Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

Hi all I am writing as someone who does voluntary work for a Parks Service. I have personal experience with the loop: people use a path because its mapped, the path is mapped because it exists because people use it It takes an enormous amount of work to repeatedly deconstruct a track,

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 12:25, Greg Lauer wrote: > It does seem that leisure=nature_reserve is common. > You could also find (shock, horror!) that that tag has been used for rendering purposes. & Steve, to not help matters at all :-) You also park your car in a car park! Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Landgate data

Yeah generally Landgate data, when published as "open data" is personal use only. I'll raise a DWG ticket and try to seek clarification on what data was used, and roll back where needed. Andrew, on behalf of the DWG On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 10:08, nwastra nwastra wrote: > Hi > I noticed this

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

Greg's description matches mine. Used for recreation, not conservation, usually just grass, maybe a few trees scattered, sometimes there could be a playground there, maybe benches, maybe bbqs, ie. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=park. National Parks, Marine Parks etc would be

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 11:28, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Thanks Phil, I appreciate your insights on this. > > On the side issue, yes I definitely agree "informal path" track-tracing > can have an effect on human use in the local, often wilderness, > environments where they are recorded. However I

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 19:39, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Personally, as an ex Parks Track Management Officer, I have actively > removed unformed, off track tracks from OSM. There are frequently > management plans for such areas where active promotion of the “tracks” is > discouraged and book authors

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

Thank you for a representative data sample, Greg! I find a couple / few things things interesting that shake out so far: > I will leave the nuances of tagging National parks and protected areas to > those much more experienced than me Most interesting, maybe even revealing: we shouldn’t

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

Hi Steve I will leave the nuances of tagging National parks and protected areas to those much more experienced than me (most of my tagging is roads and trails) but happy to illustrate some examples. It does seem that leisure=nature_reserve is common. 1. Great Sandy National Park -

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian, English?

On 23/10/2020 9:26 am, talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Subject: Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English? I would agree with Greg on this.  I think a Park is a Natural or Recreational area within a city or Town.  They can also be National Parks, but I

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

Not muddy at all, your clarifications are excellent. Much obliged, mate! SteveA On Oct 22, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Greg Lauer wrote: > Good question > > To be clear I am a Kiwi (New Zealand) who lives in Australia (and has spent > many years in the US) so my interpretation may be slightly

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

Good question To be clear I am a Kiwi (New Zealand) who lives in Australia (and has spent many years in the US) so my interpretation may be slightly muddled In general I consider a 'Park' to be a local area, generally managed by the city or shire (county). Playgrounds, gardens, dog walking

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

Thanks Phil, I appreciate your insights on this. On the side issue, yes I definitely agree "informal path" track-tracing can have an effect on human use in the local, often wilderness, environments where they are recorded. However I have a preference to better tag these tracks eg abandoned=path

Re: [talk-au] Landgate data

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 09:08, nwastra nwastra wrote: > Hi > I noticed this edit this morning that is using data obtained from > Landgate. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Xebozone/history#map=18/-31.77734/115.95824 > Do we have explicit permission to use their data? > Certainly not

[talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

Hi, it's stevea from California. Some of us in the USA are crafting a proposal (https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Park_boundary), may be two or three staged proposals, intended to better express the wide inclusive semantic "we" (OSM-wide, but including US English-speakers) mean for

[talk-au] Landgate data

Hi I noticed this edit this morning that is using data obtained from Landgate. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Xebozone/history#map=18/-31.77734/115.95824 Do we have explicit permission to use their data? The

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

Personally, as an ex Parks Track Management Officer, I have actively removed unformed, off track tracks from OSM. There are frequently management plans for such areas where active promotion of the “tracks” is discouraged and book authors are also encouraged to not mark the track in their guide