Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

Hi, I want to share some follow up from our team (this is ongoing). * We looked more closely at the issues of naming driveways. We identified a total of 16 changesets that had named driveways in them that we added, and we fixed these if they hadn’t been already. * We have discussed and

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

Yes, if you ask me, changeset comments are (and will stay) the #1 place to discuss mapping issues. If a mapper continues to do questionable edits, the public channels like this mailing list are a good place to go to. To look at recent changeset comments, I use Pascal Neis’s tool. If you

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Yes, I agree with you, and we will keep discussing through the ‘real’ OSM channels. I don’t expect people to sign up for Github. I see it more as a public way for us to track our mapping projects, so that everyone can see what’s going on and respond there if they choose to. I definitely don’t

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For once, I agree with Nakaner. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi Martijn, > > Am 26.04.2017 um 18:22 schrieb Stewart C. Russell: > > I know that Github issues are the industry standard, and the OSM > > comment/discussion mechanisms may seem a

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Hi Martijn, Am 26.04.2017 um 18:22 schrieb Stewart C. Russell: > I know that Github issues are the industry standard, and the OSM > comment/discussion mechanisms may seem a little quaint, but we risk > talking past one another if we splinter the discussion. Just my 2 cent as a non-Canadian. I

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On 2017-04-25 11:55 PM, m...@rtijn.org wrote: > > Let me suggest this: I will take the concerns raised here to our team > and get back to the list before the end of the week with proposed next > steps to fix where possible. We will use Github tickets to track > this. As a process suggestion, may

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Hi all, > On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > On 2017-04-25 12:43 AM, Andrew Lester wrote: >> Okay Telenav, you win. … > > Yes, that must be frustrating. Would hate to lose you as a contributor. Alienating and driving away local contributors is the

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On 2017-04-25 12:43 AM, Andrew Lester wrote: > Okay Telenav, you win. … Yes, that must be frustrating. Would hate to lose you as a contributor. They're also adding futile turn restrictions at the join of one-way on/off ramps, like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7096540 (in a

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ap.org> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 5, 2017 6:00:35 AM *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions James — Thanks. This means that at the very least we need to check on a jurisdiction by jurisdiction basis if these turns are allowed or not. Just as a data point, Google maps won’t

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Victoria, BC, Canada From: m...@rtijn.org To: "James Mast" <rickmastfa...@hotmail.com> Cc: "OSM US" <talk...@openstreetmap.org>, "talk-ca" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 6:00:35 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mappin

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;m...@rtijn.org> > Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 1:18:38 PM > To: James Mast > Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; OSM US > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions > > James -- I could not find any OSC / Mapillary imagery at the location of your > example so I to

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ct: Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions James -- I could not find any OSC / Mapillary imagery at the location of your example so I took a peek at <> google street view. What I see there is that the slip road / ramp was (as of Aug 2016 -- temporarily?) closed to traffic which m

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

eetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_ > car=40.58614%2C-80.04461%3B40.58680%2C-80.04410# > map=19/40.58648/-80.04457 > > ---------- > *From:* Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 7:26:12 PM > *To:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org &

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-80.04410#map=19/40.58648/-80.04457 > > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_car=40.58614%2C-80.04461%3B40.58680%2C-80.04410#map=19/40.58648/-80.04457> > From: Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 7:26:12 PM > To: talk-ca@openstre

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=osrm_car=40.58614%2C-80.04461%3B40.58680%2C-80.04410#map=19/40.58648/-80.04457 From: Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 7:26:12 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions On 2017-03-31

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On 2017-03-31 04:29 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > … the engine > may decide, lacking an explicit restriction, to take the non _link turn > because it's faster even if that is an illegal turn. That is why we need > these restrictions to be explicit in the data. but … but — that's Tagging For The

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gt; community's attention before widespread tagging changes are made, such as >> the creation of tens of thousands of restrictions as detailed by Pierre. It >> would be good to confirm that the team is going to be making useful and >> correct changes before actually g

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>> with the mess they're creating. I'm sure they mean well, but they just >> aren't qualified to be making the nationwide changes they are currently. I >> also strongly recommend that detailed proposals are brought to this >> community's attention before widespread tagging changes

