Re: [talk-au] Nominatim gives wrong suburb?

2010-05-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 May 2010 23:40, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I think I know what might be going on. The property is clearly within the suburb of Annerley, however, the property's associatedStreet *is itself a suburb boundary*. If that's the case, is the street numbered? Maybe

Re: [talk-au] Nominatim gives wrong suburb?

2010-05-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 May 2010 08:51, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:17 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2010 23:40, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I think I know what might be going on. The property is clearly within the suburb

Re: [talk-au] Nominatim gives wrong suburb?

2010-05-12 Thread John Smith
On 13 May 2010 08:20, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Gday, On osm.org, search for Annerville Place. The Nominatim results suggest the address is in Yeronga, however, this should be Annerley. Can someone please check the relevant admin boundaries and let me know why this happens? I

Re: [talk-au] Perth Vandalism Reverted

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 May 2010 18:03, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: It's amazing that I was receiving emails saying You've just added/edited a non-existant road ..., Why did you do that? Are they in Perth or even Australia? ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Perth Vandalism Reverted

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 May 2010 18:23, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Both. Then you have to wonder why they didn't do something about it themselves... either to report it or fix it... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Perth Vandalism Reverted

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 May 2010 18:53, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Lazy. That doesn't make any sense since you were doing something about it and they contacted you... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] More General Observations

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 May 2010 19:33, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Mainly on straight roads. I know when tracing it can make it easier to do so using lots of nodes but this vandalism was hard to revert because of the number of excess nodes on ways. I've seen excess nodes created because people

Re: [talk-au] More Nearmap imagery

2010-05-09 Thread John Smith
A tad over 2000km^2 of imagery from the northern end of the central coast + Newcastle has become available. Nearmap has announced they took imagery of Gosford but this imagery isn't online so I assume this imagery is still to be processed and/or uploaded.

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 May 2010 11:00, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: This is a permanent waterway (the Shoalhaven River), and is quite wide at the ford to keep the water depth low. I would drop the layer tag, they still physically intersect. As for rendeing, I've filed a ticket:

Re: [talk-au] More Nearmap imagery

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
Yet more imagery is becoming available, filling in most of the gap south of Bendigo. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/904578 Nearmap now covers about 1.7% of Australia, pushing the area from just under 49,000km^2 the other day to now almost 57,000km^2.

Re: [talk-au] More Nearmap imagery

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 11:16, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. It looks like NearMap was denied air traffic clearance to fly over Puckapunyal. I would have thought flying over it would be a non-issue but it looks like it was one. I'm quite surprised how many military areas they

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 07:29, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: The -1 layer tag accurately describes the situation when the ford=yes tag is actually and literally applicable. There may be no special construction of the roadway at a ford - just a warning to expect a wet crossing for a period after

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 07:14, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: would we agree here when the waterway is dry (normal condition to me) Depends which side the range you are on, east of it they are often wet. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 11:16, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Not to mention the difference between a ford and a floodway. Sometimes the distinction isn't clear, and best left to the mapper. What is the difference between a ford and a floodway/causeway? I thought they were the same thing.

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] old Army Map Service Topographic Maps as WMS ?

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
Since US Gov data isn't copyright I thought this might interest some as there is some Australian maps... http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/imw/txu-oclc-6654394-sd-sc-52-2nd-ed.jpg http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/imw/txu-oclc-6654394-sd-sc-54-2nd-ed.jpg

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 12:37, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 08/05/10 11:57, John Smith wrote: What is the difference between a ford and a floodway/causeway? I thought they were the same thing. And a floodway to be a section of road that you wouldn't usually need to slow for, but which

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 13:16, ed...@billiau.net wrote: actually the next two pictures have the depth markers The Gwydir Highway east of Moree has a long stretch of road signed as flood plain including depth markers, but I'm still looking on google street view for the signs...

