4 Hypotetisch gesteld. Dat levert geen problemen op, een node blijft een node, een way blijft een way. Glenn On 2013-10-21 12:08, Jo wrote: Net voor zulke uitzonderlijke gevallen vind ik dat de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Uniformiteit van data (was Newbie: Huis vatten)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
addr:city=Weerde addr:country=BE addr:housenumber=121 addr:postcode=1982 addr:street=Damstraat amenity=fuel brand=Octa+ fuel:1_25=yes fuel:diesel=yes fuel:octane_95=yes fuel:octane_98=yes operator=Sint-Martinus Garage phone=+32 15 611511 source=survey ziet er goed uit. Sommigen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Uniformiteit van data (was Newbie: Huis vatten)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
Zijn ook 2 dingen, gebouw, een garage met een benzinepomp voor. Ik heb dit jaren geleden zo getagt, en jij zegt vandaag nog hetzelfde (operator en brand) dus denk dat we nog goed zitten :) On 2013-10-21 13:02, Marc Gemis wrote: addr:city=Weerde addr:country=BE

[OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Pierre Parmentier
Je reviens sur le message de Jo et sur la situation avec l'import UrbIS. Nous avons différentes situations : 1. contour (way) avec une adresse unique (c'est à dire un numéro) : l'adresse est sur le contour (way) 2. contour (way) avec plusieurs adresses dans l'import : plusieurs nodes

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
2013/10/21 Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com Proposed Features/Multiple addresseshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses I don't like this proposal too much. This is a relation in disguise. So why not use a real relation instead ? A building

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
And I'm not the only one: see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses none of the comments was in favor of this proposal. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/21 Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
We should stick to the current well known scheme, thinking about this renderer issue... it makes no sense to manoevre around a faulty renderer, being it nominatim or a tileserver. If a search for a street + housenumber, city returns nothing, but a search for that same street, city without

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Abelshausen
OK de relatie it is! :-) Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen 2013/10/20 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com relatie is voor mij ok, en waarschijnlijk voor alle ervaren JOSM mappers ook wel. de anderen zullen we dan ervaren moeten maken :-) m 2013/10/19 Kurt Roeckx

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Abelshausen
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote: So one thing I noticed is that they contain dates from when the housenumber was valid until when it stopped being valid. For the cases I've looked at, it seems that you just imported those housenumbers, even though they

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: I'm also wondering if we want to add some kind of reference to the ID from CRAB. I'm not in favour of keeping external id's in OSM, the address itself should be the id and you cannot rely on it staying on the map because

Re: [OSM-talk-be] biweekly hangout meetings

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
Are there any good examples of what they expect for each of those missing sections ? m On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Configure JOSM for remote control 2) Use the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Glenn Plas
On 2013-10-21 20:57, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: I'm also wondering if we want to add some kind of reference to the ID from CRAB. I'm not in favour of keeping external id's in OSM, the address itself should be the id and you cannot rely

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Abelshausen
Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: On 2013-10-21 20:57, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: I'm also wondering if we want to add some kind of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Abelshausen
Oeps, sorry for the empty mail! :-) I think we can use CRAB as a source but we will never be able to update automatically but even without an ID we should be able to detect changes and if not then most likely there will be some error in OSM or CRAB (if streetnames do not match or something). I

Re: [OSM-talk-be] biweekly hangout meetings

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Ben Abelshausen
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any good examples of what they expect for each of those missing sections ? There is a whole list here, one better than the other: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue I like this one (not their

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 09:40:07PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: I think we can use CRAB as a source but we will never be able to update automatically but even without an ID we should be able to detect changes and if not then most likely there will be some error in OSM or CRAB (if streetnames

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:06:03PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I really see no good reason not to add those IDs at this point. I don't see the harm in them. I can only see them being useful. I would actually want to propose a different import strategy: - Add the CRAB IDs to all existing

Re: [OSM-talk-be] biweekly hangout meetings

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
Gilbert, jij hebt voordien al aangegeven te willen meewerken toen er nog sprake was van een samenwerking met de Nederlanders. Is dit iets waar je ook wil bij helpen ? met vriendelijke groeten m On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 21,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB Import Tool

