[talk-au] Nearmap will still be very useful.

2011-06-17 Thread Nick Hocking
Since (for the areas it covers) Nearmap is likely to be to most up-to-date imagery available, we can use it to spot where new roads have sprung up in towns that do not currently have an active mapper driving around. We can then schedule a trip to said town to remedy the situation. For other

Re: [talk-au] nearmap LWG minutes

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit late to the game but the one of the LWG minutes talks about nearmap... It isn't apparent from the link, but for the information of those reading them here without checking the original document, the

[talk-au] nearmap LWG minutes

2011-06-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
I'm a bit late to the game but the one of the LWG minutes talks about nearmap... From part 4 of the LWG minutes https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_83gvxm3xgdpli=1 - Automated deriving Nearmap believe that their copyright exists in works derived from their imagery, so this would

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-22 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 20:00 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: A nearmapper has decided that badly out-of-date nearmap imagery was more authorative than my GPS traces (taken last weekend) and has For anyone interested in the area, NearMap imagery of the new suburbs (taken the Friday before Nicks

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-14 Thread Ben Kelley
: Saturday, 14 May 2011 14:28 To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date No I didn't though maybe I should have. There have been discussions (on these lists) for a fer years now and the consensus opinion was that if you upload gps tracks (and mine are all still

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-14 Thread John Henderson
On 14/05/11 16:35, Ben Kelley wrote: IMHO definitely put source=survey if it is. (e.g. from a gps track) It can be difficult to determine this later. E.g. I can see that there is a GPS track log nearby, but did the person use it? This brings up a point which I'd like clarification on. When I

[talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-14 Thread Nick Hocking
Ben Kelley wrote E.g. I can see that there is a GPS track log nearby, but did the person use it? Yes, that was exactly the arguement If there is no source tag but there is a public GPS trace uploaded to OSM, then the assumption is that it was used to plot the way and that the tag

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-14 Thread Ross
On 14/05/11 14:28, Nick Hocking wrote: Ross wrote Did you tag your ways with source=survey so that it would show them that you had actually surveyed it? No I didn't though maybe I should have. There have been discussions (on these lists) for a fer years now and the consensus opinion was

[talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-14 Thread Nick Hocking
Ross - fixed Liz O'Neill Street... Thanks for fixing that Ross, One tiny point though, the grassed over area is just the westbound section. The bit from the corner to where my tracks end could more accurately be tagged highway=residential access=no Also, could you fix my naming error for me

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-13 Thread Ross
On 11/05/11 20:00, Nick Hocking wrote: A nearmapper has decided that badly out-of-date nearmap imagery was more authorative than my GPS traces (taken last weekend) and has completed a road that is not there any longer. It has been completely grassed over so that cars can not travel along it, for

[talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-13 Thread Nick Hocking
Ross wrote Did you tag your ways with source=survey so that it would show them that you had actually surveyed it? No I didn't though maybe I should have. There have been discussions (on these lists) for a fer years now and the consensus opinion was that if you upload gps tracks (and mine are all

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-12 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: A nearmapper has decided that badly out-of-date nearmap imagery was more authorative than my GPS traces (taken last weekend) and has completed a road that is not there any longer. It has been completely grassed over so

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-12 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: That's before you consider the resolution, it's so high that railway lines and switching tracks are mapped so accurately people were suggesting to those that make train games they could use OSM data as the basis of

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-12 Thread John Smith
On 13 May 2011 15:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: That's before you consider the resolution, it's so high that railway lines and switching tracks are mapped so accurately people were suggesting to those

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-12 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:48 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2011 15:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: That's before you consider the resolution, it's so high that railway lines

[talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-11 Thread Nick Hocking
A nearmapper has decided that badly out-of-date nearmap imagery was more authorative than my GPS traces (taken last weekend) and has completed a road that is not there any longer. It has been completely grassed over so that cars can not travel along it, for some time to come, and barricades have

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap badly out of date

2011-05-11 Thread David Murn
In other news, someone somewhere did something, and someone somewhere should deal with it. Would you care to point out what the problems are, or heaven forbid fix them yourself? We've got this wonderful interface that anyone (even you) can use to change data in the database that people have

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap resolution in JOSM

2011-04-09 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Nathan Odgers n.p.odg...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I use JOSM (3966) on OSX (10.6.7) and the high-resolution Nearmap imagery over Sydney is very poor quality compared to what I get in Merkaartor. Nearmap in Merkaartor is