Re: [talk-au] rendering fords

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 May 2010 15:14, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Most floodway signs don't require slowing unless it's raining. I understood after Liz's photos, I'm used to them being referred as flood plains. ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] More Nearmap imagery

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
The Anglesea and surrounding areas is now coming online, it appears in total Nearmap have added an additional area of almost 2,500km^2 of imagery, although the flight seems to overlap with existing imagery from previous flights... The imagery is still being processed so some tiles don't render

[talk-au] NSW data sets

2010-05-05 Thread John Smith
Did anyone hear about data.nsw.gov.au ? http://data.nsw.gov.au/catalogue I found it by accident... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] NSW data sets

2010-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 May 2010 23:37, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: I did when it was launched but all the released Spatial data is standard copyright terms, not Creative Commons. Specifically for the Yea, after all the cc-by data on the australia.gov.au website it seems silly for NSW not to

Re: [talk-au] Pretty maps generated using OSM data

2010-05-04 Thread John Smith
On 4 May 2010 15:29, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Plus the infrastructure to request tiles in a given style, without having to download software. Most of the styles are linked to websites that you can use, or did you have something else in mind?

[talk-au] OSM Talk by David Dean in Brisbane on the 25th of May

2010-05-04 Thread John Smith
GUEST SPEAKER: David Dean on OpenStreetMap, a web 2.0, crowd sourcing, social networking development. Come along on 5:30pm Tuesday 25 May to the first 2010 SITSIG meeting in the new venue, ACS Level 7, 333 Adelaide St (Theodore Building, between Creek and Wharf Sts

[talk-au] Pretty maps generated using OSM data

2010-05-03 Thread John Smith
http://opengeodata.org/beautiful-railway-maps-of-india This is a good example of why having accessible data, not just map tiles, can be much more useful. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 May 2010 22:46, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure they have not flown Ballarat yet. I haven't seen any forum I could have sworn I saw them announce Ballarat on their forum, but I can't find it so I'll remove it... posts or twitter updates about Ballarat, but it

Re: [talk-au] Pretty maps generated using OSM data

2010-05-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 May 2010 13:57, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: A second thought: it would be nice to have a standard collection of the major map styles, to instantly generate this kind of map for wherever. Obvious candidates: You mean like mapnik.org publishes?

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
On 2 May 2010 23:44, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Where is there discussion about the 'harmful' effect of tagging each entry/exit way? Ive had a quick look but only came across that comment. What that means is entrance or exits from different parts of the intersection shouldn't

[talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
I was curious how much actual coverage Nearmap currently has, and since we have boundaries for Nearmap coverage I thought I'd make use of them. I rounded the area to 2dp, but here is the result... Sydney = 9054.79km^2 Carnarvon = 2352.25km^2 Perth = 32454.66km^2 Rottness = 34.49km^2 Adelaide =

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 May 2010 08:23, Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: Which is 1.5% of australias total surface area (7 692 024km^2) with victoria leading the way with 20% of the state having aerial coverage (237,629km^2). I think it's somewhat less as the melbourne coverage extends into NSW, but even

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 May 2010 08:25, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Unless you live on one of those islands (as I do) and you want OSM maps You live on the island in the middle of a roundabout? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] Yahoo coverage

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
I wanted to know how the Yahoo coverage compared to Nearmap, turns out it's about 1/3rd the area. Brisbane: 7129.66km^2 Sunshine Coast: 1216.55km^2 Carins Area: 3114.15km^2 Townsville Area: 1615.53km^2 Rockhampton Area: 768.84km^2 Darwin Area: 735.13km^2 Adelaide Area: 2839.33km^2 Canberra Area:

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
This roundabout seems decorative to me http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.921013,145.647941z=21t=knmd=20100122 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 April 2010 22:59, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Read the wiki. Roundabouts should be drawn in full. Which is merely the opinion(s) of one or more people that wrote it, there seems to be 3 opinions on tiny roundabouts, they should be mapped in full, mini roundabout tagging is