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
So you are going to write an algorithm that matching addresses in OSM with addresses in Crab in order to add an id. Right now there are already addresses in OSM that are not in Crab. The same might happen next year. People might have added POIs with addresses. So you will always need an address

[OSM-talk-be] Why I'm against a full automatic import (ook in het Nederlands) (Was CRAB Import Tool)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
Nederlands onderaan Allow me to explain why I'm against a full automatic import of the Crab data, as proposed on this mailing list I understand that this is the fastest way to get the data into OSM and ready for use by everybody. However, the data will then be owned by 1 or 2 people that did the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License / Copyright - OSM data for commercial use artistic map

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jonathan Harley
On 19/10/13 11:11, Beri Dániel wrote: Dear All, I would like you to have a look at my question I posted in the OSM forum yesterday. It is not an urgent matter, I'm duplicating it here as well because I would like to avoid any mistreatment of the OSM licenses. Below you can read my post

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License / Copyright - OSM data for commercial use artistic map

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Beri Dániel
Hi Jonathan! Thank you very much for clearing things up, and explaining the difference between the treatment of data sets and other things I would put on the map. The treatment of OSM *data*, and the alteration of it is fine, understood, and obviuosly I can live with it. Although, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Nick Whitelegg
I'd go the other way and abolish Winter Time. ;-) No DST = dark summer evenings. Not nice! Going on topic, not sure if something like time zones belongs in OSM. Would it not be better to use a more specialised web service to look up time zones for a given lat/lon? I'd prefer to minimise

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
Nick, this can be done for admin boundaries as well. Would you advocate removing them from OSM as well? The change to the size of the planet file if timezones are included is absolutely microscopic in the big scheme of things. There are clearly many shades of grey. It's a question of where to

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Pieren
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: The traditional consensus is that anyone can put anything in OSM It was only a consensus in the group of contributors thinking that (which is then easy to reach a consensus). This remembers me similars discussions about:

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Colin Smale
Another popular view is that these are problems for the renderer/editor, not intrinsic issues with the data. sarcasmTag as you see fit and the renderers/editors will catch up!/sarcasm The fact that coastlines are difficult to maintain with the current toolset is not an argument to not have them

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Lester Caine
Colin Smale wrote: My point is, gut feelings aside, that it is not reasonable to single out TZ boundaries for this deprecation. Actually having accurate TZ boundaries in OSM is probably more important than some of the political boundaries. The reason I've been looking into this is simply

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/21 Pieren pier...@gmail.com It was only a consensus in the group of contributors thinking that (which is then easy to reach a consensus). This remembers me similars discussions about: - hi-res aerial imagery coverage by huge polygons (Yahoo!) agree that this is not really a datum

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jukka Rahkonen
I'd go the other way and abolish Winter Time. ;-) No DST = dark summer evenings. Not nice! Going on topic, not sure if something like time zones belongs in OSM. Would it not be better to use a more specialised web service to look up time zones for a given lat/lon? I'd prefer to minimise

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Toby Murray
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Back on topic: how do you phrase an objective rule, or at least well-worded guidelines, which allow admin boundaries but disallow time zone boundaries? I wonder where the UK ceremonial counties, fire department areas,

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Philip Barnes
It is not always possible to separate admin boundaries from real world features. Rivers, roads or even hedges often define a boundary. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 21/10/2013 15:41 Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Having edited over a thousand of them, I would not be sad to see admin boundaries removed from the general OSM database. I think Russ is on to something with his ClosedStreetMap concept although that is some terrible

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming website features

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden John Firebaugh
Thanks everyone for the feedback on the redesign effort. Development work on the redesign is in a lull right now due to competing priorities, but we hope to get back to it and continue refining the design in the near future, and we'll be taking your comments here and on the pull request into

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Toby Murray
Yes, in that small fraction of cases there would be duplication of positional data. But in some cases where you think this is the case, it might actually not be. My county border was defined by a river. Now part of the river is a reservoir and the other part has shifted over time and through

