Except if something has massively changed, the GNAF data isn"t actually open.
Am 2. Oktober 2023 13:05:10 MESZ schrieb Daniel O'Connor
:
>While OSM doesn't have layers, https://openaddresses.io/ more or less acts
>as the address layer. The datasets there aren't all ODBL, but they are
>generally
See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/397565 while
amenity=charging_station is not the worst offender, it is still pretty
bad
https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/main/data/brands/amenity/charging_station.json
Am 15.12.2022 um 04:20 schrieb Phil Wyatt:
Hi
I wouldn't expect much traffic till the existing forum content has been
migrated, currently scheduled for the end of the month. That should then
give some slightly more definite structure to things than there is now.
Simon
Am 02.05.2022 um 05:01 schrieb Sam Wilson:
It's growing in use, I
Just to clarify, the OSMF doesn't just requires the waiver because it is
being difficult.
CC BY has fundamental issues that are widely ignored, the blog post is
simply the diplomatic summary that we hammered out together with CC (it
says so much in the text).
Simon
Am 01.12.2021 um 07:54
Am 06.11.2021 um 10:22 schrieb fors...@ozonline.com.au:
Quoting Simon Poole :
PS: wondering why Gruyere has that name.
Good question.
The town is named for a variety of cheese, as the area's history is in
the dairy industry. Cahillton Post Office first opened on 20 August
1892
This is a somewhat unsolved issue in OSM modelling, as both area
(extent) and node (assuming it is not simply the centroid of the area)
convey geometric information that the other cannot. IMHO best would be
to have a similar concept as we do for administrative areas that works
for "places" in
Am 12.09.2021 um 13:56 schrieb Andy Townsend:
It'll hopefully be deleted by the time that anyone gets to read this,
so not much point really.
Getting their link distributed is exactly what the operators want, so
-never- do that.
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Your proposed workflow would seem to be totally OK to me and is clearly
not an import. List the government data in the sources used in the
changeset and IMHO you are good to go.
Simon
Am 04.09.2021 um 12:51 schrieb Little Maps:
Hi all, my understanding is that the process described
Just as a comment: there is nothing so time consuming as fixing badly
mapped buildings (essentially drawing them from scratch is nearly always
faster), I would only import building outlines that are at a quality
level that you would not want to change them except if the building
itself has
At the danger of pointing out the glaringly obvious: assuming that
licence etc gets sorted out, the data is not being added in Australia,
but in other countries. If the number of imported elements is above a
handful in a country I would suggest at least giving a heads up on a
suitable country
Pro tip (out of experience*): check that the MSF rep actually knows
about OSM and what missing maps is.
Simon
* aka having to listen somebody going on about google maps at such an event.
Am 08.11.2019 um 04:41 schrieb Michael Collinson:
>
> Hi Vitva,
>
> If you don't get any other volunteers,
It should really be clear from the blog post, but just to clarify: the
interpretation of the CC BY licences that we based our guidance on is
CCs reading of the licence and the result of discussion with CC, not
something that the LWG invented.
Simon
Am 16.09.2019 um 10:27 schrieb Andrew Harvey:
Sebastian has already pointed to the switch2osm site.
But a general remark: if it was uneconomical for google to provide such
services as their previous price level or for free, there is no magic
wand waving that will make it economical for the OSMF to do it for free,
or even for the commercial
There was just a longish discussion on legal-talk on the topic:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2019-July/thread.html
(note that AUS is one of the three countries with a strong sweat of the
brow doctrine).
From a legal POV completing information with data from the
Should be fixed now thanks to Tom Hughes, seems as if the unpacking of
the coastline files ran out of space.
Note: neither a private slack channel nor a "relatively" obscure mailing
list are suitable channels for reporting operational problems. The
general OSM IRC channel or the operations
I think my immediate and largest concern if I was reviewing the
application (which I am not) would be: Oceania isn't just about Australia.