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 April 2010 23:56, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: It will render correctly on mapnik if you set up mapnik to do so. No, the smaller the roundabout the more non-roundabout it will look, so it won't render correctly. What your proposing is tagging for the renderer, what I'm saying

Re: [talk-au] Abuse

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 April 2010 23:29, Voon-Li Chung chun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm new on the mailing list, so it would be appreciated if you could forgive some of the newbie / naive responses. Is anyone else slowly getting angrier about the vandalism :( ? The problem isn't the vandalism, it's

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 April 2010 01:13, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: While I tend to agree with this it's not what was my original issue. And I agree with you that 99.9% of roundabouts tagged as mini are wrong, it's the 0.1% that's in question. You'll also find it's Offence Provison under the road

[talk-au] Nearmap imagery north of Melbourne

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
More imagery north of Melbourne is coming online. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/56117394 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 April 2010 10:47, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: An octagon is the smallest number of nodes to accurately describe a circle. And they have been tidied using JOSM's circle function. According to the wiki a square is good enough although if a roundabout only has 3 exits I guess a

Re: [talk-au] Wikifiddling

2010-04-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 April 2010 19:26, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I think that we need to put our stuff on our own wiki. I don't see how you reached that conclusion. Because this is a public list and what I would have written in explanation is either rude or possibly defamatory. I read the

Re: [talk-au] Wikifiddling

2010-04-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 April 2010 22:25, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Just out of interest, if you dont use the wiki to figure out what tags to use, how DO you decide how to tag items? Do you just make things up, or are you referencing some other non-wiki source, which may also need to be kept

Re: [talk-au] Wikifiddling

2010-04-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 April 2010 23:11, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If you read what I said, you'll note the end of the sentence 'are rendered currently'. Yes, anyone can ask for anything to be rendered, but Im wondering how someone can tag stuff without bothering to read the wiki. I could

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-28 Thread John Smith
More tiny roundabouts... http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-36.784522,144.34539z=21t=hnmd=20100130 http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-36.781026,144.34619z=22t=hnmd=20100130 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] Interesting take on OSM growth and expansion...

2010-04-28 Thread John Smith
http://brainoff.com/weblog/2010/04/28/1556 “What would it take to map an entire country?” With the growing visibility of Map Kibera, that question is coming more frequently, especially in Africa, where both OpenStreetMap and traditional mapping are widely absent. This is a massive question,

[talk-au] Nearmap CEO in ABC radio interview

2010-04-27 Thread John Smith
From Nearmap's forum http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=334 Stuart, our founder and CEO, was recently interviewed by Desley Blanch for ABC's Innovations radio show. An MP3 of the show is here: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/ra/podcast/innovations/innovations_20100426.mp3 ...and a

[talk-au] Abuse

2010-04-27 Thread John Smith
As best I can tell someone is screwing about: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.86983lon=116.0088zoom=15layers=B000FTF First it was a primary Chloe Thurkle Highway, then it upgraded to a trunk road and called Charle Sheen Highway, and while some parts of that way actually do exists, but not

Re: [talk-au] Abuse

2010-04-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 April 2010 08:39, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: So rather than give them the satisfaction of letting it render how about we just delete it all. It looks like some of the road exists, so deleting it blindly isn't an option, although it might just be scratching the surface and

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 April 2010 15:25, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Nevertheless, I like my work to be as accurate as I can make it with a reasonable expenditure of effort. That's my point as well, trying to map small roundabouts in a similar fashion to larger ones makes them indistinguishable from a

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Smith
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the crux of this argument really comes down to people complaining because Garmin's don't do something meaningful with the information, and I'm guessing those that don't care either way or think mini roundabouts are valid don't have a Garmin.

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread John Smith
On 27 April 2010 10:53, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: They are very rare, and perhaps we should draw them out as roundabouts anyway. I think most people agree most mini-roundabouts are incorrectly tagged, as for the ones that may be deemed mini, that's where the secondary arguments of both sides

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 16:37, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I wasn't in on that discussion. If we don't have them in Australia, then what are they? I always thought they were those piddling little things where councils were too stingy to do anything more than paint a circle on the road.