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Tom Taylor
Supposing I wanted to undertake a project to solve this class of problem, either using layers or areas or something e3lse. I imagine the project would have a number of peices, since it affects the database, editors, rendering tools, and heaven knows what else. On which list would we flesh out

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Markus Lindholm
On 21 October 2013 16:41, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Having edited over a thousand of them, I would not be sad to see admin boundaries removed from the general OSM database. I think Russ is on to something with his ClosedStreetMap concept although that is some terrible branding

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Johan C
Essentially what we need is the concept of layers. Layers do have disadvantages, how to prevent data being mapped in the wrong layer for instance. I however do see the point that mappers, especially newbies, break administrative boundaries. If that happens a lot, it might be easier to 'grey them

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21/ott/2013 um 17:09 schrieb Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us: Introducing layers, although difficult to implement, would certainly simplify editing. Moving admin boundaries and land use polygons to a layer(s) would simplify basic editing. No more connecting roads to boundaries

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote: Essentially what we need is the concept of layers. I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are semantically aware of things like boundaries, and put them in the background until needed. --- Some

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Marc Gemis
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Johan C osm...@gmail.com wrote: Essentially what we need is the concept of layers. I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are semantically aware of things

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Nick Hocking
Hi Neil, I think the way to get this fixed permanently could be... Fix it one more time, re-add the note saying that the imagery is out of date and that this intersection has been surveyed. Change the source tag from nearmap to survey. Now even though one of the mnappers has a fairly colourful

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden stev391
G'day Neil, Steve, aka Steve91 here, if I have been one of the mappers that have caused issues with this intersection I apologies. As for the source of nearmap, it must have been a copy and past error, from the adjacent section of the road. I use AGRI, Bing sat images and survey for areas

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Neil Penman
Hi Steve, I left those track sections where the old off ramps were as they still existed although they have been blocked off at both ends. I think I marked those with bollards. The only current access between Diggers Way and the old Calder is a T junction on the East side. I'd be surprised if I

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Neil Penman
Just noticed the Satellite imagery has been updated. There does seem to be some kind of road being set up on the left side of the old calder as well now. I'll check that out at the weekend too. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:22 PM, stev...@email.com wrote: G'day Neil, Steve, aka Steve91 here,

Re: [talk-au] Openstreetmap Quality Issues

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden stev391
Neil, Once again, sorry if I caused any issues. I try to be careful with my map edits. The changes that you have made (just now) are more substantial than what was there prior to my work on that section of the map. The West side had the southbound access left on it and the others on the west

Re: [Talk-de] craft=beekeeper und Direktverkauf

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 20/ott/2013 um 17:55 schrieb Jörg Frings-Fürst o...@jff-webhosting.net: OK, presence_times? Syntax könnte dieselbe sein wie opening_hours -1 Anzahl taginfo für presence_time(s) 0 Witzbold, den Tag hatte ich mir gerade ausgedacht... Meiner Meinung nach gehören nicht ortsfeste

Re: [Talk-de] AIO-Ersatz für Garmin?

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Johannes Formann
Moin, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: Mir ist es wirklich vollkommen schleierhaft, wieso bei einem so starken Communityprojekt sich keiner findet, der das von Florian so schön formulierte UND EIGENTLICH WOLLTE ICH NUR EINE KARTE endlich mal zuverlässig umsetzt. Das Problem ist

Re: [Talk-de] AIO-Ersatz für Garmin?