Have OSM communities outside of AUS (and NZ) even been addressed? While
not totally cast in stone, there is an assumption that territorial
chapters are
here will be some
common aspect of them that allows them to be mass disabled, but that
needs at least some time (and the admins need to be available).
Simon
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> On 7 May 2019 6:01:13 pm AEST, Simon Poole
Am 14.08.2018 um 23:23 schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick:
>
>
>
> On 14 August 2018 at 18:53, Simon Poole <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote:
>
> Yes, I've received some follow up questions that I'm in the
> process of answering now.
>
>
> Thanks Simon!
Am 13.08.2018 um 22:50 schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick:
>
>
> On 13 August 2018 at 17:44, Simon Poole <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote:
>
>> Could naturally be, they didn't give me details, so it is a bit
>> difficult to find out what has gone wrong (if
hey didn't give me details, so it is a bit
difficult to find out what has gone wrong (if anything). I can follow up
with them, maybe something simply got lost in the mail.
Simon
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
> On 13 August 2018 at 17:07, Simon Poole <mailto:si...@poole.ch>>
We've (as in the LWG) have received a mail from the City of Gold Coast
concerning multiple repeat requests for CC BY waiver (no need to point
out that that can be annoying). IMHO the AUS community already documents
what is going on rather well
There are a number of task manger instances run outside of HOT (which
would really really not be an appropriate one). It's on the other side
of the world but please feel free to use our (SOSM) instance
http://tasks.osm.ch/ (which is currently mainly used for coordinating an
address import).
Am 16.03.2018 um 15:02 schrieb Jonathon Rossi:
>
> Agreed, Australia isn't even mentioned. After looking for at the
> source of that page I now understand why no one edits it, crazy yaml
> and it's localised:
>
Am 14.03.2018 um 22:50 schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick:
>
>
> OK, a stupid, well & truly outside the box, thought here! :-)
>
> If we have discussions with CC, is there any possibility of getting
> them to write into CC BY 4.5 & following editions, that "by the
> Organisation agreeing to the terms of
Am 14.03.2018 um 13:06 schrieb Jonathon Rossi:
> ...
>
> Could you please point me to a good resource that explains why CC BY
> 2.5 and 3.0 don't have the same problem with "technical protection
> measures" that we've got in the waivers because I'm obviously missing
> something. I've read the
To give a bit more context and perhaps point out a way to resolve this
without every thing blowing up:
At the time the permission from data.gov.au was obtained, OSM was in the
final stages of the licence change. Normally the LWG wouldn't have
become directly involved at all in the matter of
On 12.03.2018 21:28, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> On 12/03/18 22:57, Simon Poole wrote:
>>
>> - has the DNRM explicitly made a statement on the validity of the
>> explicit permission from data.gov.au back then?
>
> All you need is a basic understanding of the Austra
d, for the equivalent terms in
older CC licenses to be waived too. We've however not asked anybody to
go back to CC BY 2.X sources from which we have received permission in
the past and assume that such permission continues to be valid for the
datasets it was given at the time.
Simon
> On Mo
Am 12.03.2018 um 11:13 schrieb Simon Poole:
>
>
> Making clear that we don't the validity of the permission granted for
> the CC BY 2.5 datasets, but don't extend it to covering the current
> ones and avoid speculating on internal government arrangements way back.
>
Tha
Please folks, don't try to a) make this more complicated than it already
is, b) try to undo stuff that is long done.
I would consider the wording change on the contributors page to be not a
good idea (or even factual), and would suggest that it be changed from
"The explicit permission granted
Looks good to me.
Simon
Am 01.02.2018 um 12:08 schrieb Joel H.:
>
> Hi All! I have made a response to DNRM, regarding the licensing for
> locality boarders. Please give a critique before I send!
