Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:02:55 +1000 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Liz wrote: The version is v2.10pre4 how do i get it to use OSM? after a lot of fiddling, and breaking the modem software further, i got the pre7svn installed i managed to download some osm maps but

Re: [talk-au] another use for a GPS

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/21/2632220.htm The globe may be warming at present, and has since the last major ice age, however what no one can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, and they never mention so the poor sheeple think it

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: You don't need to download the map tiles (and yes I agree it is not user friendly), if you install from svn as per here: I'll try and build a i386 deb file from this, apart from lack of deb file what else needs attending to to make

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: You don't need to download the map tiles (and yes I agree it is not user friendly), if you install from svn as per here: I'll try and build a i386 deb file from this, apart from lack of deb

Re: [talk-au] another use for a GPS

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: Pretty sure now would be a good time to exit stage left! *ducks and runs* I think the problem lies with the economists who think that the only state that is good is growth in GDP. If we didn't forever strive for increase in GDP we might be much better off

Re: [talk-au] another use for a GPS

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I think the problem lies with the economists who think that the only state that is good is growth in GDP. Well the population of the earth is growing, along side the complete mismanagement of all the resources on earth, including human,

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: i installed from deb following http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml and got 2.10svn2451 Even better, I assumed there weren't any based on what Ross said in a previous email.

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
H, gpsdrive isn't very friendly for small systems... 0 upgraded, 89 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 99.4MB of archives. After this operation, 269MB of additional disk space will be used. Not really wanting to dig into why there is so many dependencies, but

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: H, gpsdrive isn't very friendly for small systems... 0 upgraded, 89 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 99.4MB of archives. After this operation, 269MB of additional disk space will be used. Not really wanting to dig into

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: database I'm taking mine off it didn't get a fair trial but i'm already adjusted to tangogps and navit apt-get autoremove then removed 26.8MB which on the little machine is a luxury that cannot be afforded

Re: [talk-au] another use for a GPS

2009-07-21 Thread b . schulz . 10
Economists who insist on positive growth need to sit through a lecture on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY (~1 hr lecture in several parts. It is an excellent introduction to exponential growth in a constrained environment). - Original Message - From: Liz

Re: [talk-au] another use for a GPS

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: It is fairly well established within the scientific community that there is a fight between CO2 keeping IR within the Earth's atmosphere and aerosol (in a climate science context this means particles such as smoke,

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
When pgsql needs to be installed and all the rest of the mapnik stuff I'm starting to get concerned that there won't be enough space on my eeePC to load the data for gpsdrive. I don't want to buy a 32G sd card just to have mapping. ___

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I'm taking mine off it didn't get a fair trial but i'm already adjusted to tangogps and navit yea when I saw the need for pgsql I'm borking too, too complicated and I don't see enough benefit over navit to be honest, it was much

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I'm taking mine off it didn't get a fair trial but i'm already adjusted to tangogps and navit yea when I saw the need for pgsql I'm borking too, too complicated and I don't see enough benefit over navit to be honest, it was much

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: apt-get autoremove then removed 26.8MB which on the little machine is a luxury that cannot be afforded Try debfoster/deborphan... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: When pgsql needs to be installed and all the rest of the mapnik stuff I'm starting to get concerned that there won't be enough space on my eeePC to load the data for gpsdrive. I don't want to buy a 32G sd card just to have mapping. and after all that

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:   I'm planning to send the emails about the time the faculty returns from summer vacations and prepares for the new school year in August.   I will have the added incentive that a nearby university has gone viral and completely mapped out

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: The school is in the middle of no where and there is very little mapped so it'll be interesting to see how far they get. 'remote' is agreed ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: 'remote' is agreed Ya know it's a remote place when small towns have 3 run ways :) Mind you the town is surrounded by open cut gold mines apparently so that might have something to do with it too :)

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: That's one of the problems with the current deb packages.  Looks like I'm going to have to get a 701 and try it out to see what these 89 packages are. I installed Lenny Debian, so getting a 701 probably won't help in that respect,

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: I know the others like navit are easy to install etc but can you use a digital topo map with them? What happens when you run out of osm coverage? Sorry missed this bit, I don't think they do image overlays, I could be wrong, but

[talk-au] Russia to Tax Foreign GPS Hardware 25%

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
It looks like Russia is serious about it's GPS service and seems to be encouraging commerical adoption via a tax on imported GPSr that don't support GLONASS, devices that combine GLONASS + GPS are exempt. http://vector1media.com/vectorone/?p=3247

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: I know the others like navit are easy to install etc but can you use a digital topo map with them? What happens when you run out of osm coverage? to use a digital topo map with navit you would build it into the garmin format img file and then use that

[talk-au] Single road, 2 speed limits...

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
A section of the Bruce highway just north of Gympie has 2 different speed limits depending what direction you are traveling. While I guess this could be solved as 2 single lanes is there a more elegant solution? http://osm.org/go/ueTQy4AfL- When going south you hit an 80 sign 300-500m before