Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: Yep - I will look in to that but from looking in to the code it looks hard(ish) as I don't see a generic approach for dealing with ways that are concatenated to form closed way. Navit would then have problems rendering

Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-26 Thread Markus_g
- From: Franc Carter [mailto:franc.car...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2011 7:59 PM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney Hi, I remember there was a discussion a while ago tagging of bays - which I didn;t pay much attention too

Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-26 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I remember there was a discussion a while ago tagging of bays - which I didn;t pay much attention too ;-( They now seem to be in a relation for each Bay, which is nice for defining the area of the bay. However

Re: [talk-au] navit and bays/coastline around Sydney

2011-04-26 Thread Franc Carter
[snip] I've been aiming to tag bays as areas rather than just a node in the centre. As a consequence my initial thought was to tag the area as natural=bay. Traditionally most renderers didn't render this as water. the OSM Mapnik style now does, but many others still don't. The problem was I

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-16 Thread Franc Carter
Some experimenting this morning indicates this is fixed in the version I run (svn 2453) cheers On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: navit files built form osm data don't show a road if there is a reuse of the admin boundary for the road and so navigation around

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-15 Thread Sam Couter
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if it's possible to duplicate the object to break it up into 2 objects instead of one, and strip appropriate tags from the respective objects. Yep, that's

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-15 Thread Sam Couter
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.9378lon=138.6228zoom=13layers=B000FTF http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.2954lon=138.9733zoom=12layers=B000FTF Using the latest SVN version of osm2navit, these two and the one near Robertson NSW seem to turn out

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-14 Thread Franc Carter
Has anyone got a permalink to an area with this issue, so that I've got something to test with thanks On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: navit files built form osm data don't show a road if there is a reuse of the admin boundary for the road and so navigation

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Franc Carter wrote: Has anyone got a permalink to an area with this issue, so that I've got something to test with thanks On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: navit files built form osm data don't show a road if there is a reuse of the

[talk-au] navit files

2009-10-13 Thread Liz
navit files built form osm data don't show a road if there is a reuse of the admin boundary for the road and so navigation around adelaide is going to be really interesting as a lot of main roads have just disappeared please guys don't reuse admin boundaries ( like ABS ) to replace perfectly

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/13 Liz ed...@billiau.net: navit files built form osm data don't show a road if there is a reuse of the admin boundary for the road and so navigation around adelaide is going to be really interesting as a lot of main roads have just disappeared please guys don't reuse admin

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/13 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote: This is really a bug in their software, specifically the osm2navit binary, it would be better to file a bug and get them to fix the issue rather than trying to work around their bugs. Have you filed a bug

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-13 Thread Franc Carter
I've been looking over the navit code and have made some minor tweaks to suite me. My first guess is that the issue might be able to be worked around by changing the order that osm2navit looks at properties - e.g making ti look at decide these are roads instead of boundaries. Of course this will

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-13 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty sure I had the same issue when I tried to report their routing engine was screwy too. The idlers and lurkers will read the backlog when they return. Conversations can go very slowly this way, but communication is possible. Bug tracker:

Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-13 Thread John Smith
2009/10/13 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com: I've been looking over the navit code and have made some minor tweaks to suite me. My first guess is that the issue might be able to be worked around by changing the order that osm2navit looks at properties - e.g making ti look at decide these

[talk-au] Navit

2009-09-27 Thread edodd
this might just be a silly / basic question how does one tell Navit to allow one to drive on the motorway? I double checked, its set to car, not to horse cycle or pedestrian, and it won't send me along a motorway or is this a problem with au data?? Liz who luckily knew the way because it

Re: [talk-au] Navit

2009-09-27 Thread Franc Carter
Interesting, It puts me on motorways all the time (sometimes it would be nice to have more choice). Have you checked the oneways etc. Have you got a permalink to a problematic road cheers On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:26 PM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: this might just be a silly / basic question