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 18:18, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Having just done a bit of research, I agree. Here we go again... As I said before we all ended up agreeing to disagree... traffic island means a structure on a road to direct traffic, but does not include a road marking or painted

[talk-au] ISO-639-2

2010-04-25 Thread John Smith
Most people probably haven't bothered with other name tagging schemes other than english, however a quick glance at ISO-639-2 shows Australian Languages being 'aus' does this mean Aboriginal? http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php ___

Re: [talk-au] ISO-639-2

2010-04-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 22:17, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: According to Wikipedia, yes. The link at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-2_codes for aus redirects to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians#Languages As an experiment I updated the node for Uluru/Ayres

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-25 Thread John Smith
On 26 April 2010 11:02, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: I had thought of choker but my understanding of choker was the reverse of an island in the center, where the islands are at the sides of the road and narrows the road to one lane in the center. Chicanes are also becoming a

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 01:15, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: But why mark it incorrectly in the first place? a) People are lazy b) Person mapping forgot it was a round about and not a normal intersection when they map from GPS traces c) I'm sure I thought up a third reason at some point.

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 07:31, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I know of one turning circle (with island) which is a true roundabout according to the roadside signage on the entry: Are councils just being stingy when that happens because they bulk order one set of signs and then miss apply them?

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 11:06, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Alas, evidence says that's increasingly the case. Moreover, there's a lot of outsourcing to private contractors going on where the contractors either aren't told exactly what to do and guess, or just take the easiest way out

Re: [talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2010-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2010 12:28, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: This is the way it should work when proposals are developed to in use. I changed the one from Commnications Tower to man_made=tower name=Optus, Telstra, etc Did you add tower:type=communication?

[talk-au] More Nearmap imagery

2010-04-22 Thread John Smith
In the last few days there has been more imagery in southern NSW and central Vic. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/56117394 There is also new imagery available north of Sydney, along the coastline. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44122101

Re: [talk-au] South Australia NPWSA Parks

2010-04-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 April 2010 12:43, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, I am wondering if someone could answer a question regarding natural=coastline I have some NPSA Parks to add that start on land and continue into the ocean. Can you give a link to the area you are talking about?

Re: [talk-au] South Australia NPWSA Parks

2010-04-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 April 2010 13:23, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Here is an example of what I mean. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-38.05923lon=140.95711zoom=15 The whole of the park is in green. Do I need to split the park in 2 at the coastline? According to the wiki the bit in the water

Re: [talk-au] South Australia NPWSA Parks

2010-04-22 Thread John Smith
On 23 April 2010 14:34, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 April 2010 13:23, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Here is an example of what I mean. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-38.05923lon=140.95711zoom=15 The whole of the park is in green. Do I need to split the park

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] OSM Conference in 2011 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-04-21 Thread John Smith
, Canberra ACT 2601 -Original Message- From: aust-nz-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:aust-nz-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of John Smith Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 9:16 To: Cameron Shorter Cc: aust...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] OSM Conference in 2011 On 21

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] OSM Conference in 2011 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-04-20 Thread John Smith
...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of John Smith Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 9:16 To: Cameron Shorter Cc: aust...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] OSM Conference in 2011 On 21 April 2010 07:43, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Teaming with Linux.conf.au is a good idea

[talk-au] Browse object page now has links to the wiki

2010-04-20 Thread John Smith
When you browse an object, such as a node, way or relation, the tags and keys that have wiki pages now directly link to those wiki pages: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/673398346 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] Conferences to next year that we could use to promote OSM

2010-04-20 Thread John Smith
I forwarded about a government GIS conf in Canberra in November to the list already, and it also looks like wikipedian's in Australia are looking at a July conference in Sydney. Can those interested in trying to organise something in conjunction let me know so we can start co-ordinating efforts.

