Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling, the law and traffic signs

2012-05-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 May 2012, at 01:05, Jason Cunningham wrote: On 15 May 2012 23:32, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: As I am not a regular cyclist I must admit that I don't pay much attention to these signs. So my question is do Local Authorities use the cycle and foot signs (segregated or

Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling, the law and traffic signs

2012-05-16 Thread Richard Mann
I doubt there are any instances in the UK where there's a TRO supporting a No Pedestrians sign on a cycle track (welcome to be proved wrong!). The possibility exists in the legislation, but you'd have to explicitly sign it (the white-bike-on-blue-circle does not of itself exclude pedestrians in

Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling, the law and traffic signs

2012-05-16 Thread Andy Allan
On 16 May 2012 01:05, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com wrote: Unless it's been recently changed. the Cycle Only sign could never prohibit 'pedestrian access' because use of the sign is defined by the Department for Transports Traffic Signs Manual (chapter 3) [1]. The DFT

[Talk-GB] Cycling, the law and traffic signs

2012-05-16 Thread Ralph Smyth
I think the confusion here relates to a failure to differentiate criminal law - in this case failing to comply with a traffic sign - and civil law - trespass - in this case not being within the class(es) of users permitted on a particular section of highway. It's not a criminal offence to cycle

[Talk-GB] Cycling, the law and traffic signs

2012-05-15 Thread rob . j . nickerson
Hi, On the UK tagging guidelines consultation page [1] both Andrew C and Richard M pointed out that the blue sign with a bicycle on it [2] does _not_ imply foot=no. As I had copied this tag over from the original guidelines page I would like to seek advice before removing the foot=no

Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling, the law and traffic signs

2012-05-15 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 15 May 2012 23:32, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: As I am not a regular cyclist I must admit that I don't pay much attention to these signs. So my question is do Local Authorities use the cycle and foot signs (segregated or otherwise) and reserve the cycle sign for cases where traffic