If you want to do some mapping from home, then BING imagery is usually
more
than adequete and is and will continue to
be OSM comliant. This way your efforts will not be in vain whether you
stay
with OSM, or branch off to another project.
I map in places where the best imagery is usually
- Original Message -
From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
To: Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors
On 11 April 2011 13:45, Nick Hocking nick.hock
The only thing that gives me hope is that all the current data can be
forked into a new project
Hi Neal,
I don't think you have any problem then. Contribute to FOSM or even just
continue to use the OSM toolset and database. Your data will still be
available to the FOSM project.
For the time
Hi,
This sums up me too. After years of mapping in Australia (when I
started in Tasmania the map was literally blank) the threat of data
deletion is the most de-motivating thing ever. I have used nearmap so
I am of the understanding I CAN'T accept the terms. I also agree that
many who
Neal wrote This sums up me too.
Hi Neal,
If you do want do do some mapping then there is still a way to do it.
Create a new account, accept the CT's and then
If you want to do some survey mapping, just be careful not to work on areas
that have been mapped or touched by OSMers
who have
On 11 April 2011 13:45, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Create a new account, accept the CT's and then
Has the CTs been updated to allow for this, or do they still refer to
a natural person?
Also that doesn't help if someone only wishes to support projects
using share a like
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:53:02 +1000
Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote:
Supposedly it sends you to this flippant page if you decline the CT:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributor_Terms_Declined
I think the lolcat picture on that page tells us exactly what they
think of
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
All Blokes speed_13...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many
but I was planning on getting right into it.
I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on
the side reading.
On 7 April 2011 21:07, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I don't see a lolcat on that page, was it on another page?
Certainly the lolcat on the front page of the osm wiki makes me wonder
about the IQ of the page writers
Looks like Grant has removed it from the current version of the
On 7 April 2011 12:07, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I don't see a lolcat on that page, was it on another page?
Certainly the lolcat on the front page of the osm wiki makes me wonder
about the IQ of the page writers
I removed the lolcat from the decline page + translations... It
On 7/04/2011 9:10 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
All Blokesspeed_13...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many
but I was planning on getting right into it.
I don't agree with the new licensing and have just
On 08/04/11 05:47, John Henderson wrote:
On 07/04/11 21:10, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
It's sad that this is happening
A vibrant aussie community has gone down the drain within the last 12
months.
I have spent 3 1/2 years (nearly) adding big tracts of eastern
australia to the osm map, and now
On 08/04/11 06:25, {withheld} wrote:
Whilst I agree / commiserate with your basic point (been there; done
that; spent the fuel), don't you still have the raw traces from your
device? I certainly do, and consider at no point have I ever given up my
rights to them.
I couldn't see any point in
On 08/04/11 06:37, John Henderson wrote:
On 08/04/11 06:25, {withheld} wrote:
Whilst I agree / commiserate with your basic point (been there; done
that; spent the fuel), don't you still have the raw traces from your
device? I certainly do, and consider at no point have I ever given up my
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 07:30:29 +1000
{withheld} pheasant.cou...@gmail.com wrote:
Whilst I agree / commiserate with your basic point (been there;
done that; spent the fuel), don't you still have the raw traces
from your device? I certainly do, and consider at no point have I
ever given up my
On 08/04/11 07:30, {withheld} wrote:
VNT-2: You didn't upload the traces to OSM, and thus have the capability
to legitimately download them again; do you? Worth checking:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/your-OSM-id/traces.
Unfortunately no. The few traces I've uploaded have been the pure
On 8 April 2011 05:47, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote:
It wouldn't be nearly so bad if we could simply agree to the new terms for
objects outside Nearmap coverage (and for future contributions), but have
our contaminated work removed.
Well our first priority should be to try and get an
To be clear; we're not refusing anything - our licence has remained the
same since we launched, and we haven't changed it. The new OSM CTs are
incompatible with it.
Regards
Ben
On 7 April 2011 08:14, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 April 2011 10:06, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On 8 April 2011 07:30, {withheld} pheasant.cou...@gmail.com wrote:
Very naughty thought. I wonder what the reaction would be to a simple,
formal request to OSMF to re-grant you your rights to OSM data along the
same alignments on the basis OSM is backing up an effective copy of your
lost data?