Re: [talk-au] There is a new version of Nokia Sports Tracker and it uses OSM

2010-04-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 April 2010 13:51, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: cool unless they are downloading tiles and the app gets a black-ban for overuse of resources Most of the time this isn't a problem, the last app that got banned was downloading excessive amounts of data to generate routing via the API

Re: [talk-au] State of The Map Downunder

2010-04-18 Thread John Smith
On 18 April 2010 19:47, Kevin Ruth Sheather mobilesheath...@bigpond.com wrote: The timing sounds good. I guess we wait and see how much the support the suggestion has. I found the Mapping Party yesterday most helpful. Thanks for your input. Maybe it'll end up as a talk and a booth at the

Re: [talk-au] State of The Map Downunder

2010-04-18 Thread John Smith
I've been contacted off list by a number of people that have had past experience and would be willing to help out, so it seems worth while, at least in principal to move ahead to a planning stage on what shape or scope such a conference should take, to that end I've setup a stub page that I would

[talk-au] State of The Map Downunder

2010-04-17 Thread John Smith
At yesterday's mapping party we were throwing round the idea of an Australian State of The Map event. How many people have had any experience running similar events? How many would be interested in volunteering to help organise/run such an event? Any suggestions on where to hold such an event?

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-14 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 18:37, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: It looks like some person (staehler) has bulk imported service stations multiple times with the same data; that had already been imported. Others seeing this? http://osm.org/go/uIWLpgodV-- The reverts should be done

[talk-au] More Nearmap imagery

2010-04-14 Thread John Smith
Updated imagery of southern Sydney, including more of the Royal National park and towns along the coast line towards Wollongong, the whole area except for a small pocket now has coverage. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/5/5c/Sydney_NearMap_April_15_2010.png

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 18:37, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, It looks like some person (staehler) has bulk imported service stations multiple times with the same data; that had already been imported. Have you asked them what happened?

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 19:39, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know - that's my best guess, not being a linguist at all. Judging by edits he might, there has been a large number of roads

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 19:56, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 April 2010 19:39, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know - that's my best guess, not being a linguist at all

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 20:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: OSM suddenly has the same street names as Google for many streets, and a few interesting streets which have new names Very high odds that copying has occurred from Google Maps, except for the series of errors made in the process. The

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 April 2010 07:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 14/04/10 07:25, Liz wrote: the user has replied, apologised, and asked for help in reverting several of his change sets. I will revert the following changesets for him unless beaten by the .au team: I've cleaned up the

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 April 2010 08:04, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: OK - time I did some research on how to revert things I guess. There is a handful of people that already do this, and imho it's best to leave it up to them to prevent accidents and edit wars.

[talk-au] UK gov wastes millions on redundant cycle route planner

2010-04-12 Thread John Smith
On his personal website Mr Taylor explains how a free online cycle route planner has been available in Cambridge since the Cambridge Cycling Campaign Journey Planner was launched in 2006. This system then mutated into CycleStreets, a nationwide project, which provides users with suggestions for

Re: [talk-au] What to do with fixme=not_reviewed

2010-04-12 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 11:30, Ken Self kens...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Is it enough to check the location of the node (easy) or should I leave the fixme tag until the address, phone number, fax number etc are also all verified (rather more difficult)? That tag is predominantly for location, it's

[talk-au] Revisiting Maleny, Qld

2010-04-12 Thread John Smith
I'd kind of forgotten about Maleny, some of you may have remembered it being mentioned it in the past when the Qld boundary data became available, here's a screen shot that was taken at the time: http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/maleny.png The boundary data was surprisingly accurate it turns

Re: [talk-au] Lonely Planet

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 April 2010 19:51, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I bought a Lonely Planet book of Oz today. I thought that I would use it for POIs - to try and put things on the map that are in the guidebook, as this would make OSM more attractive to tourists. I'm not starting at A and continuing to Z -

Re: [talk-au] Tamworth, NSW

2010-04-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 April 2010 10:20, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If youre still adding streets, then the mapping is hardly complete. How do you define complete? Do you include the foot/bike paths? Do you include tracks in the area, such as firetrails? What about slip lanes, one-way

