Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread John Smith
On 27 November 2010 19:08, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: You can of course fork whatever you like, but allow me to point out that (1) if you are unhappy with the slippy map plugin, why not fork that

[talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread John Smith
Does this mean talks with Nearmap has failed to come to an amicable arrangement? before: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins/slippymap/src/org/openstreetmap/josm/plugins/slippymap/SlippyMapPreferences.java?p=24300 after:

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 November 2010 20:18, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I can tell, we are still talking with Nearmap to find a compromise acceptable to both party. The last email I exchanged with Ben Last was last night. I don't think we are near a breakdown in communication at

Re: [talk-au] MS imagery

2010-11-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 November 2010 12:57, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: landuse, and at a stretch, bike paths etc. I guess John Smith will be mapping out the boundaries of the coverage? Should be interesting. There is no news here until they actually allow it, so far they are claiming they can't

Re: [talk-au] MS imagery

2010-11-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 November 2010 13:20, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 25 November 2010 03:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 November 2010 12:57, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: landuse, and at a stretch, bike paths etc. I guess John Smith will be mapping

Re: [talk-au] How to tag model railway

2010-11-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 November 2010 07:36, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote: In a park there is a set of rails and small trains that pull 2 or 3 carriages that people can sit on. Here are some photos: http://amynaomi.blogspot.com/2010/03/trains.html I have tagged it as railway=narrow_gauge but I

Re: [talk-au] How to tag model railway

2010-11-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 November 2010 13:54, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I couldn't find that. It needs to be added to the railway section of map features, but for what ever reason it was overlooked previously... ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-11 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Date: 12 November 2010 02:41 Subject: [OSM-talk] license change map To: t...@openstreetmap.org As the license thermometer[1] turns greener I was interested in how far this already effects the map

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-11 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Date: 12 November 2010 11:37 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] license change map To: Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org From looking at a few different cities in this map, it is

Re: [talk-au] Locata augmenting GPS in GPS hostile areas

2010-11-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 November 2010 22:57, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Or put them in road tunnels like Sydney's M5, so that visitors like me using OSM get told about the correct exit inside the tunnel instead of being told we've missed the turn when we eventually exit. This sort of thing is being

Re: [talk-au] Locata augmenting GPS in GPS hostile areas

2010-11-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 November 2010 15:40, ed...@billiau.net wrote: As far as my reading got, this could work with a smart phone, as the additional signals were broadcast on 2.4GHz, but not on a consumer GPS. Is this the something like wifi triangulation, which a number of companies (eg skyhook, google, apple,

[talk-au] Reversing the Mercator Effect....

2010-11-05 Thread John Smith
Stephen Von Worley has some fun reversing the distortions of the Mercator projection, which exaggerates the size of things at the poles in order to achieve consistent compass bearings. He imagines what would happen if Greenland was on the equator and Africa in the Arctic, and goes on to do the

Re: [talk-au] Project of the Week / Month

2010-11-04 Thread John Smith
On 5 November 2010 00:26, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: A parking area may have lit/unlit parts, and most of these areas are too large to simply tag the whole area as lit/unlit. Ive had a look through You could have 2 parking areas and mark one as lit and one that isn't... One

Re: [talk-au] Project of the Week / Month

2010-11-04 Thread John Smith
On 5 November 2010 10:54, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: The two parking areas issue is the same issue as needing to split a highway in order to tag different segments with different maxspeeds. For example if we have (best read with a monospaced font), Most either can't do

Re: [talk-au] Project of the Week / Month

2010-11-04 Thread John Smith
On 5 November 2010 11:33, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Like putting a way down the middle of each lane and then tieing that back to the road, or like just adding a lane:n:feature = value to the existing road way? Then you could do something like lane:0:restriction =

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-10-23 Thread John Smith
Has any progress been made on this front at all? I noticed in the latest minutes[1] that the LWG has no plans to address the section(s) that Nearmap objected to, and previous minutes[2] didn't show any resolution either. [1] https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_87d3bmhxgc [2]

Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation

2010-10-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 October 2010 16:57, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: An OSM file like the osmChange ... ones (eg. http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/0123/download), or the osm ... one that JOSM can save new edits as when you go FileSave As? As JOSM spits out, that way the

Re: [talk-au] A proposal to change Botany Bay into a relation

2010-10-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 October 2010 17:25, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: How do you tell the changes from the things that haven't changed when viewing this in JOSM though? You load a new layer from the DB and can compare the 2... ___ Talk-au mailing

[talk-au] World's biggest book...

2010-10-06 Thread John Smith
The world's biggest book fair in Frankfurt is used to seeing some big book launches, but none came larger than a six-by-nine-foot (1.82 by 2.74 metres) atlas unveiled on Wednesday. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/06/3031388.htm ___ Talk-au

[talk-au] When satnavs go bad....

2010-09-29 Thread John Smith
You need to dial a helicopter to get you off the mountain http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1315762/White-van-man-airlifted-safety-satnav-sends-mountain.html ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] When satnavs go bad....

2010-09-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 September 2010 11:58, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: A pretty similar thing happened to a friend of mine. Hired a car overseas, set off for a drive in the country, and ended up on a walking track that kept on getting narrower and narrower... Minus the helicopter rescue though.

[talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
It doesn't seem likely things are going to be resolved to everyone's liking, in fact there seems to be a new type of service popping up every other week. So to this end I just filed a bug with JOSM asking to get multiple credentials stored and some easy way to switch between them. This is so you

Re: [talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 September 2010 14:16, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote: To me this means multiple username and password combinations, all with the same OSM site. I think you should spell out that we need JOSM to be able to be used on different mapping sites. It would also be useful for

Re: [talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 September 2010 14:30, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote: http://fosm.org give instructions on how to change JOSM so that it uses FOSM. Yes, but you loose any authentication information for OSM and vice versa if you switch between them, that is unless you run JOSM under

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 18:35, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Point 4 of the Contributor Terms provides a guaranteed mechanism for Attribution. http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 00:37, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I believe John Smith initially suggested it to NearMap. Ben Last at NearMap No, I posted the question publicly to the legal talk list, my concern wasn't just about Nearmap but any source that may be too easy to access

Re: [talk-au] Nestoria and OSM

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 00:37, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Nestoria have launched an OSM option in Australia. http://blog.nestoria.com.au/big-thank-you Wonder if they'll ditch OSM when the data is reverted due to the poor quality previously available...

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 04:02, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: That said, there is no answer right now for what will happen regarding NearMap imagery in the future. Currently, OSM users may not use NearMap imagery for deriving data for OSM. Only users that have agreed with the new

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 04:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: bad. This isn't a competition with a winner and loser. The fact is that NearMap don't want OSM users using their imagery right now. So we shouldn't. This isn't true, they don't want to allow their data to be submitted under

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 07:31, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I don't think that your recommendation is in the best interest of OpenStreetMap or OSM contributors. You left off 3, there is going to be a fork as cc-by-sa and any such contributions from Nearmap will be happily accepted. Also

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 07:31, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I don't think that your recommendation is in the best interest of OpenStreetMap or OSM contributors. Actually how can you or anyone else make this statement in good faith when most of the contributors have never been asked what

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 07:58, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Or did you mean CommonMap? http://commonmap.info Unlikely, since CommonMap is cc-by, not cc-by-sa... Or did you mean SharedMap? http://www.sharedmap.org At this stage this is run and used by a single person, perhaps this

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 08:11, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: This old saw again, JohnSmith? Every time the community is asked, they support progress in the form of ODbL rather than the inappropriate CC-By-SA. Here is the latest feedback for you. Yes and how many said they haven't even

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 08:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It will take forever if you never start the discussion. ;-) I was under the impression the LWG was already talking to Nearmap, however I don't have a problem with the current license, so I don't see a point in wasting it to

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

2010-08-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 August 2010 17:30, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Ross Scanlon wrote: Sarcasm switch firmly on. :D Can anyone explain why aussie humour isn't understood in most other parts of the world? ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

2010-08-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 August 2010 19:11, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: In the case of Campbell Primary School it only renders one name at even the highest zoom level. I'm seeing two names at the highest zoom level. URL?

