Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2010 10:28:24 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:23, Alex Lum sierra.os...@gmail.com wrote: tag k='attributation' v='Australian Communications and Media Authority,

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 May 2010 15:07, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I came across one of these (Holmesglen TAFE, Moorabbin). Was I supposed to do anything more than move it to what appears to be the actual tower (nearmap) and remove the fixme:to_be_reviewed (or whatever) tag? Unless you have

[talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-25 Thread Alex Lum
tag k='attributation' v='Australian Communications and Media Authority, Register of Radiocommunications Licences' / tag k='attributation:url' v='http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_9150' / Should these keys be attribution instead of attributation? Alex.

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-25 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Wed, 26 May 2010 10:28:24 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:23, Alex Lum sierra.os...@gmail.com wrote: tag k='attributation' v='Australian Communications and Media Authority, Register of Radiocommunications Licences' / tag k='attributation:url'

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-20 Thread John Smith
Have since uploaded these locations: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4757013 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
I've managed to convert most of the relevant information from the ACMA spread sheet and convert it to OSM format using nodes and relations, including start and end dates for temporary licenses. So the question now is what to do with the data, there is 2,152 locations and 7,633

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
Sorry forgot to attach a sample tower for comments on the tags I used. sample.osm Description: Binary data ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Liz
On Mon, 17 May 2010, John Smith wrote: The current tagging scheme for doing transponders don't seem to take multiple transponders on the same tower: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural areas... ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 18 May 2010, you wrote: On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural areas... that's this

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Tue, 18 May 2010, you wrote: On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones Maybe so, but the data the ACMA released only covers TV and radio stations, it

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Liz
On Tue, 18 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 18 May 2010 09:35, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: The original data source contains all those kinds of things: http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_proximity.nearby_sites_list?pMODE= DMSpLAT=-35.13873086pLONG=149.17643464 It

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 18 May 2010, John Smith wrote: On 18 May 2010 09:50, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Interesting, lists commercial licencees only That's a list of transmission sites, while most are probably commercial installations, I'm guessing some of the transponders will be for community radio

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 10:29, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: FF3 or Konqueror was enough to get a listing of the sites close to a given area despite a piece saying xml error They have a map, but I couldn't get it to work, just the XML errors in frames... ___

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:41 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still after suggestions on how to tag multiple transponders for the same node, I don't think tagging multiple nodes on the same spot is a good idea, using a single node + multiple relations might work I suppose,

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 13:00, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Relations should only be used for groups of objects in which each object may take on a specific role. Maybe so, but it's often the best way to tag things at present since you can't have duplicate keys, but in this case you are

[talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Thread John Smith
CC-by dataset just turned up: http://data.australia.gov.au/622 It seems pretty straight forward to convert this to .osm format, suitable for JOSM. However I'm after suggestions on how to deal with the .osm file(s). I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing the non-metro data sets and then offering the metro data sets on a request basis, or is there a better way to handle this and other

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing the non-metro data sets and then offering the metro data sets on a request basis, or is there a better way to handle this and other

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 15:07, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Is that because you're worried there will be a lot of duplicates with existing data in metro areas? Could you perhaps import it all, but Some people were upset at previous imports in metro areas.