Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Aug 14, 2020, 15:53 by for...@david-woolley.me.uk: > On 14/08/2020 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: > >> If signage on the ground is gone or never existed then route relation should >> not be mapped in OSM*. >> > > In the long term, this could make OSM useless for motor traffic as

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread David Woolley
On 14/08/2020 19:14, Simon Still wrote: I’m not sure that’s actually a legal status that changes anything - pedestrians have priority on all shared use paths so not sure that tag would add anything Towpaths are privately paths (currently owned by the Canals and Rivers Trust), so the rules

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 14/08/2020 19:14, Simon Still wrote: > > >> On 14 Aug 2020, at 16:47, Ken Kilfedder > > wrote: >> >> I believe most of the canal towpaths are 'pedestrian priority' too - >> at least there are signs to that effect all over the place.  Well >> worth tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Simon Still
> On 14 Aug 2020, at 16:47, Ken Kilfedder wrote: > > I believe most of the canal towpaths are 'pedestrian priority' too - at least > there are signs to that effect all over the place. Well worth tagging them > to that effect if true. I’m not sure that’s actually a legal status that

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Ken Kilfedder
I believe most of the canal towpaths are 'pedestrian priority' too - at least there are signs to that effect all over the place. Well worth tagging them to that effect if true. --- https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain spiregrain_...@ksglp.org.uk On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, at 1:55 PM, Simon Still

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 14/08/2020 13:55, Simon Still wrote: > See the blog posts that I linked to.   > Plus  >  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database  > > (Our involvement has now ended but TfL should be continuing to use CID > info to improve OSM accuracy)  > > More discussion

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/08/2020 14:53, David Woolley wrote: On 14/08/2020 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: If signage on the ground is gone or never existed then route relation should not be mapped in OSM*. In the long term, this could make OSM useless for motor traffic as there is a general

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread David Woolley
On 14/08/2020 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: If signage on the ground is gone or never existed then route relation should not be mapped in OSM*. In the long term, this could make OSM useless for motor traffic as there is a general policy of decluttering signs. One of the

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Ed Loach
Peter asked (re NCN 51): > What area is this, please? > > NCN 51 comes near me through Milton Keynes, so I have made some adjustments > to the relation in the past (when it was re-routed to avoid going through the > middle > of the intu shopping centre). I live near the Colchester to Harwich

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Simon Still
> On 14 Aug 2020, at 09:31, Robert Skedgell wrote: > > On 13/08/2020 15:41, Simon Still wrote: >> >> In my view there is definitely scope to look at adding more info to >> cycle routes/tracks/cycleways to give more information to routing >> algorithms about the real experience of using them.

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Aug 13, 2020, 16:41 by simon.st...@gmail.com: > > > >> On 13 Aug 2020, at 11:41, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <>> >> robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> >> On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Richard Fairhurst <>> rich...@systemed.net>> > >> wrote: >> >>> ... However, note that the

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Robert Skedgell
On 13/08/2020 15:41, Simon Still wrote: > > In my view there is definitely scope to look at adding more info to > cycle routes/tracks/cycleways to give more information to routing > algorithms about the real experience of using them. > > Would welcome input on what as we’re doing more on this at

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi @Ed, What area is this, please? NCN 51 comes near me through Milton Keynes, so I have made some adjustments to the relation in the past (when it was re-routed to avoid going through the middle of the intu shopping centre).  Regards,Peter On Friday, 14 August 2020, 09:04:51 BST, Ed

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-14 Thread Ed Loach
DaveF replied to: > > So even if Sustrans declassify it, if the signs are still up shouldn’t > > it remain in OSM? with: > OSM should be using the most up to date data available. In this > instance > I think Sustrans saying they've decommissioned a few NCNs & > publishing > an updated map is