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

2010-08-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 August 2010 19:16, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:14 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: URL? http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/239684/158567.png I was after the perm link (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.290188lon

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

2010-08-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 August 2010 19:28, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: This is exactly what I did, but Ross said this is not correct (barring the one or two source tags I incorrectly copied across that I offered to fix). There may be a miscommunication, but you definitely don't need/nor should

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

2010-08-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 August 2010 19:41, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Additionally just don't delete 300 or so nodes without seeing if it's by general agreement rather than just announcing that you've done it. Not that you'd do anything like that, John :) Actually that's probably one of the few

Re: [talk-au] FYI I removed a whole bunch on nodes where ways existed for the same object.

2010-08-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 August 2010 20:00, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok sorry, in future I'll make announcements here. I just didn't want to spam the list and I knew it could be reverted anyway. The longer you leave things to do a revert, the more problematic it will be, best to discuss

[talk-au] Fwd: [Tagging] Intermittent water

2010-08-26 Thread John Smith
This might be more suitable for Lake Eyre etc... http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/41007651 -- Forwarded message -- From: Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca Date: 27 August 2010 06:29 Subject: [Tagging] Intermittent water To: tagg...@openstreetmap.org Cc:

[talk-au] Good data deal for mapping parties + mobile mappers...

2010-08-26 Thread John Smith
Just thought I'd give people a heads up if they're looking for a good deal on mobile broadband, currently Vodafone are offering 1.5G/mo for $15 on a month to month post pay account and Crazy Johns are offering 2G/mo for $15 on a 6mth post pay account. If you get a rootable android handset you can

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] interesting decision - UK row over publishing public mapping data

2010-08-25 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ross Johnson ros...@hotmail.com Date: 25 August 2010 12:41 Subject: [Aust-NZ] interesting decision - UK row over publishing public mapping data To: Public sector bodies in the UK will not be able to publish data on Google Maps, despite a new deal

Re: [talk-au] Why maxspeed:source not source:maxspeed?

2010-08-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 August 2010 14:40, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: John are you going to do this? I'm stuck on 3G atm, I may not be able to get to it for a week or more depending on what happens until I get access to a DSL connection again. ___ Talk-au

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] CrisisCamp Pakistan Floods, Sydney (4-5 Sept)

2010-08-23 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Shoaib Burq sab...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:37:42 +1000 Subject: [Aust-NZ] CrisisCamp Pakistan Floods, Sydney (4-5 Sept) To: Aust-NZ OSGeo aust...@lists.osgeo.org Hi all, Thought some of you maybe interested in coming along and helping out

Re: [talk-au] What's going on here? (mysterious street)

2010-08-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 August 2010 11:28, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: copyright-trap; if it showed up in an external database it'd be evidence of copying. It could also have been a gazetted road that was never built... ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] RE: ABS news

2010-08-19 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ross Johnson ros...@hotmail.com Date: 20 August 2010 13:14 Subject: [Aust-NZ] RE: ABS news To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org ABS to equip staff with wikis, blogs and community spaces

Re: [talk-au] linux.conf.au 2011

2010-08-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 August 2010 05:50, mattwh...@iinet.net.au mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: Is anybody in Brisvegas interested in running an OSM stand at linuxconf? I've put in an application for a miniconf... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] OSM maps used on kids tv show...