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Sven Geggus
Johannes Formann johan...@formann.de wrote: Eine gemeinsame Plattform hätte für mich auch viele Vorteile, bräuchte deutlich weniger RAM und Traffik für meinen Server, nur wer soll die Infrastruktur betreiben? Na ja, den FOSSGIS Server gibt es ja schon. Nicht die schnellste Kiste aber

Re: [Talk-de] craft=beekeeper und Direktverkauf

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hallo Nils, zuerst einmal ich lehne das taggen nicht ab, ich bin nur der Meinung das das in den besprochenen Fällen nicht sinnvoll ist. Überlege einmal: der Stand wurde gemappt. Der Betreiber geht in Urlaub, Stand wird abgebaut -- nächster Mapper löscht den Stand wieder in OSM. Zum zweiten

Re: [Talk-de] craft=beekeeper und Direktverkauf

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21. Oktober 2013 14:30 schrieb Jörg Frings-Fürst o...@jff-webhosting.net : Und für hier in dem Fall der Imker, was ja IMHO dem Verkauf von Honig im­pli­zie­rt, sollte der Imker - Tag reichen. mit Implikationen sollte man vorsichtig sein, ich würde wenn es um eine explizite Verkaufsstelle

[Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden akstern
Salve ho questo problema.Ho realizzato una cartina utilizzando openlayer 2.0 , OSM e ho usato la mappe generate da cloudmadeper personalizzare la grafica.Il problema è che non vorrei che apparissero alcuni punti di interesse tipo parcheggi e altre amenity.Ho installato su una distribuzione Ubuntu

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Simone Cortesi
2013/10/21 akstern ca...@artmediastudio.com: HO trovato questo servizio https://tiles.mapbox.com/ che genera mappe proprio di questo tipo. Grazie in anticipo a chi mi può essere di aiuto. quanto è grande la tua area di riferimento? una città, una regione, tutta l'italia? hai gia' un tuo stile

[Talk-it] Richiesta per datalogger

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden sabas88
Ciao, un utente ha chiesto sulla pagina Google+ un consiglio per un datalogger... Buon giorno ho guardato un po' nel blog e in giro per la rete ma trovo solo info un po' datate. Cerco un datalogger gps da portare con me (piccole dimensioni) di buona qualità precisione/ricezione. Non so a cosa

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden akstern
Grazie per la risposta e per l' aiuto. L’ Area di riferimento è una città anche se in prospettiva pensare già ad regione non è male. Per quanto riguarda il foglio di stile non mi sono ancora documentato abbastanza come farlo, ma avevo intuito che poteva servire e avevo già scaricato la versione

Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta per datalogger

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Fabrizio Tambussa
Io ho un 747A+ e mi trovo benissimo. Lo trovi su ebay Ciao Il 21/ott/2013 13:25 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao, un utente ha chiesto sulla pagina Google+ un consiglio per un datalogger... Buon giorno ho guardato un po' nel blog e in giro per la rete ma trovo solo info un po'

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Cristian Consonni
Il 21 ottobre 2013 13:26, akstern ca...@artmediastudio.com ha scritto: Per quanto riguarda il foglio di stile non mi sono ancora documentato abbastanza come farlo, ma avevo intuito che poteva servire e avevo già scaricato la versione desktop. Credo che Simone si stesse riferendo in particolare

Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta per datalogger

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/21 Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com Io ho un 747A+ e mi trovo benissimo. Lo trovi su ebay anch'io connosco quel tipo e ricordo che era buono, però è molto vecchio, non c'è un modello attuale migliore, che ne so, con GPS e GLOSNAS insieme? ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden akstern
Se ho capito bene con CartoCSS posso creare uno stile che mi permette anche di non fare renderizzare i poi tipo amenity anche sul mio server oltre che su mapbox. Sbirciando sui file di configurazione di mapnik ho visto che viene applicato uno stile di default. In teoria quindi faccio questo style

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Simone Cortesi
2013/10/21 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Credo che Simone si stesse riferendo in particolare a CartoCSS, che credo sia proprio quello che ti serve. Vedi: * https://www.mapbox.com/tilemill/docs/manual/carto/ * https://www.mapbox.com/tilemill/docs/guides/advanced-map-design/ se

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden akstern
Grazie per i link. Per applicare uno stile alla mia installazione di mapnik avete qualche link con esempio pratico . Io ho installato mapnik seguendo il tutorial all' indirizzo http://seshagiriprabhu.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/building-an-openstreetmap-tile-server-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ in cui