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap

2011-04-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 April 2011 15:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 12:57, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If the Australian issue is so important, as others have suggested why isnt OSMF seeking to make a rapid agreement with NearMap as was done with Bing? This really

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap

2011-04-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2011 06:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 12:57, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If the Australian issue is so important, as others have suggested why isnt OSMF seeking to make a rapid agreement with NearMap as was done with Bing? This really

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:19:39 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 06:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 12:57, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If the Australian issue is so important, as others have suggested why isnt

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 7 April 2011 12:57, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If the Australian issue is so important, as others have suggested why isnt OSMF seeking to make a rapid agreement with NearMap as was done with Bing? This really needs to be done. Is wonder if this is just due to a shortage of

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-12-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:49:07 +0800 Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: The nearmap.com twitter feed (or Facebook, if you prefer) is your friend... we announce flight starts, flight ends and publication of new surveys. http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.082167,147.302565z=21t=hnmd=20101207

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-12-19 Thread Ben Last
The nearmap.com twitter feed (or Facebook, if you prefer) is your friend... we announce flight starts, flight ends and publication of new surveys. http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.082167,147.302565z=21t=hnmd=20101207 Cheers Ben On 18 December 2010 08:49, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-12-19 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 10:49 +0800, Ben Last wrote: The nearmap.com twitter feed (or Facebook, if you prefer) is your friend... we announce flight starts, flight ends and publication of new surveys. It appears you missed the URL: http://twitter.com/NearMap This URL also works as an RSS feed.

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-12-19 Thread Ben Last
Deducing the URL was left as an exercise :) You might also like to know that we try and hashtag the updates with the areas that are affected by surveys and flights, if you don't want to have to read them all. b On 20 December 2010 11:11, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Mon,

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-10-23 Thread John Smith
Has any progress been made on this front at all? I noticed in the latest minutes[1] that the LWG has no plans to address the section(s) that Nearmap objected to, and previous minutes[2] didn't show any resolution either. [1] https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_87d3bmhxgc [2]

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 September 2010 23:46, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 08:38, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Sure.  Aren't there AU gov't sources that would be nice to have permission to use? You keep seeming trying to divert attention from the major issue, the

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 18:35, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Point 4 of the Contributor Terms provides a guaranteed mechanism for Attribution. http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread 80n
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.comwrote: On 15 September 2010 23:46, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 08:38, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Sure. Aren't there AU gov't sources that would be nice to have

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] NearMap On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:15:11 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: And how many years must we wait before they'll be concluded? It will take forever if you never start the discussion. ;-) That will vary by publisher. The permission from the Canadian government took a couple of

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:11:31 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Every time the community is asked, There are plain Strine expressions for this The community has not been asked at all so your statement is meadowdust. ___ Talk-au mailing

[talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Michael Hampson
Hi All, Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is there an issue with Potlatch 1.4? Thanks, Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Michael Hampson
Thanks Emilie, Regards, Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: On 15 September 2010 14:16, Michael Hampson mc.hamp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 September 2010 14:28, Michael Hampson mc.hamp...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is there an issue with Potlatch 1.4? Nearmap withdrew their support for the people using the new contributor terms. The OpenStreetMap foundation is

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Luke Woolley
Bloody Hell. They have even blocked the custom field. I have a lot of choice words to say right now but shall refrain until I calm down! All over a bloody licencing dispute (which I don't like getting involved in unless I have to, which that time has now come) On 15/09/2010, at 11:58 PM, Grant

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Simon Biber
On Wed, 15 September, 2010 11:28:29 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Just to clarify, we have not concluded discussions with NearMap and discussion is still positive. The removal of the NearMap option in Potlatch was prompted a few weeks by back, but was only actioned

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 September 2010 15:14, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Who was it prompted by? Did NearMap themselves request it? There was a specific question from a AU community member to NearMap if the option should be removed. They said yes. -- Third hand, I was not part of the discussion.