>
>
> /Hello [NAME],//
> //
> //Thank you for your time and consideration regarding the approval for
ight owner to waive their rights
> to this clause to allow downstream users of the collective OSM data so
> that for example it could be put on a Bluray disc. Their data would
> still be CCBY licensed, and the OSM data would be a mix of ODbL and
> CCBY licensed data?
>
> /cc S
Hi all
I was on the road the last two weeks so didn't see this thread, sorry.
(Un-)luckily the situation is completely clear, we need the waiver as
provided here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3PN5zfbzThqeTdWR1l3SzJVcTg/view to be
able to use the data in OSM. Even better: you don't even need
Am 30.05.2017 um 12:04 schrieb Andrew Harvey:
>
> This is what they've said:
>
> "I have discussed this with our legal section and we are not in a
> position to waive the conditions of CC BY, as it goes against the ACT
> Government Open Data Policy that supports free and open data.
>
> My
Andrew, pls jog my memory, is the ACT data available on CC BY 4.0 terms
or are the terms based on a earlier version?
The problem with point 2 is that, if taken seriously, the relevant terms
impose rather far reaching restrictions on how derived works can be
used, for example a map generated from
Nick
Thank you for your interest in the topic and your support.
I'm the chair of the OSMF licence/legal working group and an Aussie
ex-pat (very very ex) that lurks here are bit, and am fairly opinionated
on the topic :-).
As Phil has pointed out if you want to have a larger discussion the
import from dataset we can't use).
>
> On 26/04/17 21:36, Simon Poole wrote:
>> Not sure if anybody from the AUS community actually follows
>> https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/876-countries-compare-2017-04-26
>>
>> , but a large number of bou
Not sure if anybody from the AUS community actually follows
https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/876-countries-compare-2017-04-26
, but a large number of boundaries in Tasmania were deleted yesterday,
for example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6269038/history
I didn't
B3PN5zfbzThqX0NNdFBDejE2RFE/view?usp=sharing>.",but
> that document only says CC-BY-2.0. Is it simply a matter of replacing
> 2.0 with 3.0? There is mention made of Sections 4a & b of CC-BY-2.0 -
> do those same sections apply in 3.0?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
See https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ for our
(LWG) position.
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Andrew
This should likely be added as a source to
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index , and naturally it would be
nice if we could find somebody to run a mapproxy instance or similar so
that it could be used in iD and other editors that don't support WMS
servers. We (SOSM) would likely
Hi Luke
That looks great, if I may say so as a very non-local :-).
In general there is not a pre-defined top priority list (outside of
mapping your own special area of interest), but I suspect that there is
some agreement that
- general transport infrastructure
- points of interests (shops,
The issues are essentially:
- we did not receive special permission to distribute the data in OSM
with attribution via the website. IMHO the permission we received for
earlier versions boiled down to allowing us to sub-license on ODbL
terms. This has now been implicitly denied. CC by 4.0 does
ve misunderstood the issues in this discussion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015, at 08:51 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
>>
>> I just had a quick look at the licence terms. While the license is
>> based on CC by 4.0 (which is own can of worms) it u
The Karlsruher Schema is intended for postal addresses, typically the
tags are used on building outlines or on nodes. I wouldn't use them on
landuse boundaries. Nor would I import fine grained land ownership in
the first place (you should be able to find discussion of the pros and
cons on the
I just had a quick look at the licence terms. While the license is based
on CC by 4.0 (which is own can of worms) it unluckily contains a
provision prohibiting specific use that makes the data clearly (as in we
will never, in no circumstances be able to adhere to the terms) unusable
for OSM and
.gov.au/pmc/about-pmc/core-priorities/public-data-branch-within-dpmc/geocoded-national-address-data-be-made-openly-available
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 at 20:53 Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch
> <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote:
>
>
> I just had a quic
ith CC by 4.0 based licences that remain
unresolved, see the discussion on legal-talk.in May 2015.
