Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
John Whelan says: > Thoughts? There are obviously "deep thoughts" going on regarding how OSM can document and provide better geo data, routing and maps for Canadian cyclists: my hat is off to the serious "front-loading" going on here and I wish to encourage it so that it may flourish.

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread john whelan
But it doesn't address traffic volumes or speed limits. Should we tag speed limits? Cheerio John On 23 January 2018 at 18:38, James wrote: > All that documentation was produced by Cycle Ottawa data devision. So by > cyclists for cyclists > > On Jan 23, 2018 6:30 PM, "john

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread James
All that documentation was produced by Cycle Ottawa data devision. So by cyclists for cyclists On Jan 23, 2018 6:30 PM, "john whelan" wrote: > The SOTM presentation was interesting. Especially the bit about the 5% > who would cycle anyway and these are often the people

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread john whelan
The SOTM presentation was interesting. Especially the bit about the 5% who would cycle anyway and these are often the people who are asked about what should be done to improve things for cyclists. Are we asking the wrong people? I think we need to identify what tags would be useful for routing

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:56 PM john whelan wrote: > Perhaps what we need is a way to tag cycle friendly streets. Typically > I'll use a mixture of minor side streets and paths when using the trike. > > So I'd prefer a routing that used these as much as possible rather

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi John, After talking to many different folks about what their requirements are for a cycling map, it is clear to me that the cycling routing algorithm requires user-configurable tuning parameters.   People have different requirements at different times: from "find a nice path for a 6 year

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
James wrote: There's also documentation that Ottawa is using(not final thats why its not on the wiki) with example pictures: https://github.com/osmottawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md There are differences with respect to US bike pathes Thanks for the link to that page,

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread john whelan
Perhaps what we need is a way to tag cycle friendly streets. Typically I'll use a mixture of minor side streets and paths when using the trike. So I'd prefer a routing that used these as much as possible rather than more major collector roads and you can't always determine from the speed limit

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread James
There's also documentation that Ottawa is using(not final thats why its not on the wiki) with example pictures: https://github.com/osmottawa/OSM-Bike-Ottawa-Tagging-Guide/blob/master/README.md There are differences with respect to US bike pathes On Jan 23, 2018 4:10 PM, "Matthew Darwin"

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi Steve, I share your desire to not duplicate stuff that is already done. There is a strong attempt in the Ottawa community to use standard OSM tags highway:cycleway, cycleway:lane/track and bicycle:*etc.. The bicycle router is very nice (cycle.travel). However, I think an Ottawa bike

[Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-23 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Oops, the bicycle router I wanted to refer to in my previous is http://cycle.travel by Richard Fairhurst (whom I inexplicably confused with Simon Poole). SteveA California ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2018-01-21 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Hello talk-ca: I'm resurrecting a month-old thread (about bicycling) as my initial post here. I'm a California-based (USA) nearly nine-year veteran of OSM. My wiki user page at https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/User:Stevea shares some details of my mapping, including parks and other

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2017-12-23 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi John, The Ottawa cycling group is working on a "Level of Traffic Stress" map which is different than this.  This is because, my understanding, is that the City of Ottawa (for better or worse) uses LTS as their official way of measuring how they're doing on cycling infrastructure.  If you

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2017-12-23 Thread john whelan
I think the OSM article uses a variety of inputs. https://urbandatacyclist.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/visualizing-the-bikeability-of-san-franciscos-roads/ It looks as if some work has been done in Vancouver. It needs thinking through and combining both OpenStreetMap data and other sources.

Re: [Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2017-12-23 Thread James
You mean like we've been doing for kitchissippi ward? http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/84 Other wards need same sort of tagging On Dec 23, 2017 8:24 AM, "john whelan" wrote: > Within weeklyosm there is a article on bikability. I am aware that some > mappers in Ottawa

[Talk-ca] A message aimed more at Ottawa

2017-12-23 Thread john whelan
Within weeklyosm there is a article on bikability. I am aware that some mappers in Ottawa are working with the local cycle groups,could something be done for Ottawa? http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/9805/ Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list