Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi John, The negativity, or least lack of enthusiasm, is partly due to the complexity of the issue. We'd love to have Highways Agency data as open data but if the data is based upon Ordnance Survey data this becomes a quite tricky. Normally you would have the data holder apply for a Exemption

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
Thanks Phil, I agree that proposed highways should only be added (and tagged as proposed) when they are certain to get built, however, we're not talking about proposed highways here. We are talking about working with the HA to get dates of road completions. Rob p.s. OSMand rendering is a matter

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread John Baker
My simple non-legal logic was we could use the same OS map we are allowed to use for tracing/information. If they based them on that and released maybe that would be ok. They did say they had hundreds of maps of the ongoing works and I hoped it was the case of just selecting the right one.

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread Rob Nickerson
On 5 July 2014 19:20, John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote: snip I'll let them them know about the copyright situation (which I was fully aware from day one was a concern) and there is no real interest from the OSM community for establishing this. John, Please don't tell the Highways

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread Philip Barnes
I am not convinced proposed highways are especially useful in OSM, until construction starts they are just ideas and break the map what we see rule. Proposed highways should certainly not render, for example I drove through Uttoxeter with osmand running and the proposed highways make the map

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread jonathan
I totally agree with Rob, we are tied by the law. The OS need to realise that the data they hold was paid for by us and to restrict its use by Govt is plain wrong. The HA should understand this so they can pressure their Ministers to open things up. http://bigfatfrog67.me On 05/07/2014

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread John Baker
Rob, To be fair when I did post that there had been a lack of interest. I asked could we use the OS maps we currently use and nothing. I asked what people do currently and nothing. You are the first to say that this could/should be ok. I am glad to see that someone is using this approach