Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-16 Thread Tom Chance
On 16 September 2010 00:13, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote: On 15 Sep 2010, at 23:21, Robert Scott wrote: Well, the feedback functionality itself is not hugely non-straightforward (?) - the difficult bit is it means I have to get in to the sticky world of authentication. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Ed Avis
Robert Scott li...@... writes: I'd also like to ask about the two postcode fields. What do 'supplied postcode' and 'nearest postcode' mean? The data is shown directly as supplied by the source. You'd have to ask them. OK. I went to see which of the two is used in the journey planner links on

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Tom Chance
On 14 September 2010 22:00, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I and others have been busy adding or naming allotments from this data. Thanks! Now for the inevitable follow-up question: how do we report errors back to the GLA, and will they pass them on to the local authorities? The data

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread kevin
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Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Jason Cunningham
I'm worried we're assuming that the GLA have supplied us with a definitive source of names. When I had a first quick look at the names provided I was worried they were mainly based around adjacent road names when many allotments have complex names. I can find a couple where the allotments society

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Tom Chance
I have ignored the local authority supplied name where the sign on the ground was different. Given that some of these may no longer exist, even, we should be making surveys of any that are missing and any existing with conflicting names. Tom On 15 Sep 2010 11:40, Jason Cunningham

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Will Abson
Great tool! I've checked out my local area (Ealing) and there's a few disagreements marked for several allotments which are listed as 'Private Site' in the GLA data. Effectively there is no name present in the data for those sites, so perhaps this scenario could be catered for in the algorithm,

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Ed Avis
Will Abson will.ab...@... writes: It also raises the question of the owner/operator of allotment sites in the data. The wiki suggests operator=* for allotments, which would seem to be equivalent to the 'Organisation' field in the data, although this is not consistently recorded and is missing for

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Robert Scott
On Wednesday 15 September 2010, Will Abson wrote: Great tool! I've checked out my local area (Ealing) and there's a few disagreements marked for several allotments which are listed as 'Private Site' in the GLA data. Effectively there is no name present in the data for those sites, so perhaps

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-15 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 15 Sep 2010, at 23:21, Robert Scott wrote: On Wednesday 15 September 2010, Will Abson wrote: Great tool! I've checked out my local area (Ealing) and there's a few disagreements marked for several allotments which are listed as 'Private Site' in the GLA data. Effectively there is no name

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-14 Thread Ed Avis
Robert Scott li...@... writes: Musical allotments now ignores allotment(s). Thanks. There are some odd cases where the local authority's name ends in '(streetmap)'. Could that also be ignored? -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-14 Thread Ed Avis
I and others have been busy adding or naming allotments from this data. Thanks! Now for the inevitable follow-up question: how do we report errors back to the GLA, and will they pass them on to the local authorities? There are some cases (particularly in Barnet it seems) where the lat/lon for

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-14 Thread Ed Avis
I'd also like to ask about the two postcode fields. What do 'supplied postcode' and 'nearest postcode' mean? Perhaps the first one is for the allotment itself and the second is for a nearby street? If so, some entries in the data are clearly bogus: # Name: Hendon Grove # Borough Ref: 27 #

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-14 Thread Ed Avis
Ed Avis e...@... writes: There are some odd cases where the local authority's name ends in '(streetmap)'. Could that also be ignored? In fact any parenthesized stuff could be stripped, for example 'Gladstone Park Gardens (off Broadfield Close)' in the GLA list becomes just 'Gladstone Park

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-13 Thread Ed Avis
Robert Scott li...@... writes: After a request from Tom Chance I've created a strange little fork of musical chairs based on the allotment point data released by the London datastore (http://data.london.gov.uk/datastore/package/allotment-locations).

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-13 Thread Robert Scott
On Monday 13 September 2010, Ed Avis wrote: Neat! But how should the name of an allotment be tagged? In the data set they are often called after a street, as 'Seymour Road'. But in OSM it seems a bit daft to tag name=Seymour Road for any object that isn't the road itself. 'Seymour Road

Re: [Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-13 Thread Tom Chance
On 13 September 2010 17:34, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Yes, using the name from the GLA sounds like a good idea, but with 'allotments' appended if it wasn't there already. That has been my approach. Do you feel the GLA data is high-quality enough to make it worth adding names to

[Talk-GB] Datastore musical allotments

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Scott
Hi, After a request from Tom Chance I've created a strange little fork of musical chairs based on the allotment point data released by the London datastore ( http://data.london.gov.uk/datastore/package/allotment-locations ). The algorithm isn't really designed for this sort of matching ( it's