Simon
> [1] - http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 at 21:39 Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch
> <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote:
>
>
Am 14.12.2015 um 03:17 schrieb Russell Edwards:
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to double check before I do this as people seem to talk
> casually about using Vicmap Lite data but the OSM Wiki has a long
> process to go through with the community before doing any imports.
It should be pointed out that
May I suggest adding similar entries to
https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index so that iD and other
editors can make the imagery available too?
Thanks
Simon
Am 08.12.2015 um 07:54 schrieb Andrew Harvey:
> I've put together a JOSM Imagery Sources document at
>
Andrew
Sydney was mostly empty post-licence change (for reasons I will not go
in to now) and lots of the roads were re-traced in an mad dash to patch
things up. At the time there was some expectation that it wouldn't take
all too much time for the street names to be fixed (given that Sydney is
Am 23.02.2015 um 00:33 schrieb Andrew Harvey:
...
Just curious what's this used for?
Firming up the trademark application in Australia, see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trademark#Expansion_of_OpenStreetMap_Mark_Coverage
Simon
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The LWG is trying to document, preferably, early events with
OpenStreetMap participation and press/media mentions or pieces on OSM in
Australia. Typical stuff that we are looking for are: coverage of
mapping parties, conferences and exhibitions that have had community
participation, talks and so
Am 20.08.2014 11:38, schrieb Leon Kernan:
Yes, this would be great. For people who've never seen it, check out
Geelong on http://demo.f4map.com and you can see how big building data
is going to be.
I believe some building imports are going to be essential at the start.
It's just
currently the ele values are floats, so I'll add a manual step to round the
metres from floats to integers before any import.
Cheers,
Chas
On 4 May 2014, at 0:08, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Christopher,
I just browsed through the .osm file and then checked the .csv, is it
correct
Christopher,
I just browsed through the .osm file and then checked the .csv, is it
correct that the import (and the original data) doesn't actually have
any elevation information?
Simon
Am 03.05.2014 21:00, schrieb Christopher Barham:
Hi,
I'd like to propose a small data import of ~2500
some public speaking,
and/or participation on a panel. If there are enough people
interested they could assist with a mapping party or training day.
Simon Poole - is this something you would have time for?
Regards,
Charles
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Ian, thanks for the interesting data. I believe we are all somewhat
relieved that we are recovering from the redaction process relatively
fast, if not faster than expected.
Simon
PS: There is however still room for a large mapping party in Sydney to
collect street names :-)
Am 25.05.2013
Brett
Who was this OSM administrator that contacted you? In any case there
is a hard limit of 2000 nodes per way in the API (for all editors) ,
there is no reason that hitting is this should cause corruption though
(your data might not make a lot of sense, but that is not the same as
database
http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/de/?zoom=8lat=-32.29866lon=138.82018hill=2
Click on the route button in the lower left corner, click on the route
in question, theres aGPX button at the top of the popup.
Simon
Am 22.02.2013 09:53, schrieb David Clark:
Is there a way I can export a route as
Am 20.12.2012 16:08, schrieb Darren Burt:
Now, my basic understanding of the 'new' OSM license is that the OSM
database may be used for commercial activities, which would put it in
direct conflict with the Auspost database usage requirements.
Can anyone confirm that this is the case? Or at
Am 28.09.2012 18:07, schrieb Chris Barham:
..
Might be a good time to do it as the remaining rebuild jobs for
Australia seem to be nearing completion:
Brisbane: http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/29
Hobart: http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/33
So I imagine some people will be looking for more
I've installed a new version of the task manager. This version
supposedly includes a number of fixes: stats, validating/invalidating a
tile by clicking on it are the ones that I am aware of.
Simon
Am 03.08.2012 00:46, schrieb Simon Poole:
Am 02.08.2012 23:54, schrieb Simon Poole:
..
I
Somebody is marking tiles in the Sydney area as finished even though
they actually are not.
In case whoever did that is listening ... that isn't a good idea.
