Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread 80n
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:49 AM, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On 24/04/11 19:54, John Smith wrote: Once upon a time it used to be almost a race to map out new areas from Nearmap coverage, now whole areas of coverage go untouched for months or longer... Even from bing there is not

Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-26 Thread Markus_g
Hi Franc, I had a look and Navit doesn't have natural=bay as a supported tag even though it is a supported tag in OSM. It might be worth contacting the developers of Navit and ask them to include the tag natural=bay from a relation to render as water. Regards, Markus -Original

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 April 2011 09:41, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: fosm.org looks pretty good with potlatch2. Just need a tile server or to setup my own again - how does one get a big fat planet.osm?

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:11:29 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: FOSM.org is hosted on a virtual machine of hypercube provided for XAPI. Without any explanation I was banned from the FOSM when I stated this. Regards Grant OSM Sysadmin team. Banned from the

Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-26 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I remember there was a discussion a while ago tagging of bays - which I didn;t pay much attention too ;-( They now seem to be in a relation for each Bay, which is nice for defining the area of the bay. However

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 11:33 +0100, 80n wrote: There's no tileserver yet, that's a priority, there's no gratification if things are rendered. Is it possible to setup some sort of tiles@home-like system for fosm? That could be a way to reduce your load. David

[talk-au] China now has a hotline to dob in non-licensed mappers...

2011-04-26 Thread John Smith
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/26/china_street_view_licences/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-26 Thread Franc Carter
[snip] I've been aiming to tag bays as areas rather than just a node in the centre. As a consequence my initial thought was to tag the area as natural=bay. Traditionally most renderers didn't render this as water. the OSM Mapnik style now does, but many others still don't. The problem was I

[talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread David Murn
I was wondering this question tonight. How many OSM users have accepted the new terms, without fully understanding that sources they have used in the past prohibit them from doing so. So, I wrote a little script to find out and the numbers are surprising. Using my australian test extract from

[talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Talk-au, I am a volunteer member (like all the members) of the Licensing Working Group (LWG), OSM Sysadmin Team along with a few other OpenStreetMap groups. The LWG is well aware of the NearMap licensing issue and we are trying to get it resolved as soon as we can but we are an all volunteer

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: I was wondering this question tonight. [ ... ] This only shows where there is clear evidence of licence violations without having to look past the data's tags. [ ... ] Food for thought Junk food at best. ;-) OSM

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:17 +0100, Grant Slater wrote: I am a volunteer member (like all the members) of the Licensing Working Group (LWG), OSM Sysadmin Team along with a few other OpenStreetMap groups. Does this mean we can ask (and receive definitive answers from) you the hard questions

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL? On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM,

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. On 27 April 2011 00:56, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:17 +0100, Grant Slater wrote: Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs Them conflict in the community

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:33 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs Them conflict in the community with exaggerated claims and mistruths. We

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:24:09 +1000 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Using my australian test extract from 21/03/2011, I found that 3390 users have made edits in the area of interest (the Australian extract available on osmaustralia.org). Of these 3390 users, 536 have used the tag

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 April 2011 22:06, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Bluntly, CC-by-SA for geodata is fine here. It's good enough for our government, it's good enough for us. (Au government now is using CC-by for data). We believe in Share-Alike. Actually, we have been brought up to believe in

[talk-au] Comment from another user looking at sign-up screen

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
It asks you to agree. It doesn't ask you to accept or decline as you wish - and doesn't say what will happen if you decline. Contributor terms Please read the agreement below and press the agree button to confirm that you accept the terms of this agreement for your existing and future

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread John Smith
On 27 April 2011 04:15, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: But I thought that Nearmap has said that they did not think the CT's were compatible with the use of their data. As I understood it this had nothing to do with CC-BY-SA or ODbL. So the issue as I understand it is the CT's,

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread John Smith
On 27 April 2011 07:06, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Bluntly, CC-by-SA for geodata is fine here. It's good enough for our government, it's good enough for us. (Au government now is using CC-by for data). We believe in Share-Alike. Actually, we have been brought up to believe in

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Tim Challis
On 27/04/11 07:06, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:33 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs Them conflict in the community with