2010-08-15 Thread John Smith
Newish TV show, K-9, which seems to be a kids spin off from the K-9 dog that used to be on Doctor Who a couple of decades ago, in any case a map flashed up and I instantly recognised it as OSM map tiles... You can see the map on this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AggIfEp_7mw

Re: [talk-au] OSM maps used on kids tv show...

2010-08-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 August 2010 11:14, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Nice to see OSM data in use on TV. firefishy says that the central London tiles shown predate 23 May 2010. The wikipedia page says it was filmed 2008-2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-9_(TV_series)

Re: [talk-au] Bridges in the ACT

2010-08-14 Thread John Smith
On 14 August 2010 14:46, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: What would be the best way to get a publically accessable web map of the ACT showing the OSM data but with the bridges highlighted? Also bridges that have not had their bridge_number tagged could be highlighted in red and

Re: [talk-au] Bridges in the ACT

2010-08-14 Thread John Smith
On 14 August 2010 17:50, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Are you asking about a custom mapnik style sheet? Yes Do you plan to host it locally on your own computer, or just want someone else to do it all? Why are you using bridge_number=* instead of ref=* or bridge:ref=* ? My

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-14 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 22:22, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Sorry, my abuse reply was to the hypothetical question. But the un-winding of edits still stands. What about abusive edits that tweak the location of nodes by 0.1mm by someone pro-CT/ODBL just so they can claim the node

Re: [talk-au] Bridges in the ACT

2010-08-14 Thread John Smith
On 14 August 2010 14:46, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: What would be the best way to get a publically accessable web map of the ACT showing the OSM data but with the bridges highlighted? I assumed you meant the bridge casing...

Re: [talk-au] Bridges in the ACT

2010-08-14 Thread John Smith
On 14 August 2010 18:19, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds right to me. But if you propose bridge:ref=* then you should probably also use bridge:name=* rather than the already proposed bridge_name=*. I still think it should be just name=*, after all what's the point of the

Re: [talk-au] Edits vs edits

2010-08-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 August 2010 08:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Are you suggesting that such a bulk edit has happened? I'm not aware of edits that match that description perhaps you can link to the changesets for reference? I'm not suggesting any such thing has happened, but if people are

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-13 Thread John Smith
Why are you cross posting this to the talk-au list, that seems to indicate he's right... On 13 August 2010 16:20, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I love the implication here that you're 'poisonous' if you don't

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of Australian data

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
On 12 August 2010 21:28, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Have I got this right or am I worrying too much? It's unclear what will happen at this point, since no one has the chance to actually disagree any more, although there was a thread about what to do about people that aren't

Re: [talk-au] License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins

2010-08-12 Thread John Smith
Nearmap as far as I know haven't agreed to the new Contributor Terms (CTs) or the ODBL, so anyone that has traced anything from Nearmap isn't able to agree to the new license, doing so would put you in breach of contract with Nearmap which would also breach clause 1 on the new Contributor Terms.

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-08-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 19:47, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Since I've heard nothing more about this I can only assume that any consideration for a compromise has been rejected by the pro-PD crowd. Why do you even assume this? Grant pasted this from LWG minutes on IRC earlier

Re: [talk-au] Dislike the new wiki skin?

2010-08-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 07:54, 16 towal...@gmail.com wrote: Just being evil-minded and petty; I wonder if this hint should be added (discretely) to, say, the Australian Tagging Guidelines. Might as well keep up the image of them ignorant Southern Hemisphere hicks wot doesn't like to toe the line? I

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-08-09 Thread John Smith
Since I've heard nothing more about this I can only assume that any consideration for a compromise has been rejected by the pro-PD crowd. On 30 July 2010 15:54, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 July 2010 15:40, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to just

Re: [talk-au] Dislike the new wiki skin?

2010-08-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 09:34, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Also, there are many mappers around, just because one or two people didnt map an area, doesnt mean it wouldnt be mapped. If a mapper sees an area filled in, they wont work so closely on that area, but if those 2 or 3 users you

[talk-au] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-08 Thread John Smith
For anyone still fence sitting over the new contributor terms and the ODBL this is what you have to look forward to in the near future: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-August/003908.html Basically those in favour of PD but not directly effected by or benefiting from data

[talk-au] Dislike the new wiki skin?

