I forget who mentioned about some 15m error that was fixed in the
property boundary data, but I actually found another error, is there
some where we should report these errors?
It looks like the road was realigned, the previous road was turned
into a car park and the property boundary for the
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/10/5 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com:
Just one comment. If it was me working on it, i would hesitate on adding
in
roads where they are 'estimated' because it is not known as a fact. Once
all the
2009/10/5 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com:
That's true. .. so someone who's kind-of familiar with the area (been down
the road at least once in their life?
Some people have better memories than others.
Perhaps maybe the suggestion is to hold off on that planning aspect, or
2009/10/5 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com:
Just one comment. If it was me working on it, i would hesitate on adding in
roads where they are 'estimated' because it is not known as a fact. Once
all the property boundaries are in there, i think that will cause a natural
'growth' in
I stuffed up the Longitude of the central meridian, it should be 149.00929483.
That being said, I tested 5 different co-ords and some seem to be out/hard to
recognise bbq's.
I downloaded 7 parameter transformation tool(works with linux/wine) from
On 03/10/2009, at 5:21 PM, Evan Sebire wrote:
If someone knows a bbq that is clearly visible on the satellite
imagery that
would help to verify the procedure.
There are two at
http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17ll=-35.293,149.093layer=BTT
I think I did those from waypoints, but
2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
On 03/10/2009, at 5:21 PM, Evan Sebire wrote:
If someone knows a bbq that is clearly visible on the satellite
imagery that
would help to verify the procedure.
There are two at
http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17ll=-35.293,149.093layer=BTT
I
Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out
where streets are, although some streets have been consumed and the
boundary information doesn't reflect this.
Does anyone know how roads drawn from this information should be tagged?
I just took another look at the transformation tool
http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0016/5209/geomin32.exe
and the spreadsheet is giving out the AMG lat long not MGA.
I entered the lat long that the tool states is MGA into g'sat imagery and
presto, mark straight on top of bbq!
2009/10/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org:
I just took another look at the transformation tool
http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/file/0016/5209/geomin32.exe
and the spreadsheet is giving out the AMG lat long not MGA.
I entered the lat long that the tool states is MGA into g'sat imagery
The problem is there is not one spreadsheet. The downloadable tool is rough
enough for these types of POI. High accuracy between AMG to MGA only can be
done with tools that use grid transformation (a bit table of values, NT file),
these are also available as a free download, but would then
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote:
2009/10/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org:
The problem is there is not one spreadsheet. The downloadable tool is
rough enough for these types of POI. High accuracy between AMG to MGA
only can be done with tools that use grid transformation (a bit table of
2009/10/3 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org:
The solution exists if we want to use a free download tool. I do have source
code for performing grid transformation from NTv2 files, but I think the
effort creating an accurate tool for bbq's isn't justified.
The tool from act gov will be within a
2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
On 02/10/2009, at 9:01 PM, John Smith wrote:
Might have to be a multipolygon, I just can't get it to render at all
if I tell mapnik the tiles are dirty.
I've just changed it over to be a multipolygon relation - if that
works, I'll go file a bug
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out
where streets are, although some streets have been consumed and the
boundary information doesn't reflect this.
Does anyone know how roads drawn from this information should be
John,
How do you mean consumed?
Is this related to the comment you made on my diary entry at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/morb_au/diary/8140 ?
I've also added my own tagging examples at a new page at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data.australia.gov.au/Queensland if that
helps.
2009/10/3 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
How do you mean consumed?
Some land owners have taken over the land when it's probably still
crown land. For example:
http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8ll=-26.158115,152.64636spn=0.007184,0.013937z=17
Horswoord Road mostly doesn't exist, yet the
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:29:13 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out
where streets are, although some streets have been consumed and the
boundary information doesn't
2009/10/3 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:29:13 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
Using the Qld govt boundaries information it's possible to work out
where streets are, although some streets have been
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:46:22 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/3 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:29:13 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
Using the Qld govt boundaries
I intended to fix it as soon as I could work out what tags were
needed, but I thought I'd give an example of what is possible thanks
to the new data becoming available.
Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this.
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Cheers
Ross
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2009/10/3 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com:
I intended to fix it as soon as I could work out what tags were
needed, but I thought I'd give an example of what is possible thanks
to the new data becoming available.
Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this.
Brendan has set up a WMS
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:25:44 +1000, John Smith wrote:
2009/10/3 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
How do you mean consumed?