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 00:37, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I believe John Smith initially suggested it to NearMap. Ben Last at NearMap No, I posted the question publicly to the legal talk list, my concern wasn't just about Nearmap but any source that may be too easy to access by

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 00:37, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I believe John Smith initially suggested it to NearMap. Ben Last at NearMap No, I posted the question publicly to the legal talk list, my

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: Bloody Hell. They have even blocked the custom field. I have a lot of choice words to say right now but shall refrain until I calm down! All over a bloody licencing dispute (which I don't like getting involved in unless

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:59 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 03:48, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Legal argument aside.  Frankly it makes my head hurt.  If a vendor decides to stop allowing OSM use of their resources, we should say Thanks for what

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 04:02, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: That said, there is no answer right now for what will happen regarding NearMap imagery in the future. Currently, OSM users may not use NearMap imagery for deriving data for OSM. Only users that have agreed with the new

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 04:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: bad. This isn't a competition with a winner and loser. The fact is that NearMap don't want OSM users using their imagery right now. So we shouldn't. This isn't true, they don't want to allow their data to be submitted under

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:16:34 +1000 Michael Hampson mc.hamp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is there an issue with Potlatch 1.4? There are other editors, assuming that you have not agreed to the new Contributor Terms.

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 04:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: bad.  This isn't a competition with a winner and loser.  The fact is that NearMap don't want OSM users using their imagery right now.  So we

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 07:31, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I don't think that your recommendation is in the best interest of OpenStreetMap or OSM contributors. You left off 3, there is going to be a fork as cc-by-sa and any such contributions from Nearmap will be happily accepted. Also

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 07:31, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I don't think that your recommendation is in the best interest of OpenStreetMap or OSM contributors. Actually how can you or anyone else make this statement in good faith when most of the contributors have never been asked what

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 07:58, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Or did you mean CommonMap? http://commonmap.info Unlikely, since CommonMap is cc-by, not cc-by-sa... Or did you mean SharedMap? http://www.sharedmap.org At this stage this is run and used by a single person, perhaps this

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 07:31, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I don't think that your recommendation is in the best interest of OpenStreetMap or OSM contributors. Actually how can you or anyone else make this

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 07:58, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: You overlook the obvious, that discussion can lead to additional rights grants from publishers. And how many years must we wait before they'll be

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 08:11, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: This old saw again, JohnSmith? Every time the community is asked, they support progress in the form of ODbL rather than the inappropriate CC-By-SA. Here is the latest feedback for you. Yes and how many said they haven't even

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 September 2010 08:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It will take forever if you never start the discussion. ;-) I was under the impression the LWG was already talking to Nearmap, however I don't have a problem with the current license, so I don't see a point in wasting it to

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 08:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It will take forever if you never start the discussion.  ;-) I was under the impression the LWG was already talking to Nearmap, Sure. Aren't there

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread 80n
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:20 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 September 2010 08:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: It will take forever if you never start the discussion. ;-) I was

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Sam Vekemans
Some datasets are ok to use, what the CT fails to mention is the fact that the OSMF can made the decision on weather or not to accept a dataset. Specifically because the humble contributor cannot guarantee that they represent or have the exact 'direct permission' as it could have been just a

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Thread Ben Last
On 16 September 2010 02:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: NearMap have requested that their imagery not be available in Potlatch, and have changed their license on their web site to remove explicit permission for OpenStreetMap. That is their right and their decision. On Wed, Sep

[talk-au] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread Ben Last
Hi all As you may have noticed, if you follow the mailing lists, there's been a certain amount of discussion about using NearMap aerial imagery (which we call PhotoMaps) as a source for generating OSM data, in the light of the current Contributor Terms (CTs, as currently shown at

Re: [talk-au] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: OpenStreetMap Learned Discussions t...@openstreetmap.org; OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:09 AM Subject: [talk-au] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-18 Thread Peter Ross
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: That said, having had a look at the new coverage in the Hunter Valley, there is a huge amount of detail you can get from Nearmap that would be

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-18 Thread Ben Last
On 17 July 2010 13:02, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I've also been finding the opposite. It's almost impossible to follow a signposted walking track from Nearmap. Even when you have a fair idea where the track goes, there are all kinds of red herrings that look just as visible

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread Luke Woolley
No worries! The new coverage they have set out for Victoria including the Mornington Peninsula, Phillip Island, Ballarat and the Yarra Valley is great news for me! All they need to plan to fly now is Pakenham then i'll be happy! Oh wait, then the Latrobe Valley, then you all get the idea! On

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread Ben Kelley
While Nearmap for Tamworth and Armidale would be nice, surveyors have been hard at work in both. That said, having had a look at the new coverage in the Hunter Valley, there is a huge amount of detail you can get from Nearmap that would be practically impossible with surveying. - Ben. On 16

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread Ross Scanlon
On 16 July 2010 15:35, Babstar babsta...@gmail.com wrote: While we're on the requests, please an an extension from Mittagong west If we're on to requests :) How about some more of North Qld. I notice Mackay and Cairns are on the plan but what about areas in between, (Whitsunday's,

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 July 2010 16:29, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: While Nearmap for Tamworth and Armidale would be nice, surveyors have been hard at work in both. Aerial imagery can do things like landuse, not just roads, which is a lot harder to get or even see from ground level...