2010-08-08 Thread John Smith
For those of you that dislike the new wiki look, you can revert it by going to: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Preferences Click on 'Appearance', and then select 'MonoBook' and save... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] Aerial imagery used to find unlicensed pools in US

2010-08-03 Thread John Smith
Officials in Riverhead, New York are using Google Earth to root out the owners of unlicensed pools. So far they've found 250 illegal pools and collected $75,000 in fines and fees. Of course not everyone thinks that a city should be spending time looking at aerial pictures of backyards. from the

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] Superficial review of copyright issues related to collection and publication of education material on OSGeo Website (LINK)

2010-08-02 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Simon Cropper scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au Date: 3 August 2010 12:47 Subject: [Aust-NZ] Superficial review of copyright issues related to collection and publication of education material on OSGeo Website (LINK) To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org Hi

[talk-au] Bing maps now has OSM layer...

2010-08-02 Thread John Smith
Just noticed a diary entry[1] pointing out that MS now uses a OSM layer on their Bing Map site[2] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Paul%20Johnson/diary/11407 [2] http://www.bing.com/community/blogs/maps/archive/2010/08/02/bing-maps-adds-open-street-maps-layer.aspx I'd love to know about

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-31 Thread John Smith
On 31 July 2010 10:36, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: Then it doesn't help at all - what if ODbL 1.1 says that you can freely relicense to CC-Zero? And if you think that can't happen, go look at the GNU Free Documentation Licence 1.3 and Wikipedia. That kind of legal hijinks

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 16:16, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If You have indicated to OSMF that you waive any rights in Your Contents (dedication to the 'public domain'), OSMF will additionally use or sub

[talk-au] Bundaberg Nearmap imagery now online

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Queensland ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 19:40, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On a different topic of sourcing, as I mentionned some time ago, Spot Images will be releasing images of France in the near future for a period of 6 months. The attribution is very important to them and that's why someone is

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 20:24, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, hence the reason I mentioned it was about a different topic of sourcing, and I couldn't find the previous thread. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2010-July/006868.html

Re: [talk-au] Bundaberg Nearmap imagery now online

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
Mackay imagery seems to be online now as well: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Queensland ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Toowoomba Nearmap imagery now online

2010-07-30 Thread John Smith
Toowoomba imagery is now online as well... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 17:58, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: If a new user, who has agreed to the contributor terms, makes a contribution that this derived from work that is *only* licensed under CC-BY-SA do they have the right to allow that contribution to be licensed under ODbL. I don't think they

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 22:47, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: That was another question I meant to ask. Does one map in accordance with the legal jurisdiction that the OSM servers are within, the jurisdiction where the mapper is, or the jurisdiction of the area being mapped? You personally

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 23:34, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: 1) YOU have to ask Nearmap if they are OK with YOU using their imagery under the terms of the CT Which they aren't so... 2) you cant use Nearmap imagery for tracing, and you should ask for all your edits where you have used

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 15:40, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to just create a new account, and not agree to the CTs, only to discover you cannot create an account without accepting. That means that no new members can contribute by deriving information from Nearmap

[talk-au] Electoral boundaries...

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
New dataset of the electoral boundaries just became available: http://data.australia.gov.au/638 I'm not sure it's worth doing anything with these as they tend to shift too frequently, although they could be imported without trying to merge them into existing boundaries so they can be reimported

Re: [talk-au] Electoral boundaries...

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 18:01, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: Each state is done once every seven years, that doesn't seem overly frequent to me. After posting that I noticed that it was crown copyright, so we can't do anything with it anyway...