Some land owners have taken over the land when it's probably still
crown land. For example:
Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this.
Brendan has set up a WMS server of property boundaries, and things
that aren't boudnaries show up as black areas and it's possible to
guess which is roads depending how straight the gaps are between
boudnaries.
Here's a before shot of
2009/10/4 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au:
That's one of the reasons why I'm tagging DCDB-derived roads with note=DCDB
indicates a right of way in this location. Needs a field survey to confirm
highway type and actual alignment. Sometimes the road formation does not
exist!
That was just
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 00:15:21 +1000, Ross Scanlon wrote:
Ok, so now a quick description of how you did this.
Brendan has set up a WMS server of property boundaries, and things
that aren't boudnaries show up as black areas and it's possible to
guess which is roads depending how straight the
On 02/10/2009, at 8:33 PM, James Livingston wrote:
I converted the World Heritage Area file on my machine, and just
uploaded one of the areas[1]. Does it look okay to people? If so,
I'll go ahead and do the rest of the WHA data.
Right, so it turns out that my randomly chosen one was a
2009/10/4 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
Right, so it turns out that my randomly chosen one was a complete
fluke - in most cases the World Heritage Areas and the National Parks
don't have the same boundaries. There is however a proposed tagging
scheme for UNESCO World Heritage areas/places,
2009/10/4 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
On 04/10/2009, at 12:33 PM, John Smith wrote:
whc:criteria:7=yes
whc:criteria:8=yes
whc:criteria:9=yes
Given there's a finite set of criteria (ten of them) that sounds good.
It may be extended in future, which might be problematic for embedding
On 30/09/2009, at 10:25 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote:
I really like to see the vegetation cover and the forest!! What are
they? Shapefiles? If they are shapefiles, they come with their own
projection files and therefore can be easily converted into another
coordinate using ST_Transform inside
2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
areas[1]. Does it look okay to people? If so, I'll go ahead and do the rest
of the WHA data.
With the current tags you've used it probably won't render, since it's
a national park you're going to get into the whole is it natural=wood,
or landuse=forest
On 02/10/2009, at 8:42 PM, John Smith wrote:
2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
With the current tags you've used it probably won't render, since it's
a national park you're going to get into the whole is it natural=wood,
or landuse=forest type debate, I think both get rendered as a
2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com
On 30/09/2009, at 10:25 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote:
I really like to see the vegetation cover and the forest!! What are they?
Shapefiles? If they are shapefiles, they come with their own projection
files and therefore can be easily converted into
2009/10/2 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com:
Regarding tags, when we worked on the Corine import in France, we set up a
page on the wiki where people were making their suggestions. We then had a
small debate on what was better and then we voted.
When it was too tight on terms of vote, it
On 02/10/2009, at 8:50 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote:
Regarding tags, when we worked on the Corine import in France, we
set up a page on the wiki where people were making their
suggestions. We then had a small debate on what was better and then
we voted.
Indeed, hence my I've uploaded a
On 02/10/2009, at 9:01 PM, John Smith wrote:
Might have to be a multipolygon, I just can't get it to render at all
if I tell mapnik the tiles are dirty.
I've just changed it over to be a multipolygon relation - if that
works, I'll go file a bug against the renderer.
A forest in the UK
2009/10/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
On 02/10/2009, at 9:01 PM, John Smith wrote:
Might have to be a multipolygon, I just can't get it to render at all
if I tell mapnik the tiles are dirty.
I've just changed it over to be a multipolygon relation - if that
works, I'll go file a bug
2009/9/30 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org:
I adjusted the redfearn ( http://www.icsm.gov.au/gda/gdatm/redfearn.xls )
spreadsheet and the values I got were 149D 08' 10''.13261 and -35D
18'57''.42808
If someone wants to convert the ACT data it may be easiest to use the
spreadsheet and then the
Hi All,
Just to let you all know, i signed up with your mailing list, and am happy
to help you all out. :-)
FYI I'm working with shp-to-osm.jar (java program) that ian dees made, and
am not using shp2osm (python) that others made ('cause i dont speak python
nor ibuntu language).
So I can be of
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know what ended up getting released yesterday, if it's
available yet, or when it's likely to be?
http://data.australia.gov.au/catalogue/geography
CC-BY-A licenced as promised.
the next few nights and then give you the link. My test run took about 2-3
hours but I suspect the CC-BY version is veery similar.
