Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread 80n
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:49 AM, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On 24/04/11 19:54, John Smith wrote: Once upon a time it used to be almost a race to map out new areas from Nearmap coverage, now whole areas of coverage go untouched for months or longer... Even from bing there is not

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 April 2011 09:41, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: fosm.org looks pretty good with potlatch2. Just need a tile server or to setup my own again - how does one get a big fat planet.osm?

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:11:29 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: FOSM.org is hosted on a virtual machine of hypercube provided for XAPI. Without any explanation I was banned from the FOSM when I stated this. Regards Grant OSM Sysadmin team. Banned from the

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 11:33 +0100, 80n wrote: There's no tileserver yet, that's a priority, there's no gratification if things are rendered. Is it possible to setup some sort of tiles@home-like system for fosm? That could be a way to reduce your load. David

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread 4x4falcon
On 24/04/11 19:54, John Smith wrote: Once upon a time it used to be almost a race to map out new areas from Nearmap coverage, now whole areas of coverage go untouched for months or longer... Even from bing there is not much activity. What was once a source of pride in the community can now

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Leon Kernan
I've taken the opposite approach, I'm still adding to osm from nearmap, gps and bing as those edits will go into fosm.org as fosm is doing minutely updates from osm. When we are locked out completely and all my edits are removed from osm they will still be in fosm without duplication

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread 4x4falcon
On 25/04/11 16:07, Leon Kernan wrote: I've taken the opposite approach, I'm still adding to osm from nearmap, gps and bing as those edits will go into fosm.org as fosm is doing minutely updates from osm. When we are locked out completely and all my edits are removed from osm they will

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.comwrote: fosm.org looks pretty good with potlatch2. Just need a tile server or to setup my own again - how does one get a big fat planet.osm? I think you can use toolserver from wikipedia or even the *hypercube*.

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:27 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 April 2011 22:18, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: As was said on talk, it seems pretty absurd to be moving an open

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Leon Kernan
If you are running linux then it's easy. Download a planet file from where ever. Extract the au data using osmosis. Use the au data as you normally would. Just out of curiosity what are you using the data in. At the moment i dump OSM data into a sqlite database with the spatialite

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Franc Carter
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: If you are running linux then it's easy. Download a planet file from where ever. Extract the au data using osmosis. Use the au data as you normally would. Just out of curiosity what are you using the data in. At the

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Leon Kernan
Neat - any links/info on what you are using for navigation ? I've been developing my apps in Visual Basic 2010 and running on Windows 7 in the car. The routing is provided by the spatialite addon to sqlite. Basically i can do a single sql query with a start and end node and it will return a

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread Franc Carter
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: Neat - any links/info on what you are using for navigation ? I've been developing my apps in Visual Basic 2010 and running on Windows 7 in the car. I'm on Linux, but it spatialite should be fine on that The routing is

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-25 Thread John Smith
In the last few days people have posted numerous diary entries about being unaware about the up coming changes. I am only surprised about how poorly things have been communicated with mappers, the replies to the posts are typical responses that try to confuse the issue.

[talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread John Smith
Once upon a time it used to be almost a race to map out new areas from Nearmap coverage, now whole areas of coverage go untouched for months or longer... What was once a source of pride in the community can now only be described as a 'tragedy of the commons' now that the death knell is being

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:54 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Once upon a time it used to be almost a race to map out new areas from Nearmap coverage, now whole areas of coverage go untouched for months or longer... What was once a source of pride in the community can now only

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 April 2011 08:26, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Once fosm gets a tile server (even a third party one) I'll probably switch. In the meantime I thought osm edits were mirrored across to fosm (though the more fosm gets edited, there will be merge edits, which I'm not sure

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:18:41 +1000 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I hear that Kiwi OSM surveyors are having just as much trouble convincing OSM-F that their government too has done the due diligence on Creative Commons for geodata:

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:18:41 +1000 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I hear that Kiwi OSM surveyors are having just as much trouble convincing OSM-F that their government too has done the due

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread John Smith
Same thing in the UK with OS data, it becomes free but requires attribution and OSM-F turns round and says that's great and all, but we want it with no strings now. On 4/25/11, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net