Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
Just an FYI I've made some changes to the script I wrote to generate a .osm file from the TDX GTFS stops.txt file. Hot off the press at http://tianjara.net/data/tdx.nsw.gov.au/non-cc-license/ I'm NOT talking about importing, I'm simply posting this update because it may be useful as a

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 22/01/13 12:18, Michael Gratton wrote: Has there been any discussion about the Transport NSW TDX program https://tdx.131500.com.au/? I note they make available a GTFS file which should include the lat/long of all stops and stations, which would be nice to have in OSM. Their licence looks

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-02-20 Thread Michael Gratton
On 20/02/13 22:24, Andrew Harvey wrote: Hmm... seems like they changed from CC-BY back to a custom license? Yeah, there's some onerous clauses for attribution and re-distribution and what-not. Pity. I notice you have a copy under the CC-BY licence, I wonder if that would that be suitable for

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Michael Gratton
Hey Ian, On 22/01/13 14:08, Ian Sergeant wrote: Andrew made mention of it, and did some experimentation when it was first available.. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2012-September/009369.html Didn't provoke much discussion though, probably because of

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 22 January 2013 23:17, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: While stop/station locations infrequently change, routes do seem to come and go more frequently. It wouldn't be too hard for someone to run a process on a server somewhere to keep tabs on changes in the feed and update the map as

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Michael Gratton
On 23/01/13 08:43, Ian Sergeant wrote: It raises the age old question, if we can't edit it, why put it in OSM? If each set of data is intended to overwrite the last, what do we do when people change it? Oh, I thought OSM was aiming for an objectively correct map via user contributions, is

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 23 January 2013 09:31, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: There's no reason why using feeds such as the TDX is incompatible with individual user editing. From first-hand experience, even the PT agencies get their data wrong at times, and so the legion-with-smartphones out there is still

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-22 Thread Michael Gratton
On 23/01/13 09:48, Ian Sergeant wrote: But the TDX data is updated very regularly, so if I fix a bus stop today, how do you know whether you should overwrite that with the next revision of TDX data tomorrow? Not really. They may regenerate the feed frequently, but the data rarely changes

[talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-21 Thread Michael Gratton
Hey all, Has there been any discussion about the Transport NSW TDX program https://tdx.131500.com.au/? I note they make available a GTFS file which should include the lat/long of all stops and stations, which would be nice to have in OSM. Their licence looks rather restrictive however

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-01-21 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi Michael, Andrew made mention of it, and did some experimentation when it was first available.. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2012-September/009369.html Didn't provoke much discussion though, probably because of licence/volatility issues. Ian. On 22 January 2013 12:18,