[talk-au] Coral Sea Islands

2009-08-04 Thread Ross Scanlon
Having seen that many are annoyed with this location showing up (I agree) and having read the wikipedia article on it. I've changed the place=country to place=state as it is a territory governed by Australia this more accurately describes the status. This should also mean it will not show up

Re: [talk-au] Trivia - Husband and Wife Team

2009-08-04 Thread Jack Burton
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 23:37 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: Apart from Victoria and Albert does anyone know of an example where A Husband and Wife have both had roads named after them and that these roads intersect. At the risk of seeming obvious, a more modern example: Elizabeth Way

Re: [talk-au] Coral Sea Islands

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Having seen that many are annoyed with this location showing up (I agree) and having read the wikipedia article on it. I've changed the place=country to place=state as it is a territory governed by Australia this more accurately

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
I've shrunk the shields to about half size, but now the text is becoming unreadable. Anyone able to make suggestions on shield/text size etc? http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=11lat=-33.86947lon=151.05768layers=B0 ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 4/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/Freeways/M5/01.jpg 404 01.JPG just navigate to the directory and you get a listing i picked the first one -- BOFH excuse #257: That would be because the software doesn't

[talk-au] Beating mapnik into submission

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
I came up with this with a little bit of nudging from Liz in the right direction: http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=11lat=-33.86931lon=151.04979layers=B0 Also I didn't know Goulburn had a metro road system... http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=12lat=-34.72133lon=149.7431layers=B0 I'm still trying

[talk-au] Pacific and New England Highway interchange area

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
Someone has marked in a lot of roads, I assume from sat imagery, however they marked them all as highway=service. Also someone only half did the New England highway, I'm fixing it up still, again probably from low res sat imagery, even though they list the source as survey it doesn't look it.

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I have been to different countries too, e.g. to Africa, and I don't think the road systems are all the same. I know that there is big differences. But this doesn't explain why routing shouldn't work as long as you

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have any objection to highway=rural? Depends how you define it. If it's verifiable and exists only to describe the way, there's no objection from me. ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: highway=rural seems a logical choice. Perhaps just work out a semi-rigid definition, such as: Any road which is: a) Primarily boarded by land used for primary production and b) Exists primarily to provide

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Depends how you define it. If it's verifiable and exists only to describe the way, there's no objection from me. It would essentially replace the meanings on this page for unclassified and unclassified would then be used as the

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: This road would be tagged residential or unclassified if it was in a metropolitan or urban centre When rendered should be the same as unclassified and residential. I wouldn't reference another highway class, but instead I'd more

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like that. 1) are you really suggesting using highway=rural for Other streets. Not generally through routes.? No, perhaps that was a bad example as I wasn't explicit. I would do this: No administrative

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: [ highway=rural means ] No administrative classification. Rural roads typically form the lowest form of the non-Urban interconnecting grid network. Anything non-connecting would be almost a service road? Sounds ok. But

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread b . schulz . 10
Never been further West than Parkes, I'm afraid. I guess this comes down to tagging what exists vs tagging intended use. For instance there are parts of the Pacific Highway which are 2 lanes but are tagged as trunk because they're the Pacific Highway and are therefore the most major road in

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:25 PM, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I guess this comes down to tagging what exists vs tagging intended use. For instance there are parts of the Pacific Highway which are 2 lanes but are tagged as trunk because they're the Pacific Highway and are therefore the most

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: The situation you're describing of a major thoroughfare which is just a gravel road should probably be tagged as unsealed primary while roads of similar construction which exist so that farmers can get home could come

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 4/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds ok. But you would need to define urban. from dictionary.com: urâ‹…ban [ur-buhn] Show IPA Use urban in a Sentence 1. of, pertaining to, or designating a city or town. 2. living in a city. 3. characteristic of

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:48 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Although the intended use is the first, urban=town/city, I very much doubt that there would be enough roads in anything smaller than a town to need a higher capacity version of a residential road. Ok with me. Someone

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Clear enough. In other words, unclassified = quartary and below. If this goes ahead I look forward to the wiki pages being cleaned up accordingly... :) I'd update it now but that's bound to upset someone somewhere. I guess

Re: [talk-au] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-04 Thread John Smith
While I don't feel it would be wise to alter the current wiki pages I made a proposal to try and sort it out indirectly. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway:rural ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Another Brisbane OpenStreetMap Friday meetup in two weeks

2009-08-04 Thread David Dean
Brisbane mappers (and other interested parties), I have arranged another OpenStreetMap meetup for Friday 21 August at Southbank after work. Come and meet OpenStreetMappers and maybe do a little micro-mapping of Southbank if you're up to it. The venue is currently TBA, but will probably be a