Re: [talk-au] Navit

2009-09-27 Thread edodd
Interesting, It puts me on motorways all the time (sometimes it would be nice to have more choice). Have you checked the oneways etc. Have you got a permalink to a problematic road cheers 150km of Hume Highway and a few km in wollongong same thing motorway sends me to go down first exit

Re: [talk-au] Navit

2009-09-27 Thread edodd
I tried a few random points on the Hume and on the way down to wollongong and 'it works for me' ;-( I'm using a recentish svn version and one of John's recentish Australia.bin files cheers i've got a very recent (yesterday) bin file from John, but I'll try the upgrade from svn I'm not

Re: [talk-au] Navit

2009-09-27 Thread edodd
I tried a few random points on the Hume and on the way down to wollongong and 'it works for me' ;-( I'm using a recentish svn version and one of John's recentish Australia.bin files cheers i've got a very recent (yesterday) bin file from John, but I'll try the upgrade from svn I'm

[talk-au] Navit Update

2009-08-30 Thread John Smith
I seem to have overlooked the update script since rebuilding the server, I've manually run this and a new navit file is now available: http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/Australia-20090831.navit.bin I've now setup a cronjob to do this automatically after lunch on Sundays.

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-07 Thread b . schulz . 10
Does the ABS have other boundaries which we can use for this? For example Sydney currently would just refer to the Sydney LGA, rather than that area which people would call Greater Sydney. Basically, do they publish boundaries such as greater sydney the newcastle region etc? If they don't

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I'm just trying to brainstorm a way of achieving what you're describing while still conforming to strict boundary sources as opposed to drawing a boundary around a town by hand. As far as I'm aware this is the

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-07 Thread Ben Kelley
I think the latter. - Ben. -Original Message- From: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au Sent: 07 August 2009 13:33 To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] navit I wonder, how hard would it be to write a script which looked at the ABS boundaries and placed an is_in= tag on every way

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Nothing special, just followed the directions on this wiki page: http://www.rigacci.org/wiki/doku.php/doc/appunti/hardware/eeepc_navit As a result, most of the towns and suburbs in Australia can't be searched for due to a lack of is_in tags. My patch

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: As a result, most of the towns and suburbs in Australia can't be searched for due to a lack of is_in tags. My patch for osm2navit (attached) is a bit heavy-handed but trivial. If you've got a build environment set up for navit, give

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
I just ran the new osm2navit over a data file a couple of days old and it went from 40M to 50M as a result of the extra is_in data. http://maps.bigtincan.com/data/Australia-20090804.navit.bin ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: I wonder, how hard would it be to write a script which looked at the ABS boundaries and placed an is_in= tag on every way/node/whatever which is completely within the multipolygon relation? You don't need the is_in

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-06 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: That one seems to work much better. It's a bit of a hack but it would be much better if navit pulled the is_in information from admin boundaries, there is a boundary for most countries and things within Australia.

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 28/7/09, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent thanks - I'll be interested in the Aussie file It's too much of a hassle to do daily files, but I'm setting up scripts to run after lunchtime on Sundays at present, the Aussie file is up, and the NZ one is still

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-08-01 Thread Franc Carter
Thanks, weekly is very useful anyway. I've just returned from a mapping trip, that used your navit map on my car computer - it was very useful for finding missed streets cheers On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 28/7/09, Franc Carter

Re: [talk-au] navit

2009-07-29 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Mark Hetherington mark-os...@hethos.org wrote: I'm very interested in the Australia image. I'm curious how it's being processed though, when I did the processing myself I found searching in navit did not work. My investigations to this point indicated I needed a patched

[talk-au] navit

2009-07-28 Thread John Smith
For those that are interested, I'll be building a daily or weekly navit file, I ran it over aussie data only and the file comes out to about 41M, and if there is any interest I could keep building a NZ only file and it'll be about 4M. http://maps.bigtincan.com/data/Australia-20090728.navit.bin