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread Ben Last
If you want to make requests, http://forum.Nearmap.com/ :) Cheers b On Friday, July 16, 2010, Babstar babsta...@gmail.com wrote: While we're on the requests, please an an extension from Mittagong west south west to cover Bowral, Moss Vale, Exeter Bundanoon as well as the Hume Highway.  

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 July 2010 20:31, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: If you want to make requests, http://forum.Nearmap.com/ :) I did some time ago :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: That said, having had a look at the new coverage in the Hunter Valley, there is a huge amount of detail you can get from Nearmap that would be practically impossible with surveying. I've also been finding the opposite.

[talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-15 Thread John Smith
Thanks to Lakeyboy for pointing out Nearmap planned coverage areas PDF: http://www.nearmap.com/assets/pdf/coverage/NearMap-PhotoMap-Coverage.pdf ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-15 Thread Ben Last
...which we're going to keep updated... Cheers b On 16 July 2010 10:08, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to Lakeyboy for pointing out Nearmap planned coverage areas PDF: http://www.nearmap.com/assets/pdf/coverage/NearMap-PhotoMap-Coverage.pdf

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-15 Thread Steve Bennett
I just wish the area between Ballarat and Bendigo extended a bit further west. It's a very interesting area of Victoria, full of little dirt tracks through the old gold digging area. Creswick is half covered, Clunes is off the map... But to be honest, no matter how much coverage there was, we'd

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-15 Thread Babstar
While we're on the requests, please an an extension from Mittagong west south west to cover Bowral, Moss Vale, Exeter Bundanoon as well as the Hume Highway. Population approximately 42,000 in this district and a significant number would be covered in this narrow sweep. -- Babstar

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-15 Thread Neal Schulz
I'd like a bit more.. Tasmania has NONE :( Neal On 16/07/10 2:48 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: I just wish the area between Ballarat and Bendigo extended a bit further west. It's a very interesting area of Victoria, full of little dirt tracks through the old gold digging area. Creswick is half

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap coverage plan

2010-07-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 July 2010 15:35, Babstar babsta...@gmail.com wrote: While we're on the requests, please an an extension from Mittagong west If we're on to requests :) I'd still like Tamworth, NSW the area has 55k+ people according to wikipedia, and Armidale, NSW isn't far away with another 20k+ people...

[talk-au] NearMap for Ipswich

2010-06-25 Thread Brendan Morley
Hi Ipswich mappers, NearMap finally have the imagery up for Ipswich ... and through to Gatton! Brendan ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Ben Last
Hi all I thought I'd bounce this topic off the talk-AU list before waking up the slumbering millions on talk :) Without giving too much away, I'm letting you know that NearMap are looking at/working on adding support for some basic OSM editing operations to our website. We're doing this to more

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 June 2010 16:09, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Without giving too much away, I'm letting you know that NearMap are looking at/working on adding support for some basic OSM editing operations to our website. We're doing this to more directly address some of the weaknesses of OSM; in

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Ben Last
On 8 June 2010 14:27, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know about the mapzen editor cloudmade produced? http://mapzen.cloudmade.com/ Yes, we do, and whilst it's an interesting piece of work, it's still too complex for general users (in our humble opinion!). It would also

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Liz
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Ben Last wrote: On 8 June 2010 14:27, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know about the mapzen editor cloudmade produced? http://mapzen.cloudmade.com/ Yes, we do, and whilst it's an interesting piece of work, it's still too complex for general users (in

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 17:13 +1000, Liz wrote: On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Ben Last wrote: Yes, we do, and whilst it's an interesting piece of work, it's still too complex for general users (in our humble opinion!)... we had a conversation on one of these lists about what would be wanted in a

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
we had a conversation on one of these lists about what would be wanted in a bog_basic editor once and i think it came down to name and classify a street and add a single point to be a POI, name and classify it. Personally I would not like to see much more than this and I don't think being

