Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-25 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: What happens when you run out of osm coverage? When you run out of OSM data you start making your own :) Definitely, but the end user gets annoyed when there is no map. When looking for something else I found this:

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:02:55 +1000 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Liz wrote: The version is v2.10pre4 how do i get it to use OSM? after a lot of fiddling, and breaking the modem software further, i got the pre7svn installed i managed to download some osm maps but

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: You don't need to download the map tiles (and yes I agree it is not user friendly), if you install from svn as per here: I'll try and build a i386 deb file from this, apart from lack of deb file what else needs attending to to make

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: You don't need to download the map tiles (and yes I agree it is not user friendly), if you install from svn as per here: I'll try and build a i386 deb file from this, apart from lack of deb

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: i installed from deb following http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml and got 2.10svn2451 Even better, I assumed there weren't any based on what Ross said in a previous email.

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
H, gpsdrive isn't very friendly for small systems... 0 upgraded, 89 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 99.4MB of archives. After this operation, 269MB of additional disk space will be used. Not really wanting to dig into why there is so many dependencies, but

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: H, gpsdrive isn't very friendly for small systems... 0 upgraded, 89 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 99.4MB of archives. After this operation, 269MB of additional disk space will be used. Not really wanting to dig into

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: database I'm taking mine off it didn't get a fair trial but i'm already adjusted to tangogps and navit apt-get autoremove then removed 26.8MB which on the little machine is a luxury that cannot be afforded

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
When pgsql needs to be installed and all the rest of the mapnik stuff I'm starting to get concerned that there won't be enough space on my eeePC to load the data for gpsdrive. I don't want to buy a 32G sd card just to have mapping. ___

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I'm taking mine off it didn't get a fair trial but i'm already adjusted to tangogps and navit yea when I saw the need for pgsql I'm borking too, too complicated and I don't see enough benefit over navit to be honest, it was much

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I'm taking mine off it didn't get a fair trial but i'm already adjusted to tangogps and navit yea when I saw the need for pgsql I'm borking too, too complicated and I don't see enough benefit over navit to be honest, it was much

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: apt-get autoremove then removed 26.8MB which on the little machine is a luxury that cannot be afforded Try debfoster/deborphan... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: When pgsql needs to be installed and all the rest of the mapnik stuff I'm starting to get concerned that there won't be enough space on my eeePC to load the data for gpsdrive. I don't want to buy a 32G sd card just to have mapping. and after all that

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: That's one of the problems with the current deb packages.  Looks like I'm going to have to get a 701 and try it out to see what these 89 packages are. I installed Lenny Debian, so getting a 701 probably won't help in that respect,

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: I know the others like navit are easy to install etc but can you use a digital topo map with them? What happens when you run out of osm coverage? Sorry missed this bit, I don't think they do image overlays, I could be wrong, but

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-21 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: I know the others like navit are easy to install etc but can you use a digital topo map with them? What happens when you run out of osm coverage? to use a digital topo map with navit you would build it into the garmin format img file and then use that

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-20 Thread Liz
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: a couple of years back I did communicate with the devs on IRC once again you'll have to communicate with german speaking people At least with gpsdrive most of us speak english fairly well. gpsdrive currently does not have routing, however the next

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-20 Thread Liz
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Liz wrote: The version is v2.10pre4 how do i get it to use OSM? after a lot of fiddling, and breaking the modem software further, i got the pre7svn installed i managed to download some osm maps but it isn't 'user friendly' i've tried downloading maps at varied scales

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 20/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: after a lot of fiddling, and breaking the modem software further, i got the pre7svn installed i managed to download some osm maps but it isn't 'user friendly' i've tried downloading maps at varied scales but not been able to switch

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-19 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 19/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Here is a screen shot of gpsdrive in car mode. http://www.4x4falcon.com/screenshots/gpsdrive_car_mode.jpg Can you do one zoomed in on OSM street data and/or showing some kind of navigation path?

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-19 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 19/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: It would be nice to have the deb install working perfectly, but that's another issue, and is the main delay behind the final release of 2.10 What issues specifically? Did they ask on a debian mailing list for help?

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:58:29 + (GMT) John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I recently acquired a 7 eeePC and I wondered what everyone is using for mapping/routing etc to be useful on small screens? ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 18/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: It's *possible* to use JOSM, but you need to alt+click/drag a lot to move the window around. Usually I'd just plug it into an external monitor. Potlatch is useable, although the requirement of an Internet connection

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 18/7/09, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote: I would be interested in seeing that. Where is it.  I have never managed to get gpsd to work. The hardest part is usually getting a kernel driver for the device, once you have some kind of /dev/ interface, all the

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: --- On Sat, 18/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: on the neo I've used navit but its just too small for ageing eyes on that screen so now i use tangogps on the eeepc tangogps was the easiest to get up and running, but no routing which is a shame

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread Liz
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: you need an alternate map http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ must work with flash, doesn't work in konqueror there is also Rana http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rana which I haven't tried ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread Ross Scanlon
Additionally I have the osm data installed as part of the base install to run mapnik for gpsdrive. Best thing about this is that it displays the map as openstreetmap does as it uses the xml file from osm to generate the map. -- Cheers Ross ___

Re: [talk-au] Best linux mapping/routing setup

2009-07-18 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 18/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.rigacci.org/wiki/doku.php/doc/appunti/hardware/eeepc_navit That looks the best alternative so far, haven't figured out tts yet, and it's going to be a pain until debian releases their next distro, but it does just work.