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/21 akstern ca...@artmediastudio.com Se ho capito bene con CartoCSS posso creare uno stile che mi permette anche di non fare renderizzare i poi tipo amenity anche sul mio server oltre che su mapbox. Sbirciando sui file di configurazione di mapnik ho visto che viene applicato uno

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Simone Cortesi
2013/10/21 akstern ca...@artmediastudio.com: Grazie per i link. Per applicare uno stile alla mia installazione di mapnik avete qualche link con esempio pratico . Io ho installato mapnik seguendo il tutorial all' indirizzo

Re: [Talk-it] Vela percorso bike

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/20 Michele Malfatti michele.malfa...@gmail.com Questa è una vela. Porzione ti mappa che corrisponde al tratto di percorso che fa da questa vela alla progressiva. Mich74 per me sarebbe tourism=information, information=board board_type=map operator=... ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/21 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com https://github.com/openstreetmap/mapnik-stylesheets questo è lo stile che trovi su osm.org. sicuramente complesso da maneggiare visto il volume. pensavo fosse questo: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/ E' in carto quindi in

Re: [Talk-it] Vela percorso bike

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Volker Schmidt
2013/10/21 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com per me sarebbe tourism=information, information=board board_type=map operator=... +1 Volker ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden akstern
Guardando un po' in giro avevo visto che la combinazione che va per la maggiore eramapnik,osm2pgsql ,mod_tile Ho provato ad installare i moduli per la distribuzione debian ma non esiste mod_tile .Ho tentato di installare da sorgente ma fallisce a causa di errori di compilazione .Quindi sono

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden akstern
Grazie Simone seguirò il tuo consiglio . Ma secondo te è sufficiente agire sullo stile di di mapnik per eliminare la rendrizzazione dei poi in modo da sostituirli con i miei tramite openlayer ? -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Simone Cortesi
2013/10/21 akstern ca...@artmediastudio.com: Grazie Simone seguirò il tuo consiglio . Ma secondo te è sufficiente agire sullo stile di di mapnik per eliminare la rendrizzazione dei poi in modo da sostituirli con i miei tramite openlayer ? per questo devi agire cosi': eliminare dallo stile

Re: [Talk-it] Renderizzare mappa senza punti di interesse

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/21 akstern ca...@artmediastudio.com Ora però tu mi dici che devo applicare uno stile sia a Mapnik che a osm2pgsql . Alla fine dell' installazione del modulo ho lanciato il comando sudo -u www-data osm2pgsql -C 16000 --slim --number-processes 8 india-latest.osm.pbf e ci ha messo 4 ore

Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta per datalogger

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 21/10/2013 15:16, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: anch'io connosco quel tipo e ricordo che era buono, però è molto vecchio, non c'è un modello attuale migliore, che ne so, con GPS e GLOSNAS insieme? ciao, Martin Io ho un Garmin Etrex

[Talk-it] Way tra scalinate

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Fabrizio Tambussa
Ciao a tutti, sto mappando il centro di Matera, la famosa zona dei Sassi. Continuo a trovare delle porzioni di vie comprese tra 2 scalinate. Ovvero scendo la scalinata, percorro 100 metri di strada lastricata e abbastanza ampia, poi incontro un'altra scalinata. Come classifico questa porzione

Re: [Talk-it] Way tra scalinate

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 21/10/2013 18:30, Fabrizio Tambussa ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, sto mappando il centro di Matera, la famosa zona dei Sassi. Continuo a trovare delle porzioni di vie comprese tra 2 scalinate. Ovvero scendo la scalinata, percorro 100 metri di

Re: [Talk-it] Way tra scalinate

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrea Musuruane
Io metterei footway. Ciao, Andrea Il 21/ott/2013 18:31 Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, sto mappando il centro di Matera, la famosa zona dei Sassi. Continuo a trovare delle porzioni di vie comprese tra 2 scalinate. Ovvero scendo la scalinata, percorro 100

Re: [Talk-it] Vela percorso bike

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 21/ott/2013 16:10, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: per me sarebbe tourism=information, information=board board_type=map operator=... +1 ciao, Martin Ciao Luca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-it] Relazione fiume Brenta da correggere.