Brendan
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From: John Smith deltafoxtrot
It looks like there is some datasets that would be useful
* QLD property boundaries
* world heritage listing areas (tourism POIs?)
* BBQ, public toilet and park/playground locations in the ACT
* school locations in the ACT might be useful for landuse/POIs and/or
building outlines?
* drainage
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like there is some datasets that would be useful
* BBQ, public toilet and park/playground locations in the ACT
These BBQ and toilet data collections have coordinates in a
format/projection I'm not familar with
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
It looks like there is some datasets that would be useful
* BBQ, public toilet and park/playground locations in the ACT
These BBQ and toilet data collections have
PM
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government
2.0 Taskforce website
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like there is some datasets that would be useful
* BBQ, public toilet and park/playground locations
Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
For example, Telopea Park has these two that I think I can remember:
Toilet Block: X=211,550,Y=600,191 (-35.31415853430738,149.13748919963837)
AMG (lat/lon?)
BBQ: X=211,576, Y=600,137 (-35.314867659800925,149.13786470890045)
--
Terry Collins {:-)}
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:13 PM, terryc ter...@woa.com.au wrote:
Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
For example, Telopea Park has these two that I think I can remember:
Toilet Block: X=211,550,Y=600,191 (-35.31415853430738,149.13748919963837)
AMG (lat/lon?)
BBQ: X=211,576, Y=600,137
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Liz wrote:
I'll forward this to adrian and he will be able to fill us in on the
coordinate system
of course, then he'll want the $1K prize because he's a student
he says he needs more points to unravel the puzzle
two points aren't enough
-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government
2.0 Taskforce website
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:13 PM, terryc ter...@woa.com.au wrote:
Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
For example, Telopea Park has these two that I think I can remember:
Toilet Block: X=211,550,Y=600,191
2009/9/30 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
It looks like there is some datasets that would be useful
* QLD property boundaries
* world heritage listing areas (tourism POIs?)
* BBQ, public toilet and park/playground locations in the ACT
* school locations in the ACT might be useful for
@openstreetmap.org
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2009/9/30 Dan O'Hara detect...@yahoo.com.au:
I think the reason you didn't get a match is because the grid reference is
in yards
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Dan O#39;Hara detect...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Here is some info on the ACT grid
The ACT grid is a Transverse Mercator map projection that uses the
longitude of Mt Stromlo Trig Station as its central meridian. It is based
on the Australian Geodetic Datum 66
2009/9/30 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com:
= -35.31595, 149.1363 and my guess was -35.31415,149.1374
There is about a 200m difference, depending where you are in
Australia, between ADG66 and DGA94/WGS84, which at first look is about
how far out your first guess was...
2009/9/30 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com:
http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/tools_resources/maps_land_survey/surveying_data/surveyors_information/coordinate_system
A quick google I also found this:
Mt Stromlo Trig, ACT
in Australian Trig Points
S 35° 18.968 E 149° 00.632
55H E 682768 N
I adjusted the redfearn ( http://www.icsm.gov.au/gda/gdatm/redfearn.xls )
spreadsheet and the values I got were 149D 08' 10''.13261 and -35D
18'57''.42808
If someone wants to convert the ACT data it may be easiest to use the
spreadsheet and then the data can be automatically feed into the
2009/9/30 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com
2009/9/30 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
2009/9/30 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com:
Of course, I will tell you! If I didn't want to share the knowledge, I
wouldn't have posted here :)
Except I just looked and they're egri
Quoting John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
Does anyone know what ended up getting released yesterday, if it's
available yet, or when it's likely to be?
I concur it does not appear to have made an appearance on the front page of
gov2.net.au yet.
I'll have to ask around but it might take a
2009/9/30 morb@beagle.com.au:
I'll have to ask around but it might take a day or two. After all, for me OSM
is meant to be a fun hobby and chasing this up seems like work /-:
Sorry if I implied I was asking someone to look into this, I just
wondered if anyone knew off the top of their
Does anyone know what ended up getting released yesterday, if it's
available yet, or when it's likely to be?
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Hello Aussie OSMers,
Those recently at the last OSM South Brisbane meetup may remember I was going
to get onto our Department of Natural Resources people
to see when they were going to release their datasets under a GILF (CC-BY
compatible) licence.
It turns out there's been a
Hi.
On the issue of land parcels, does OSM support this (i.e. with useful
information to do things like give the parcel an address)? I know you can
relate a point to a street, and attach the street number to the point.
Can you attach a number to an area, and relate it to a street? Possibly yes,
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