[Talk-GB] TfL Cycling Infrastructure Database - conflation

2020-03-26 Thread Martin Lucas-Smith - CycleStreets
Dear all, As you may recall, Transport for London (TfL) released as open data a major new cycling infrastructure dataset. Various people within the OSM UK community met TfL in the run-up to its release, and it was well-received. The OSM wiki has a project page here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Colin Smale
Having both ref and id in the key seems a bit like overkill to me... ref:UK:leedscc:bin ? On 2020-03-26 13:13, Patrick Lake wrote: > Hi, > > The ID is only used for bins, so by the sounds of it we may as well go for > ref:UK:leedscc:bin:id so hopefully we won't have to change it in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Patrick Lake
Hi, The ID is only used for bins, so by the sounds of it we may as well go for ref:UK:leedscc:bin:id so hopefully we won’t have to change it in the future. Then if we end up adding more of LCC’s assets (which we might do in the future, if we can persuade LCC to rely on OSM more) we can use a

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Jez Nicholson
I've seen requests (from the French) for refs to be country namespaced, e.g. ref:UK:leedscc:id or ref:UK:leedscc:bin:id Seems like overkill to start with, but then it does prevent duplication. Is the LLC id a number used for bins only, or for all types of asset? On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:37 AM

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 10:10, Patrick Lake wrote: > I thought of just tagging the LCC ID as lcc:id as I assume it will be > meaningless to anyone not from the council. To avoid conflicts with Liverpool, or Lima, please consider using leedscc:id etc. >Here’s the rest of the tags we planned to

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Colin Smale
ref:lcc=* would probably be best, or even ref:lcc:bins=*. There is an activity going on at present to get these external IDs documented to some extent, in the context of IDs that are used for correlation during data imports and subsequent maintenance. It would fit nicely in this list:

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Ken Kilfedder
I can't see an easy way to do a 'twice per week' collection where the particular days aren't known. Messing about in the validator (https://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/ ) and looking at their examples (bottom of the screen) suggests that complex cases can be expressed as a text

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Patrick Lake
Thanks Tony – for the dataset I’m working on at the moment (which is all litter bins excluding recycling) we don’t have any sort of data on what they’re designated for. The only thing I could do really is use waste=trash for all of them – is it worth including? The other dataset, which is

[Talk-GB] FW: Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Patrick Lake
Thanks for the suggestion Peter, I think ref is probably more appropriate then. I’m fairly new to this as well, so I’m trying to get as much feedback as possible. Patrick From: Peter Neale Reply to: Peter Neale Date: Thursday, 26 March 2020 at 10:40 To: Jez Nicholson ,

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Patrick There is also a key:waste for the kind of waste - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waste Values used are  - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/waste#values Regards TonyS999 On 26/03/2020 10:10, Patrick Lake wrote: Hi Jez, I agree, we are going to encourage them to

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Patrick Lake
Hi Ken, Yes that seems like a better idea, hadn’t seen that, thanks. Most of the data is in the format mon/tue/fri etc so could be changed into the syntax shown on the wiki, but others just say “twice weekly” – can this just be left as-is or not? As most of this data has been entered by hand

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
I commend your efforts, but can I suggest a small change to your proposal? (I am still a bit of a novice on OSM, so please feel free to tell me I am totally wrong) Rather than "lcc:id=1849" should you not use, "id=lcc1849", or perhaps "ref=lcc1849", or even "ref:lcc=1849". I am not sure which

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Ken Kilfedder
Hi Patrick, For the collection_days tag, it might be possible to use the same tagging syntax as the collection_times for post-boxes and recycling bins. It's on the wiki here- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:collection_times You can add days or days with times. ---

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding Leeds Bins to OpenStreetMaps

2020-03-26 Thread Patrick Lake
Hi Jez, I agree, we are going to encourage them to rely on OSM as their main source of data in the future, but whether they’ll use it for essential stuff like planning collection routes I don’t know. We (ODI Leeds), however, will be relying on OSM data, as this is all part of a wider project