Example
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.72294lon=151.07504zoom=16layers=M
Simon
I've reset the status of all tiles by the user in question. I hope that
at least on some of them he actually did some work and that they only
need a quick check.
Simon
Am 07.08.2012 19:48, schrieb Simon Poole:
Somebody is marking tiles in the Sydney area as finished even though
they actually
Am 02.08.2012 23:03, schrieb Richard Weait:
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote:
The Sydney-Newcastle coastal corridor is now 100% done! It's particularly
great to see the inner Newcastle area bounce back - this region was
anhialated by the redaction.
There
Am 02.08.2012 23:54, schrieb Simon Poole:
..
I believe this is just an internal accounting issue or potentially
even just a display problem (the tiles attributed to you are probably
for the major part ocean tiles that I went through very fast), I
haven't seen an issue with the totals.
I
mapped and which have not. The goal
being increased coordination and reduced duplication.
There are several mapping tasks currently, including Sydney, kindly
hosted by Simon Poole.
http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/8
I see that ten users are mapping in Sydney with the tasking server, in
addition
They should both be OK, with the exception of a minor hickup along the
way (which may also be fixed in the mean time), what does nead work are
the last 200k or so of the Paific Highway in to Brisbane.
In any case I would wait till OSRM has been updated (9:00 CEST
tomorrow) it makes it far
If you are tracing from aerial imagery it would be a good idea to use
rebuild.poole.ch to avoid conflicts. I'm looking for a volunteer to add
more areas for Australia.
Simon
Am 22.07.2012 06:11, schrieb ianlopez:
Good afternoon, Australian OpenStreetMap contributors and other
mailing list
Am 22.07.2012 01:51, schrieb Brett Russell:
Hi
A few things.
1. I used Polatch 2 to add a house and give it an address. I chose
the last house in Oldaker Street Devonport with the number 237. How
do I link the house to the street?
Add addr:street to the house (either building outline or
Am 20.07.2012 10:17, schrieb Ian Sergeant:
On 20 July 2012 16:19, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com
mailto:stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
IMHO it would be very beneficial to have overseas armchair mappers in
whatever capacity they like. There are so many little roads around the
place -
As all probably know we have two large areas where data had to be
removed, Poland and Australia besides a number of smallish hotspots.
I would think it would be a really good idea to set up a HOT tasking
server (no idea about it inner workings and if it makes sense to do this
all in one, or
The edits by the redaction bot can be seen here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMF%20Redaction%20Account/edits
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It really depends on what you want to visualize. None of the available
tools give an 100% exact picture (simply because that would have
required setting up a clone of the main DB and essentially carrying out
the redaction on it). The shape files from Frederiks OSMI layer are
available, however
Here's the original announcement by Richard (note the tiny Freudian slip
wrt the date).
As soon as the bot starts running, I'll stop consuming diffs (that is
syncing with the OSM database) for cleanmap et al. In other words
remapping happening later will not get reflected in the data.
I'll
://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/147608820;147608820/a?
Steve
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
I've been generating lists of tainted bits and pieces of major roads for
a couple of countries for a while (the data is extracted from the
cleanmap DB and comes
Am 01.07.2012 14:06, schrieb Mark Pulley:
Presumably in that case, even though the way is (magically) fixed, the
nodes haven't been, so the way will still disappear once the nodes
have been deleted (as the Badmap view doesn't take into account the
ODBL status of the nodes)
By definition
I've been generating lists of tainted bits and pieces of major roads for
a couple of countries for a while (the data is extracted from the
cleanmap DB and comes with the same caveats).
I've actually been running this for AUS the whole time, but haven't
published the results. I've now uploaded
Maybe of interest
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-April/062753.html
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while IMHO communications in OSM and out of OSM leave much to desire, in
the case of the licence change there has been a substantial amount of
communication to the mappers. The only reason I can see for you -not-
getting a mail from the OSMF early on, is that you must have practically
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