Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-16 Thread SteveC
So those guys put out a legal statement and an employee even gave you his interpretation on this list, which you can cite in court if you want. I think you're pretty solid and it feels like people are just looking for problems no matter what is done or said. :-( Steve stevecoast.com On Jun

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
This reads like you disagree with taxation or death. I do too, but there's not much I can do about it. The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at and now it's down to people holding out because of a comma in the wrong place or a moral objection to various aspects of intellectual

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 8 July 2011 13:26, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at From what I've read on ML posts, and from what was reported about the last SotM meeting (I wasn't there), the vast majority of people don't care and would be happy

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
What you say mike is mostly reasonable apart from the control bit. It's a democratically elected nonprofit, so it's hard to cast that as a dictatorship. Steve stevecoast.com On Jul 7, 2011, at 20:47, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Chris

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
Actually, the license process has been known about for a long, long time so it's not this new turnaround you cast it as. In addition, everyone else (bing, ordnance survey...) has worked with us very reasonably. In fact it's hard to say near map have been unreasonable, just that they were not

Re: [talk-au] ATTN Steve Coast st...@asklater.com RE Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
Don't know how I can reply to someone who explicitly declares they don't want to change their mind or debate. In amongst the vitriol is perhaps a nugget that's worth responding to, this idea that somehow everyone on talk-au is 80n's puppet, is of course absurd. Unless you prove this isn't just

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:14, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: It's been pointed out that I'm not replying to hundreds of messages from John Smith, Anthony and friends. I don't see them as they're automatically deleted. I find life is better without

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
Sam Underlaying your attacks is the notion that I dismiss people who disagree with me, or that I can't understand different points of view. I find that strange given my rational responses to several disagreements on this list and outlaying where I feel misunderstandings have come from. I have

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:57, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: We've gone to insanely long lengths to make that the case, including getting clarifications from Ordnance Survey, Nearmap and many others. As far as I'm aware there are no remaining issues as

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:10, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Sam Underlaying your attacks is the notion that I dismiss people who disagree with me, or that I can't understand different points of view. I find that strange given my rational responses

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:11, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: As it happens however, my view that John smith and others are trolls is widely held. And unless you have anything to discuss other than you believing what I write to be bullshit I'm afraid you