Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Liz
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Does anyone know the exact latitude of the SA/Vic border? I've only seen rough estimates of 3.6km west of 141 degrees east. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Yep, read up on all that, but I'm trying to figure out the exact longitude it was set at by the privy council ruling. All the state borders that are set to exact lat/longs are all screwy and I'm trying to fix it to be as accuracte as humanly possible.

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: 2 miles and 19 chains is the measure in the High Court documents; then about 2 1/4 miles Considering the inch (and other imperial measurements) weren't standardised until the 1950s (1 inch = 2.54mm) that's a little imprecise to

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: photo from Mullinger swamp near naracorte Can you tell me where the swamp is on the map? It doesn't look like anyone has plotted it yet. but i didn't own a GPS then Pity it would have

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: Anyone up for a road trip to the middle of no where Vic/SA to get some GPS data on the survey line? :) Nick and I both cross this line a few times a year the OSM boundary is not correctly aligned with the signs on the Mallee Highway either needs some

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Nick and I both cross this line a few times a year the OSM boundary is not correctly aligned with the signs on the Mallee Highway either needs some variation on which routes we take it seems I've merged the 2 administrative

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: I've merged the 2 administrative boundaries into 1 and aligned them both to be 140.9640 degrees east, which is the best I can do based on the information you provided and I found on the net. I assume the border is supposed to be a straight line, but

[talk-au] Maritime boundaries

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
I noticed a bunch of maritime boundaries at 12nm, however most countries have made a land grab and extended their maritime borders to 200nm. I suppose this is more of a general question since it would effect almost all non-landlocked countries. Are the 12nm boundaries even relevant/valid any

Re: [talk-au] SA/Vic border

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.8528lon=140.9719zoom=13layers=B000FTF has the swamp in the middle of the map (judging from the aerial imagery) Roughly judging from the aerial image the border would be closer to 140.9698

Re: [talk-au] Maritime boundaries

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: The reason I chose to put in the (roughly estimated) 12nm boundary was that from the research I could find it's the *legal* definition of the extent of full australian territory, i.e. when you are inside 12nm you are in Australia

Re: [talk-au] Maritime boundaries

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: The reason I chose to put in the (roughly estimated) 12nm boundary was that from the research I could find it's the *legal* definition of the extent of full australian territory, i.e. when you are inside 12nm you are in Australia

Re: [talk-au] Maritime boundaries

2009-06-14 Thread Darrin Smith
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: The reason I chose to put in the (roughly estimated) 12nm boundary was that from the research I could find it's the *legal* definition of

Re: [talk-au] Maritime boundaries

2009-06-14 Thread Darrin Smith
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote: Interestingly that page I linked lists the Exclusive Economic Zone (the 200nm case) as extending from the outside of the 12nm limit, which

[talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
I'm just wondering, nothing came up on google when searching, if there is any example letters floating about petitioning MPs for access to federal data and making it public domain. The reason I ask is the electorate, both state and federal, I'm in is currently held by independents and they

Re: [talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-14 Thread Delta Foxtrot
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Paul Zagoridis pa...@zagz.com wrote: Pick up the phone and talk to your local member AND the electoral staff. I know from previous correspondence on issues they always tell me to put it in a letter and send it to the member, luckily they also accept emails these days.

Re: [talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-14 Thread Liz
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote: I'm just wondering, nothing came up on google when searching, if there is any example letters floating about petitioning MPs for access to federal data and making it public domain. The reason I ask is the electorate, both state and federal, I'm in is

Re: [talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-14 Thread b . schulz . 10
Lets just think about the end goals of getting MPs involved: adding more data to the map. Now basically there seems to be 2 threads of argument about how best to do this: 1) Through mass import of external datasets and 2) through contributions by users. Method 1) is often required for things

Re: [talk-au] Petition to MP

2009-06-14 Thread Ross Scanlon
And the problem with importing things like roads from government databases is that they are the gazetted road position not the actual on ground road position. That's why google maps etc are so often incorrect. Thats why some of the ABS data does not line up with the actual plotted road.