[talk-au] SES Station

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
Does anyone have a suitable picture of a SES station so it can be used on the wiki? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] SES Station

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 23:05, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: There's one just up the road from me, but my experience is that these are brick buildings without much distinction. Most of the ones I've seen are tin sheds, in any case it's just to illustrate and for some reason the image of

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 01:43, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Change the tag to source=nearmap: that's misattributing any parts of the way that you didn't update 2) Change the tag to source=yahoo;nearmap: tedious, but relatively accurate 3) Add source tags to the individual nodes that you

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-27 Thread John Smith
On 27 July 2010 21:07, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: If an existing way was marked as source:yahoo, but I made some minor alterations from nearmap imagery what should I do to the source? Should I leave it as source:yahoo and add source:nearmap to the changeset? Or should I

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-27 Thread John Smith
On 27 July 2010 22:54, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: I'd be cautious about changing anything that is source=survey (gps or otherwise) though to source=nearmap. I have done this in a couple of places but it's thing's like a road being made dual carriage way when it was originally a

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 08:28, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, the only reason I was unsure is because if you only change part of the way from nearmap imagery then you have part sourced from nearmap, and part sourced from yahoo or survey. In that case, while far from ideal, but

Re: [talk-au] Direction of flow, rivers and streams

2010-07-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 13:39, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Most streams I look at on OSM have been drawn uphill, and I've been reversing the direction of ones I notice as wrong. Indeed, I find it more natural to draw streams that way myself, and then reverse them. Sometimes it's hard to

[talk-au] Over taking sections on highways

2010-07-26 Thread John Smith
How do people tag over taking sections on highways where there is no physical separation between oncoming traffic? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Over taking sections on highways

2010-07-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 July 2010 20:56, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 26/07/2010, at 7:12 PM, John Smith wrote: How do people tag over taking sections on highways where there is no physical separation between oncoming traffic? I've never tagged them before, but there is http

Re: [talk-au] Over taking sections on highways

2010-07-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 July 2010 21:31, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: Either that or tag it as lanes=3 and somehow indicate which direction the extra lane is in. As far as I recall, the rules for an overtaking lane aren't any different to the right hand lanes of a two-each-way road when it's

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-25 Thread John Smith
Not a single reply to Liz's request, so either these are limited to Australia or nobody else cares that much what the tag would be called, either way I made a new wiki page for this and shifted the content from the tagging guidelines page

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-25 Thread John Smith
On 26 July 2010 12:39, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 09:37 +1000, John Smith wrote: Not a single reply to Liz's request, so either these are limited to Australia or nobody else cares that much what the tag would be called, Just a thought, but you do realise

[talk-au] Maryborough-Hervey Bay Nearmap Imagery

2010-07-25 Thread John Smith
Is now online: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Queensland ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-24 Thread John Smith
On 24 July 2010 15:58, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I've tried cellardoor via google and not hit on any synonyms yet 'Tasting Room' comes back with quite a few hits, although cellar door sounds better to me... ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 July 2010 09:25, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: Should we put some effort into defining a standard based on Australian principles then post it on the tagging list? Easier to deal with a few rather than many suggestions/interests...maybe ;) Liz posted a question to the

Re: [talk-au] Wagga Wagga Airport

2010-07-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 July 2010 15:31, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:24:53 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: something else... Also I marked the RAAF taxiway etc as access=military although access=private might be more accurate since you can get permission

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-23 Thread John Smith
I don't think this kind of thing is Aussie specific and it would be better off being on it's own web page and/or going through the tagging list... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Wineries

2010-07-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 July 2010 15:28, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: I don't think this kind of thing is Aussie specific and it would be better off being on it's own web page and/or going through the tagging list... I have no idea about similar systems in other

Re: [talk-au] Mapping a blank spot

2010-07-22 Thread John Smith
On 22 July 2010 14:55, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: I, obviously, agree. This situation (speed limits in either direction bearing no relation to one another) is perhaps more common than you realise. and upon further thought, apart from trivial cases why should it not be so? The

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