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anges they are currently. I >>> also strongly recommend that detailed proposals are brought to this >>> community's attention before widespread tagging changes are made, such as >>> the creation of tens of thousands of restrictions as detailed by Pierre. It >>> woul

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ng ahead, just in case there's a better > way of tagging/mapping things that the team wasn't aware of. > > As for the right-turn restrictions that I brought up earlier, I've posed > the question of the legality of these right turns to a couple of sources > (one that's pretty off

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of. > > As for the right-turn restrictions that I brought up earlier, I've posed > the question of the legality of these right turns to a couple of sources > (one that's pretty official) and am just waiting on a response. I hope to > have one soon. This will only apply to BC, but it might

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

699#map=18/40.66574/-111.86540  Pierre De : Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> À : Andrew Lester <a-les...@shaw.ca> Cc : talk-ca <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Envoyé le : jeudi 30 mars 2017 11h51 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions Hi Andrew (and let

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t waiting on a response. I hope to have one > soon. This will only apply to BC, but it might help indicate whether the laws > need to be investigated for other provinces as well. > > Andrew > > From: m...@rtijn.org > To: "talk-ca" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> &

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pe to have one soon. This will only apply to BC, but it might help indicate whether the laws need to be investigated for other provinces as well. Andrew From: m...@rtijn.org To: "talk-ca" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:08:26 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-c

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rg> À : talk-ca <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Envoyé le : lundi 27 mars 2017 12h09 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions Hi all, Thanks for your thoughtful commentary. First off, our mapping team’s only objective is to improve the map for us and for everyone. I

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

Hi all, Thanks for your thoughtful commentary. First off, our mapping team’s only objective is to improve the map for us and for everyone. In doing this we always respect the work of local mappers, and follow community conventions. None of our edits are automated. There is a person using

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

Hi Andrew: > … I had already removed some of the > right turn restrictions, but I can add them back in Are the restrictions even necessary? If there are turn lanes present, one should use them. I can see, however, that routing software might send vehicles through the traffic lights if the turn

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t;Andrew > > >From: "Ian Bruseker" <ian.bruse...@gmail.com> >To: "a-lester" <a-les...@shaw.ca> >Cc: "James" <james2...@gmail.com>, "talk-ca" ><talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> >Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:05:53 PM

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quot;a-lester" <a-les...@shaw.ca> Cc: "James" <james2...@gmail.com>, "talk-ca" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 11:05:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions Andrew, I'm sorry to butt in here, I'm normally j

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enstreetmap.org> Envoyé le : Dimanche 26 mars 2017 6h28 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions Yeah, Ian is right if anyone did that in Ontario they'd get pulled over by the cops or flipped off by other drivers. Very unsafe practice to do. A turning lane/ramp is there

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Marshall" <rps...@gmail.com> >> *Cc: *"talk-ca" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:44:53 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions >> >> Yeah no one really wants to do that, except maybe

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tually > degraded it. Something needs to be done about this before things go too > far. I already have a lot of cleanup work ahead of me, and I'd like to > avoid this happening again in the future (at least by Telenav). > > Andrew > Victoria, BC, Canada > > ---

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ery being used to >> help improve the map. >> >> John >> >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Go with the recommended scheme as described on the wiki. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >&

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om: "James" <james2...@gmail.com> To: "John Marshall" <rps...@gmail.com> Cc: "talk-ca" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:44:53 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions Yeah no one really wants to

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gt; *From:* Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] >> *Sent:* Monday, 17 October, 2016 23:53 >> *To:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap >> *Subject:* [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I wanted to give you a h

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described on the wiki. > > Daniel > > > > *From:* Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October, 2016 23:53 > *To:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > *Subject:* [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions > > > > Hi all, > > > > I wan

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Go with the recommended scheme as described on the wiki. Daniel From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2016 23:53 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions Hi all, I wanted to give you a heads up that my colleagues

[Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

Hi all, I wanted to give you a heads up that my colleagues on the Telenav map team are starting work on adding turn restrictions in Toronto, Montréal, and later on also Vancouver, Ottawa and Calgary. We are using OpenStreetView and Mapillary as sources. If you have any questions or concerns,