On 08/04/11 10:46, John Smith wrote:
On 8 April 2011 07:30, {withheld} pheasant.cou...@gmail.com wrote:
Very naughty thought. I wonder what the reaction would be to a simple,
formal request to OSMF to re-grant you your rights to OSM data along the
same alignments on the basis OSM is backing up
-- Forwarded message --
From: Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
Date: 6 April 2011 19:08
Subject: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...
To: d...@openstreetmap.org
... the License Working Group intends implementing Phase 3 of the
license change implementation plan [1]. This involves
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:31:53 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com didn't write: (Michael Collinson
did)
For clarity:
- This will only affect (77,000) contributors who registered before
May 2010 and who have not accepted the new terms as part of the
voluntary re-licensing program.
On 6 April 2011 10:51, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:31:53 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com didn't write: (Michael Collinson
did)
For clarity:
- This will only affect (77,000) contributors who registered before
May 2010 and who have not accepted
On 06/04/11 19:31, John Smith wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz
Date: 6 April 2011 19:08
Subject: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...
To: d...@openstreetmap.org
... the License Working Group intends implementing Phase 3 of the
license
I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many but I was
planning on getting right into it.
I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on the side
reading.
I have some firm views against the new licensing and also about the methods
that
have
So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the
data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data?
I have read what I could about the new Contributor Terms and I get the
drift about the CC-BY-SA and ODbL. Just not sure about the OSMF bit.
Regards,
Michael
On 06/04/2011, at 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote:
... the License Working Group intends implementing Phase 3 of the
license change implementation plan [1]. This involves blocking edits
with HTTP Forbidden messages until the individual contributor has
Accepted/Declined the new terms by logging in
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:50 AM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote:
Time to go read the CTs again...
Hi James,
That's one of the sections of v1 that has been clarified in v1.2.4.
Have a look.
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms
There are around 12,000 accounts which have prior to May 2010
contributed 95%+ of all the data.
So how many of these 12,000 accounts have agreed to the new CT's?
Cheers
Ross
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There are around 12,000 accounts which have prior to May 2010
contributed 95%+ of all the data.
Regards
Grant
Also how many of these are actual people not import accounts eg ABS2006?
Cheers
Ross
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:52 AM, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
There are around 12,000 accounts which have prior to May 2010
contributed 95%+ of all the data.
Regards
Grant
Also how many of these are actual people not import accounts eg ABS2006?
I don't know, I haven't tried to
] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors
I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many but I was
planning on getting right into it.
I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on the side
reading.
I have some firm views against the new licensing
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 22:09 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote:
So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the
data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data?
Well, it depends what you read. According to the wiki, stage 4 is when
OSM asks the community what
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:37 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 22:09 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote:
So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the
data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data?
Well, it depends what you
On 7 April 2011 09:37, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
In UK:
- This will remove 65% of users
- This will remove 40% of nodes, 40% of ways and 10% of relations
In Europe:
- This will remove 61% of users
- This will remove 20% of nodes, 20% of ways and 15% of relations
I wonder
On 7 April 2011 10:06, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
What happened to NearMap?
Nearmap have refused to allow data derived from their imagery to be
used without guarantee of attribution and share-a-like in a future
license, or having a guarantee that such data would be removed
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 April 2011 10:06, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
What happened to NearMap?
Nearmap have refused to allow data derived from their imagery to be
used without guarantee of attribution and
On 7 April 2011 10:31, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:
Surely that's a simple procedural matter then (CT 1.2.4 already has
It always has been, but as others have pointed out, control of the
process has gone on largely without proper consultation and feedback
to better shape what
On 6 April 2011 21:47, All Blokes speed_13...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many but I
was planning on getting right into it.
I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on the side
reading.
Just out of interest, I'd
Supposedly it sends you to this flippant page if you decline the CT:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributor_Terms_Declined
I think the lolcat picture on that page tells us exactly what they think of
those of us that won't / can 't / don't want to accept their terms.
Certainly
On 7 April 2011 00:37, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 22:09 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote:
So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the
data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data?
Well, it depends what you read.
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 03:19 +0100, Grant Slater wrote:
For clarity: (according to odbl.de)
In Australia:
For pete's sake! Stop making up blatantly untrue stuff.
Those are likely the precentages if we moved *today* without even
formally contacting/emailing anyone.
I never made
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