Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-06 Thread b . schulz . 10
Well, what information do you want it to get across? Do we want OSM Australia to become some form of semi-official name for OSM activities/groups in Australia? Or do we just want a sign which says There's an OpenStreetMap mapping party meeting here, this is what you look for to find us in which

Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: Well, what information do you want it to get across? Don't want look like a dork waiting for everyone to turn up :) Do we want OSM Australia to become some form of semi-official name for OSM activities/groups in

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread Evan Sebire
I'm just still not sure if we should categorise paths so they display correctly with the current limitations of a rendering algorithm. When reading the main wiki (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Cycleway ) I understand the definition of cycleway to mean bicycle only paths or

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org wrote: I'm just still not sure if we should categorise paths so they display correctly with the current limitations of a rendering algorithm. What limitation? :) We're currently in the process of defining how things render how we choose, we

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I can't find the email with the Wiki link For the record... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aussie_Mapnik_Style_Changes Also I've been trying to stick the category tags on the Aussie specific pages.

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread Evan Sebire
On Thursday 06 Aug 2009 09:21:59 John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org wrote: I'm just still not sure if we should categorise paths so they display correctly with the current limitations of a rendering algorithm. What limitation? :) We're currently in the

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org wrote: A complicated solution would be to have user options similar to non-web applications.  Tick-box to emphasise paths that have bicycle = yes tag. The current cycle map is good but tick-boxes for other properties such as fuel, bbq,

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread Evan Sebire
On Thursday 06 Aug 2009 10:13:47 John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org wrote: A complicated solution would be to have user options similar to non-web applications. Tick-box to emphasise paths that have bicycle = yes tag. The current cycle map is good but

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:30:02 +0200 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org wrote: Maybe slightly off-topic but does the current rendering engine obey the width parameter? I wanted to fix up a river that is in some parts 10m wide and others 100m. Would setting the width be the correct way to make it

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-06 Thread Liz
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: highway=ford doesn't render I've come across this before, I just made the ford the node that crosses, not the way. I've got one which renders on JOSM, as a node it's like a little car in the water ___

Re: [talk-au] Railtrails

2009-08-06 Thread Liz
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Evan Sebire wrote: A complicated solution would be to have user options similar to non-web applications. Tick-box to emphasise paths that have bicycle = yes tag. The current cycle map is good but tick-boxes for other properties such as fuel, bbq, motel etc. The rendering

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-06 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: I've got one which renders on JOSM, as a node it's like a little car in the water Would that mean the same thing to you if you've never used JOSM? well it is of course wrong to assume there would be water. I was just thinking that the graphic could be

Re: [talk-au] Australian Rendering

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: well it is of course wrong to assume there would be water. I was just thinking that the graphic could be reusable I know, but I was thinking more of people that just use maps, but don't edit, would they know what that icon means?

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-06 Thread Matt White
John Smith wrote: While it's not my proposal I updated it to match the current aussie guidelines. Please vote for it if you are in favour of this tag so we can get 4WD Only tacked on the end of road ways. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/4WD_Only Australian Tagging

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-06 Thread Liz
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Matt White wrote: Anyway, thanks for kicking it off again, and I was going to say that I give it 6 hours before some dickhead goes but what about my Lamborghini - that's 4WD, but I noticed it's already happened on the main list... mapping by committee at it's finest. the

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-06 Thread Matt White
Liz wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Matt White wrote: Anyway, thanks for kicking it off again, and I was going to say that I give it 6 hours before some dickhead goes but what about my Lamborghini - that's 4WD, but I noticed it's already happened on the main list... mapping by committee at

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-06 Thread b . schulz . 10
Meh, who cares. What we're essentially doing here is forking OSM, just while still using their database. Why do all the Australian mapping guidelines need to be global? So long as what we tag ends up being consistent enough that their rendering works 99% of the time it's not really going to

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.com.au wrote: Anyway, thanks for kicking it off again, and I was going to say that I give it 6 hours before some dickhead goes but what about my Lamborghini - that's 4WD, but I noticed it's already happened on the main list... mapping by

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: Meh, who cares. What we're essentially doing here is forking OSM, just while still using their database. Why do all the Australian mapping guidelines need to be global? So long as what we tag ends up being consistent

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 26, Issue 11

2009-08-06 Thread darylr
I was looking at getting a wall map of Australia for work and look what I found. Really interesting device. Hi Liz, Have a look at this one, it has many more features. http://www.gpsaustralia.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8914 Darylr Keep up the great work, everybody!

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

2009-08-06 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Any point in asking to have this list default changed to reply to list or would that be inviting a pointlessly endless argument with no outcome? You'll get me posting this, as I do on every list that this discussion comes up on:

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: I understand but will never accept the opposing position as I use a mail client that does handle reply-to-list correctly and have no sympathy for people who choose to use poor quality software when better alternatives exist. As I

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Nothing special, just followed the directions on this wiki page: http://www.rigacci.org/wiki/doku.php/doc/appunti/hardware/eeepc_navit As a result, most of the towns and suburbs in Australia can't be searched for due to a lack of is_in tags. My patch

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: As a result, most of the towns and suburbs in Australia can't be searched for due to a lack of is_in tags. My patch for osm2navit (attached) is a bit heavy-handed but trivial. If you've got a build environment set up for navit, give

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

2009-08-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:47 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: I understand but will never accept the opposing position as I use a mail client that does handle reply-to-list correctly and have no sympathy for people who

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
I just ran the new osm2navit over a data file a couple of days old and it went from 40M to 50M as a result of the extra is_in data. http://maps.bigtincan.com/data/Australia-20090804.navit.bin ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

2009-08-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: They don't understand that they need to hit reply to all, that's what started this thread in the first place, they thought hitting reply would reply to the list, not to the person that sent it. IMHO that's a problem

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO that's a problem with them, not with the mailing list. But you Shouldn't we be a little more accommodating then treating people that don't know better as some kind of lower class? although I do like the ability to hit Reply

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I wonder, how hard would it be to write a script which looked at the ABS boundaries and placed an is_in= tag on every way/node/whatever which is completely within the multipolygon relation? You don't need the is_in

Re: [talk-au] mailing lists and replying to them.

2009-08-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:26 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Fri, 7/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO that's a problem with them, not with the mailing list. But you Shouldn't we be a little more accommodating then treating people that don't know better

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: That one seems to work much better. It's a bit of a hack but it would be much better if navit pulled the is_in information from admin boundaries, there is a boundary for most countries and things within Australia.

Re: [talk-au] Rendering Fuel tags

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Tags for that purpose are already described on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel I just noticed this url on that page: http://www.osmfuel.org map/site for searching fuel locations