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Neil Penman
...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Tuesday, 8 June, 2010, 6:40 PM we had a conversation on one of these lists about what would be wanted in a bog_basic editor once and i think it came down to name and classify a street

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Ben Last
On 9 June 2010 06:27, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: In particular, how will you ensure that contributors via Nearmap agree to the OSM/OSMF contributing terms/license? Good point. We'll need to include this in TCs that a user must accept before editing. Since we're going to keep

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: the NearMap site).  We do have our own registration system, and we're going to require that a user be registered with us before we allow them to make edits. Because of the above, edits applied to the OSM data would be

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Ben Last
On 9 June 2010 09:13, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect this approach will prove controversial. Is there really no way you can integrate user registrations? There's no convenient way. We could bounce a user off to the OSM site to register, but this is complex because they

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: There's no convenient way.  We could bounce a user off to the OSM site to register, but this is complex because they then need to confirm an email, and after the signup there (appears to be) no convenient way to bring them

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, could have been clearer. By integration, I meant asking the OSM developers to make some changes to make it easier, too. But yeah, if not possible, not possible. I have and didn't get much of a useful reply... It would be so

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Some parts of the US are pretty crazy too. My favourite though is a scheme I saw in Dallas (and I'm sure exists elsewhere) where the numbers are independent of the street, and uniquely identify a house within some region. So a tiny

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread Voon-Li Chung
1. It's too hard to get Nearmap users to go through the signup process for OSM For a given value of hard :)  Yes, right now we think it's too complex and there's also no easy way for us to tell if they're already signed up/logged into OSM. Yep. I guess it would involve asking them to sign up

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-03 Thread Luke Woolley
I am pretty sure they have not flown Ballarat yet. I haven't seen any forum posts or twitter updates about Ballarat, but it would be nice since the Bacchus Marsh area imagery (which unfortunately is quite cloudy in places) misses Ballarat by about 10km. I've been keeping track and updating the

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 May 2010 22:46, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure they have not flown Ballarat yet. I haven't seen any forum I could have sworn I saw them announce Ballarat on their forum, but I can't find it so I'll remove it... posts or twitter updates about Ballarat, but it

[talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
I was curious how much actual coverage Nearmap currently has, and since we have boundaries for Nearmap coverage I thought I'd make use of them. I rounded the area to 2dp, but here is the result... Sydney = 9054.79km^2 Carnarvon = 2352.25km^2 Perth = 32454.66km^2 Rottness = 34.49km^2 Adelaide =

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-02 Thread Peter Ross
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:03 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I was curious how much actual coverage Nearmap currently has, and since we have boundaries for Nearmap coverage I thought I'd make use of them. I rounded the area to 2dp, but here is the result... Sydney = 9054.79km^2

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 May 2010 08:23, Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: Which is 1.5% of australias total surface area (7 692 024km^2) with victoria leading the way with 20% of the state having aerial coverage (237,629km^2). I think it's somewhat less as the melbourne coverage extends into NSW, but even

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Coverage

2010-05-02 Thread Peter Ross
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:49 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 May 2010 08:23, Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: Which is 1.5% of australias total surface area (7 692 024km^2) with victoria leading the way with 20% of the state having aerial coverage (237,629km^2).  I

[talk-au] Nearmap imagery north of Melbourne

2010-04-29 Thread John Smith
More imagery north of Melbourne is coming online. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/56117394 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Nearmap CEO in ABC radio interview

2010-04-27 Thread John Smith
From Nearmap's forum http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=334 Stuart, our founder and CEO, was recently interviewed by Desley Blanch for ABC's Innovations radio show. An MP3 of the show is here: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/ra/podcast/innovations/innovations_20100426.mp3 ...and a

Re: [talk-au] NearMap now have OSM opaque maps as well as overlays

2010-04-07 Thread Ben Last
I'm pretty sure that's the one we used. On 7 April 2010 09:18, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: It doesn't look like the actual style files that the OSM site uses are available (or if they are, they're not easy

Re: [talk-au] NearMap now have OSM opaque maps as well as overlays

2010-04-06 Thread Ben Last
Actually, it's just the standard mapnik styles from the download as far as colours are concerned - we've not yet done any serious editing to it (except for hiding some overlays at some zoom levels). It doesn't look like the actual style files that the OSM site uses are available (or if they are,

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