Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-19 Thread Marc Gemis
I sincerely hope that the import is done properly, while keeping the existing tagging. I know this is the intention of the people behind the import, and can only hope that the participants will honor this methodology. I just noticed that a mapper has been removing old hand drawn buildings with

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread joost schouppe
> I'm pimarily involved to try and make sure the unevitable import is done > properly. > > Anyway, in my opinion procedures, limited access, checks and training can > reduce the risk of something going terribly wrong. Will that prevent all > possible mistakes, no, but not thinking about how to do

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > You do not have this problem when you have to draw each house > yourself, (although in the end you might be just drawing squares > instead of detailed houses.) > I completely agree with you, I'm not even sure if we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Marc Gemis
It's just pretty tempting to start increasing the amount of data one uploads and to stop verifying data thoroughly, especially if you haven't found problems for awhile. This has nothing to do with procedures, tools, etc. You do not have this problem when you have to draw each house yourself,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jo wrote: > Maybe we should also foresee procedures for cases where it's obvious > people take the data and just 'run with it'? If needed we shouldn't > hesitate to revert changesets. Who's going to follow up on that though? > reverts should

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jo wrote: > About landuse that attaches to other landuse or buildings. JOSM has a tool > to nicely stitch those together. It's in the contourmerge plugin. I used that a lot. Very nice plugin. ___

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Jo
It wouldn't make sense for anybody to put a deadline on it. It's important to communicate this to the 'integrators' though, that's the point I was trying to make. I definitely didn't stress on it enough, when I prepared the data for UrbIS. Maybe we should also foresee procedures for cases where

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Jo
I think it's important to stress (several times across the documentation) that there is no rush. If it takes 10 years to do it right, so be it. It's not a problem that the data isn't in there by next year. What we should aim for is people who survey and who then use the data as a complement to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-15 Thread Glenn Plas
On 15-12-16 05:44, Marc Gemis wrote: > I'm really looking forward to read the procedure on how you guys came up. > You might have been lucky that I couldn't make it , now you only have > to ignore my annoying mails :-) No, not at all. The church-issue was brought up without your help :) > I

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-14 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm really looking forward to read the procedure on how you guys came up. You might have been lucky that I couldn't make it , now you only have to ignore my annoying mails :-) I fail to see how documentation will prevent any participant from just dumping the data from GRB into OSM without any

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-14 Thread Glenn Plas
On 14-12-16 20:55, Marc Gemis wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:49 AM, joost schouppe > wrote: >> Expect between 10 and 20 users for the import tool. I think we can handle a >> little ugliness. >> So something "not too bad" will do :) >> >> That said, if it all goes as

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-14 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:49 AM, joost schouppe wrote: > Expect between 10 and 20 users for the import tool. I think we can handle a > little ugliness. > So something "not too bad" will do :) > > That said, if it all goes as planned, we will be doing a "model import". So

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-14 Thread joost schouppe
The blog post is ready for translation: https://hackpad.com/Hackday-b5rCQLrvmXC Especially on the French version we could use some help! ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread joost schouppe
> I'm not good at art stuff and I'm definitely not a designer but I'm sure we can manage to do something good (or not too bad) anyway. > Any designer available in OpenStreetMap crew ? Expect between 10 and 20 users for the import tool. I think we can handle a little ugliness. So something "not

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Jonathan Beliën
data when you are not sure, it's an excellent decision in the > context and timing of this project. > > > > > > Glenn > > > >> > >> > >> > >> Seppe > >> > >> > >> > >> *Van:*Ben Abelshausen [mailto:ben.abelshau

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Glenn Plas
t; > Jonathan Beliën > > -Message d'origine- > De : Glenn Plas [mailto:gl...@byte-consult.be] > Envoyé : mardi 13 décembre 2016 16:44 > À : OpenStreetMap Belgium > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th > > On 13-12-16 14:18, Santens Seppe wrote: &g

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Jonathan Beliën
: Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th On 13-12-16 14:18, Santens Seppe wrote: > Looking forward to it! > > I had a quick look at the documentation and tried the tools, but I > don’t feel confident enough to have a go at it. A short training would be > nice. The tool will

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Glenn Plas
t and timing of this project. Glenn > > > > Seppe > > > > *Van:*Ben Abelshausen [mailto:ben.abelshau...@gmail.com] > *Verzonden:* dinsdag 13 december 2016 14:10 > *Aan:*OpenStreetMap Belgium > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread joost schouppe
We're not quite there yet, Seppe. There will definitely be training sessions once we have a go from the imports mailing list. If you can't wait for the blog post, here's the pad we used for live reporting: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/grbhackaton ___

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Santens Seppe
Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th We are working on a blogpost... :-) Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com<mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote: Any chance w

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Ben Abelshausen
We are working on a blogpost... :-) Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Any chance we see a list of accomplishments somewhere ? > > regards > > m > > ___

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-13 Thread Marc Gemis
Any chance we see a list of accomplishments somewhere ? regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-07 Thread joost schouppe
So thanking people personally is always a bad idea, because you always forget someone (especially if you're a half-brain like me). I forgot to mention Dries Van Ransbeeck, the new Pieter-Jan at the Open Knowledge Foundation, who went out of his way to try and help us find a location! Thanks, and

Re: [OSM-talk-be] GRB hackday december 11th

2016-12-06 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 06 December 2016 17:21:24 joost schouppe wrote: > The only downside is that the nearby trainstation of Bordet doesn't have > trains in the weekend. So the most convenient way to get there, might > actually be to take a Villo. That's actually quite simple, you can do it > with a regular