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Chiedo gentilmente, a chi ha pratica di relazioni su grande scala (regionale probabile), se per cortesia può controllare le relazioni del fiume Brenta in trentino e delle prealpi in generale sempre lì, in quanto, cliccandoci sopra mi dà due

Re: [Talk-it] Domande varie su come taggare (residence, sottopassi metropolitana, negozi, public_transport, targhe memoria, ecc.)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Any File
Innanzitutto grazie Martin, 2013/10/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2013/10/20 Any File anysomef...@gmail.com * Sottopassi metropolitana. C'è qualche tag specifico per indicare i percorsi E c'è un modo per indicare che non sono sempre aperti, ma che sono aperti solo

Re: [Talk-it] Way tra scalinate

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21/ott/2013 um 18:30 schrieb Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com: Come classifico questa porzione di 100 metri di via? Io penserei a pedestrian, visto che non posso ragionevolmente salire/scendere le scale con la moto o con la bici. Faccio bene? se si accede solo tramite scale

Re: [Talk-it] Domande varie su come taggare (residence, sottopassi metropolitana, negozi, public_transport, targhe memoria, ecc.)

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21/ott/2013 um 22:42 schrieb Any File anysomef...@gmail.com: oppure c'è shop=kitchen http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dkitchen che non ho ben capito cosa sia ... penso che pianifica e vende cucine (arredi, lavandini, fornelli ecc.) ciao, Martin

[Talk-lt] interaktyvūs quiz'ai pagal OSM duomenis?

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jurgis Pralgauskis
Sveiki, pažįstama geografijos mokytoja ieško, kaip būtų galima padaryti interaktyvius quiz'us pagal kontūrinius žemėlapius (LT upes, ežerus, aukštumas/žemumas, ar admin. venetus -- parodyk, kur yra X) Kaip pvz užrodė http://online.seterra.net/en/ex/79 Gal kas žinot, ar sunku būtų tokių

Re: [Talk-lt] interaktyvūs quiz'ai pagal OSM duomenis?

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Paulius Zaleckas
Man visai patiko. Pvz.: http://www.umapper.com/maps/view/id/32923/ Ten galima susigeneruot koki tik nori quiz'ą su įvairiais žemėlapiais. 2013/10/21 Jurgis Pralgauskis jurgis.pralgaus...@gmail.com Sveiki, pažįstama geografijos mokytoja ieško, kaip būtų galima padaryti interaktyvius quiz'us

Re: [Talk-lt] Dviračių infrastruktūros žymėjimas Lietuvoje

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Frank Frankas Wurft, BaltiCCycle.eu
Sveiki! as pridejau detales i wikibooks straipsni, aisku ypac dviraciu atzvilgiu. Laukiu nuomones http://lt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Atviro_%C5%BEem%C4%97lapio_vadovas/Redagavimas/Keliai Perziurejes diskusijas Vokieciu ir Anglu kalbomis as radau sekancias problemas: a) radau, kad

Re: [Talk-lt] Dviračių infrastruktūros žymėjimas Lietuvoje

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Tomas Straupis
Laba diena 2013 m. spalis 21 d. 23:09, Frank Frankas Wurft, BaltiCCycle.eu rašė: as pridejau detales i wikibooks straipsni, aisku ypac dviraciu atzvilgiu. Laukiu nuomones http://lt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Atviro_%C5%BEem%C4%97lapio_vadovas/Redagavimas/Keliai Šis puslapis skirtas VISIEMS keliams:

Re: [Talk-dk] Masse-import

2013-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Jonas Häggqvist
On 21-10-2013 12:05, Jens Winbladh wrote: Man kunne lave en GPX fil ud af kml filerne, derefter bruge den i JOSM, som baggrunds reference. Før vi kaster os ud i det skal vi måske lige se om vi overhovedet har tilladelse til at importere de her data. -- Jonas Häggqvist

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