Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/8 Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk: On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Jeffrey Martindogs...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we want different policies for different areas and different kinds of data. For example once all the roads are mapped we freeze the roads, but we allow free changing

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-08 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Jeffrey Martindogs...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we want different policies for different areas and different kinds of data. For example once all the roads are mapped we freeze the roads, but we allow free changing of street names until they reach a freeze point.

[Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread David Earl
This time he's invented a fictitious railway line into Great Yarmouth This needs reverting: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2063848 added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=GB_revert_request_log David ___ Talk-GB mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Richard Mann
The only thing that ever worked with graffiti on the railway was painting it over in all the obvious places. I'm afraid we just have to find a way to undo or redo his works. In our context, obvious is anything big, and anything new. Richard ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Nick Barnes
Tom Hughes wrote: Well it will have to go to the WG for that. They will doubtless start by sending him a direct email. Is it just me who thinks that having a wiki which is open to everybody and doesn't have any controls over who can do what is utterly ludicrous? Yes, I'm a trusting soul, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nick Barnes wrote: Is it just me who thinks that having a wiki which is open to everybody and doesn't have any controls over who can do what is utterly ludicrous? No, millions of Wikipedia contributors think it is a good thing (and they even allow edits from people without an account) ;-)

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Nick Barnes
Frederik Ramm wrote: No, millions of Wikipedia contributors think it is a good thing (and they even allow edits from people without an account) ;-) Point taken, but Wikipedia isn't trying to position itself as a viable and reliable alternative for a mission critical commercial solution (I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Nick Barnesn...@thebarnesfamily.eu wrote: To my mind, nobody ought to be able to edit live map data unless: No, no, no - completely wrong approach. Think using Dettol continuously to keep your house clean - most people now realise that healthy immune systems come

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Christopher Osborne
I'd like to hear from the DWG on how they handle the edit wars in Cyprus. Must be some kind of precedent? Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nick Barnes wrote: Point taken, but Wikipedia isn't trying to position itself as a viable and reliable alternative for a mission critical commercial solution (I'm thinking about mapping for SatNav devices here). I don't think we should either, because this leads to more control and less

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Christopher Osbornechris.gai...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to hear from the DWG on how they handle the edit wars in Cyprus. Must be some kind of precedent? Handled, past tense, I believe. I've heard that it's now resolved. Anyway, that was a dispute, not

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Nick Barnes wrote: Point taken, but Wikipedia isn't trying to position itself as a viable and reliable alternative for a mission critical commercial solution (I'm thinking about mapping for SatNav devices here). I

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Kevin Peat
these data may contain errors, you can use it at your own risk, but you can't sue us. This whole wikipedia comparison seems bogus to me. Kids use wikipedia to do their homework, people don't trust their lives to it like they do with maps every day of the week. I've used an OS map many times

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Richard Mann
Maybe stopping people moving ways (or deleting or moving individual points in ways by more than a few metres) for the first months. I don't think I've ever done the former (except in error), and it took me a while to realise that Yahoo needed moving (using the spacebar), rather than the data, with

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Russ
Frederik Ramm wrote: Oh yeah, and let's also get their addresses and hang them! I am amazed at how much hostility this Liam123 is able to provoke. I'm not. I think it's similar to the way people react to virus writers after their computer is infected. I've heard plenty of people suggest that

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Maybe we want different policies for different areas and different kinds of data. For example once all the roads are mapped we freeze the roads, but we allow free changing of street names until they reach a freeze point. Here in Korea I just want data and the more the better. In downtown London