Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-21 Thread Steven Hirschorn
I've uploaded the geojson file (along with the source data and other files and scripts) here: https://github.com/milh0use/charging_points/blob/master/sl_osm.geojson I've emailed Source London asking about the way they generated the geo co-ordinates, but in the meantime while I wait for their

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Plausible deniability is not the reason. Either (1) it is clear that we can do that without copyright and copyright like issues and then we can freely ignore whatever data provider likes it or not (2) it is not ok to do this in OSM Reason for not creating such notes automatically is for

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Steven Hirschorn
So to address the main issues so far: Could the data be "tainted" by being derived from a copyrighted map: - Is it just Google that is the risk here? If SourceLondon used Ordnance Survey maps to determine the node locations, would there not be a similar issue? So the only circumstance where the

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
18 Aug 2020, 16:28 by aamac...@gmail.com: > > > On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 09:09, Rob Nickerson <> rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> For me, once licencing issues have been fully resolved, it comes down to >> accuracy of data.  >> >> For example the TfL cycle data is great as it has

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Alan Mackie
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 09:09, Rob Nickerson wrote: > For me, once licencing issues have been fully resolved, it comes down to > accuracy of data. > > For example the TfL cycle data is great as it has been collected by ground > survey and with two photos of everything. Some other third party data

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Cj Malone
On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 12:18 +0100, Steven Hirschorn wrote: > Are we allowed to put the points on a non-OSM map to ask local > mappers to survey? Legally I think it's a bit ambiguous, but current practice is to do exactly that. See tools like [1] where most of the data isn't compatible with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Aug 18, 2020, 13:18 by steven.hirsch...@gmail.com: > And what would the conflation exercise be? Are we allowed to put the > points on a non-OSM map to ask local mappers to survey? > It would be better to put location on OSM map and ask mappers to survey there. As long as they survey and enter

[Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Steven Hirschorn
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 12:01, wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:53:00 +0100 > From: Jez Nicholson > To: David Woolley > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It is possible that the initial data from SourceLondon is licence tainted > as they manually created

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Jez Nicholson
Hi Steven, Nice work getting hold of SourceLondon, and for getting it on the wiki. It is possible that the initial data from SourceLondon is licence tainted as they manually created the points by using Google Maps. This would block a straight import, but might allow for a conflation exercise.

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread David Woolley
On 18/08/2020 00:11, Steven Hirschorn wrote: I'm hoping to import a dataset of EV vehicle charging points in London. I've created a wiki page here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SourceLondon There was a lot of discussion about importing EV charging station data recently, so the first

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Rob Nickerson
For me, once licencing issues have been fully resolved, it comes down to accuracy of data. For example the TfL cycle data is great as it has been collected by ground survey and with two photos of everything. Some other third party data has been less accurate. At this point it becomes tricky as

[Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-17 Thread Steven Hirschorn
Hi All, I'm hoping to import a dataset of EV vehicle charging points in London. I've created a wiki page here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SourceLondon It's the first time I'll have tried an import. I have used JOSM for a long time, and know a bit of Python, and already have permission