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 April 2010 17:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: certainly there is now an M1 sign on the Hume Highway, just south of the Illawarra Highway turnoff, and it still costs zilch. 1 or 31? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 April 2010 23:41, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: And does it really have an M? Most signs on the Hume simply have 31 in a shield logo. NSW is supposed to be heading toward a MABC system, but my original point was about roadways with 'motorway' in the name, which isn't the same

Re: [talk-au] Admin Boundary Problem

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 April 2010 13:21, Mark marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Some how I caused a problem when uploading a national park with an admin Boundary when viewed in JOSM. Can you give us the way/relation ID number or at least the changeset, I can't find any national parks in the area you specified.

Re: [talk-au] Admin Boundary Problem

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 April 2010 17:19, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: One of the affected relations is 191568. I was the last person to change that relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/191568 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Admin Boundary Problem

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 April 2010 17:59, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: If the area near way 38666509 is downloaded into JOSM you should be able see what I mean. You should have used a relation instead of tagging individual ways, natural=water has to be a closed way or a closed multipolygon.

Re: [talk-au] route or collection relations

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 April 2010 18:35, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Anyway a question in regards to relations. I've notice some highways getting changed to relations for the name and ref number. Now some are having the relation=collection collection=street whereas most are relation=route

Re: [talk-au] Admin Boundary Problem

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 April 2010 18:30, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: The lake isn't one of my edits. To fix I assume I would create a relation of all the lake ways. Since it wasn't your edit I just fixed it. Although I couldn't find your national park attached.

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 April 2010 22:14, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I don't control the software generating the GPS data. I use the downloads from OSM Australia. Regardless, there is software involved in preparing the information from OSM to Garmin format. It's not just the navigation. The

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 April 2010 09:06, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: So, in other words.. yes, in some parts of the United States, freeway is implied to mean no toll, whereas in most of the US (and the rest of the world), freeway means the traffic flows free from restrictions, regardless of

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 April 2010 09:22, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: As you might have noticed, in brackets there was a phrase 'and the rest of the world', meaning 'not in the US'. Can you point to any definition that freeway implies toll-free? The wiki page I referrenced seems to disagree. I

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 April 2010 22:13, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I was using my GPS to navigate to an unfamiliar street today. Part of the Instead of altering data to make your GPS to work, why not alter the software generating the GPS data to use information from relations, otherwise you are

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 April 2010 22:13, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I had a look at the M5, and there is no name tag. Naming is only done via relations, which I'm not familiar with, and I'm not going to alter. Is it OK to simply add a name=M5 to all sections of the motorway? I also looked at I

Re: [talk-au] Floodways ?

2010-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 18:24, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: the blocks of houses. They don't look like drains at all. And they are very common in the Macarthur region. They're storm water drains, just not concrete ones... ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Floodways ?

2010-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 April 2010 19:14, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: Yes, but how would you map them? The ones at Narellan are about 50 metres wide, and I know of others that are wider. Too wide for a single line like a concrete drain. I've mapped them in the past as a single centreline, rather

Re: [talk-au] Floodways ?

2010-04-05 Thread John Smith
On 5 April 2010 21:57, Franc Carter franc.car...@intersect.org.au wrote: Hi, What if anything have people been using to map 'floodways', i.e channels that are design to retain water in high rainfall times., e.g I've mostly used waterway=drain

Re: [talk-au] Bendigo VIC (Micro?) Mapping Party

2010-04-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 April 2010 19:39, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: Are you interested in contributing to help make Bendigo VIC one of the better mapped regional cities in Australia? You might want to get as much mapped from Nearmap as possible, unless the goal of the mapping party is to

[talk-au] Nearmap Sunshine Coast imagery...

2010-04-03 Thread John Smith
Imagery for the Sunshine Coast, and north of Brisbane not already covered in previous flights is now coming online... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/ae/SEQld_Region_NearMap_April_3_2010.png ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

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